Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila (Harassment Policy)

2015-02-02 Thread Hong, Yena
Uhm, was JurgenNL steward? I thought TBloemink was, not JurgenNL. -Yena Hong (Revi) [[User:-revi]] -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 2. 2. 오후 11:49에 Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com님이 작성: I wrote an open letter to Lila because I saw Philippe Beaudette saying he was taking advice from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila (Harassment Policy)

2015-02-02 Thread Nathan
I wasted the few minutes necessary to read Trillium's blog post, and I don't recommend anyone else make that same mistake. He's taken a few incidents in a 7 year period, presented them utterly without the totally necessary context, and ignored any evidence that might make it clear how silly and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila (Harassment Policy)

2015-02-02 Thread Trillium Corsage
One is a steward the other is an administrator, I may have reversed their roles, but they are definitely the two that stalked Moiramoira. Thanks for the notification, I'll doublecheck which is which and see about correcting that. Trillium Corsage 02.02.2015, 14:55, Hong, Yena

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila (Harassment Policy)

2015-02-02 Thread Trillium Corsage
Nathan, there is no context that could possibly justify those evidenced incidents of harassment and stalking. There is no excuse. The information is out there for anyone who wants to read about them, but it's wrong to attempt to rationalize them in a sea of details and that's why I didn't do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila (Harassment Policy)

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Farmbrough
It is true that our Arbitrators have not always behaved as we would wish, and the cases that Trillium brings are are especially egregious, those familiar with the the Arbcom leaks or indeed who have followed the actions of the Committee, or dealt with individual Arbitrators on the English

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila (Harassment Policy)

2015-02-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
If the WMF is consulting any specific entity of an individual Wikimedia project out of 800 for a crosswiki matter, that's ridiculous, period. I don't see why bother looking into the specific merits of the entity in question, or the allegations about them. Nemo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila (Harassment Policy)

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Because the Arbitration Committee does have experience dealing with harassment. Not many projects have such a body dedicated to dealing with conflict. You are of course right that a general consultation should be made, and I'm sure if there are other bodies you can point to the WMF would love to