Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment
option in the way I said.

In response to another off list query, I should point out that
unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated 
recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting
recognition.

Regards,
On 5 Dec 2013 20:27, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying
  registration right away. If you click Other Payment Options you can
  select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)
 
  Chris


 For those wanting to attend but needing scholarships to cover the event,
 how do we bypass the 50 pound registration window?  Also, WM-UK
 scholarships will cover above the per diem rate that the WMF limits people
 to correct? :/

 Sincerely,
 Laura Hale

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Laura Hale
Hi Chris,

If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie Group
has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm
recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.

What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking
about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to
attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the
per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high
registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
incurred by individuals but by their organizations.

As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears
to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than We talked down
the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for this
conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs.
 The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is
Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are by
and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of
funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The people
who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and
you're off to charge them large amounts.

I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people to
incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for
two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in
Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the
thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.

What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less
developed chapters?  Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds,
following WMF's best practices for grant funding...  These are off the
table?  What else is there?

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:

 Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment
 option in the way I said.

 In response to another off list query, I should point out that
 unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated 
 recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting
 recognition.





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Laura,

Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this
event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support as
much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different
stages of development.

I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a
broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as
many people as possible.

It would certainly be great if there was more support available for
organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know,
no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development needs
of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet them.
Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.

Regards,

Chris
Hi Chris,

If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie Group
has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm
recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.

What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking
about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to
attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the
per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high
registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
incurred by individuals but by their organizations.

As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears
to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than We talked down
the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for this
conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs.
 The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is
Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are by
and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of
funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The people
who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and
you're off to charge them large amounts.

I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people to
incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for
two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in
Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the
thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.

What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less
developed chapters?  Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds,
following WMF's best practices for grant funding...  These are off the
table?  What else is there?

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:

 Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment
 option in the way I said.

 In response to another off list query, I should point out that
 unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated 
 recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting
 recognition.





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi all,

As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short
feedback about the program.

I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining this,
defining that sessions. And they are extremely long.

Not a word about financial planning, not a word about community management
(as chapter's community) nothing about volunteer recruitement, not a word
about negotiating (as negotiating skills, including convincing techniques
and other related knowledge) cost management (cost cutting, replanning),
managerial approaches and attitudes (managerial skills and styles, best
practices), etc. etc. The line is long.

I see no practical skills discussed, except if the aim is to make us able
to discuss chapter-related __theoretical__ things in a much deeper way than
before. Ever. Nice to have clear visions for the future though but what
this event covers is about 20% of what is called management altough I had
to admit, it is the most interesting 20%. For me too.

Cheers,
Balazs

*Balazs Viczian*
Executive Vice President
*Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*

Tel: +36 70 633 6372
Mail: balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu
Web: www.wikimedia.hu  Blog: Magyar Wikipédia Magazinhttp://huwiki.blogspot.hu
Facebook: Magyar Wikipédia https://www.facebook.com/hu.wikipedia


2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com

 Hi Laura,

 Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this
 event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support as
 much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different
 stages of development.

 I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a
 broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as
 many people as possible.

 It would certainly be great if there was more support available for
 organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know,
 no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development needs
 of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet them.
 Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.

 Regards,

 Chris
 Hi Chris,

 If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
 organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie Group
 has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm
 recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.

 What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking
 about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
 Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to
 attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the
 per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
 expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high
 registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
 incurred by individuals but by their organizations.

 As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
 responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears
 to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than We talked down
 the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
 selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for this
 conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs.
  The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is
 Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are by
 and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of
 funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The people
 who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and
 you're off to charge them large amounts.

 I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
 funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people to
 incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for
 two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in
 Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the
 thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.

 What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less
 developed chapters?  Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds,
 following WMF's best practices for grant funding...  These are off the
 table?  What else is there?

 Sincerely,
 Laura Hale

 On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:

  Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment
  option in the way I said.
 
  In response to another off list query, I should point out that
  unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated 
  recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting
  recognition.
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Balazs! All 20 spaces on the workshop are now taken. :)


On 6 Dec 2013 18:48, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

 Hi all,

 As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short
 feedback about the program.

 I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining this,
 defining that sessions. And they are extremely long.

 Not a word about financial planning, not a word about community management
 (as chapter's community) nothing about volunteer recruitement, not a word
 about negotiating (as negotiating skills, including convincing techniques
 and other related knowledge) cost management (cost cutting, replanning),
 managerial approaches and attitudes (managerial skills and styles, best
 practices), etc. etc. The line is long.

 I see no practical skills discussed, except if the aim is to make us able
 to discuss chapter-related __theoretical__ things in a much deeper way than
 before. Ever. Nice to have clear visions for the future though but what
 this event covers is about 20% of what is called management altough I had
 to admit, it is the most interesting 20%. For me too.

 Cheers,
 Balazs

 *Balazs Viczian*
 Executive Vice President
 *Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*

 Tel: +36 70 633 6372
 Mail: balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu
 Web: www.wikimedia.hu  Blog: Magyar Wikipédia Magazin
 http://huwiki.blogspot.hu
 Facebook: Magyar Wikipédia https://www.facebook.com/hu.wikipedia


 2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com

  Hi Laura,
 
  Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this
  event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support
 as
  much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different
  stages of development.
 
  I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a
  broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as
  many people as possible.
 
  It would certainly be great if there was more support available for
  organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know,
  no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development
 needs
  of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet
 them.
  Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.
 
  Regards,
 
  Chris
  Hi Chris,
 
  If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
  organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie
 Group
  has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm
  recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
 
  What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking
  about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
  Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to
  attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above
 the
  per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
  expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the
 high
  registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
  incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
 
  As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
  responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach
 appears
  to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than We talked down
  the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
  selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for this
  conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive
 costs.
   The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is
  Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are by
  and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources
 of
  funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The people
  who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and
  you're off to charge them large amounts.
 
  I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
  funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people
 to
  incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400
 for
  two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close
 in
  Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the
  thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.
 
  What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less
  developed chapters?  Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds,
  following WMF's best practices for grant funding...  These are off the
  table?  What else is there?
 
  Sincerely,
  Laura Hale
 
  On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:
 
   Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other
 payment
   option in the way I said.
  
   In response to another 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Balázs Viczián
Well, this answer should be amongst the how not examples, worthy having
an own topic itself.

Another topic not related to the event but highly relevant for the answer
from Chris: freebies. Obvious issue never spoken of.

This event can be held anywhere in the world as long as it is free for
the participants (no own money spent), you'll always have full house. You
don't really need anything else than covering expenses. No problem with
last minute programming, declined WMF funding or whatever. Expenses
covered? They'll be there.

Cheers,
Balazs

2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com

 Thanks Balazs! All 20 spaces on the workshop are now taken. :)


 On 6 Dec 2013 18:48, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short
  feedback about the program.
 
  I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining
 this,
  defining that sessions. And they are extremely long.
 
  Not a word about financial planning, not a word about community
 management
  (as chapter's community) nothing about volunteer recruitement, not a
 word
  about negotiating (as negotiating skills, including convincing techniques
  and other related knowledge) cost management (cost cutting, replanning),
  managerial approaches and attitudes (managerial skills and styles, best
  practices), etc. etc. The line is long.
 
  I see no practical skills discussed, except if the aim is to make us able
  to discuss chapter-related __theoretical__ things in a much deeper way
 than
  before. Ever. Nice to have clear visions for the future though but what
  this event covers is about 20% of what is called management altough I
 had
  to admit, it is the most interesting 20%. For me too.
 
  Cheers,
  Balazs
 
  *Balazs Viczian*
  Executive Vice President
  *Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*
 
  Tel: +36 70 633 6372
  Mail: balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu
  Web: www.wikimedia.hu  Blog: Magyar Wikipédia Magazin
  http://huwiki.blogspot.hu
  Facebook: Magyar Wikipédia https://www.facebook.com/hu.wikipedia
 
 
  2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
 
   Hi Laura,
  
   Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from
 this
   event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support
  as
   much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at
 different
   stages of development.
  
   I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a
   broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund
 as
   many people as possible.
  
   It would certainly be great if there was more support available for
   organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know,
   no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development
  needs
   of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet
  them.
   Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.
  
   Regards,
  
   Chris
   Hi Chris,
  
   If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
   organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie
  Group
   has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an
 aff-comm
   recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
  
   What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference,
 talking
   about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
   Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization
 to
   attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above
  the
   per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
   expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the
  high
   registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
   incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
  
   As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
   responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach
  appears
   to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than We talked
 down
   the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
   selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for
 this
   conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive
  costs.
The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it
 is
   Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are
 by
   and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent
 sources
  of
   funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The
 people
   who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money...
 and
   you're off to charge them large amounts.
  
   I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
   funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people
  to
   incur expenses over 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Keating
Correcting link:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-tickets-8850487045

*cough*


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 ***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in
 London, 1-2 March 2014.***

 Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation?
 Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the
 Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which
 will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.

 The programme and venue details for the workshop is here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014

 You can register for the event here:
 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483

 Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members
 but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of
 it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost
 £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.

 Some frequently asked questions:

 * Are there scholarships?
 Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please
 fill in the Will you require a scholarship to attend? box on the form
 with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of
 scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration,
 food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event
 out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a
 scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.

 * What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
 If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you
 leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your
 place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a
 visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).

 * This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
 This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more
 similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or
 in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is
 important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the
 Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.

 Regards,

 Chris
 on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-05 Thread Christophe Henner
Hey Chris,

Hope you're fine.

The eventbrite link isn't working properly from France :(

Thanks for your help

Best,
--
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On 5 December 2013 18:59, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:
 ***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in
 London, 1-2 March 2014.***

 Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation?
 Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the
 Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which
 will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.

 The programme and venue details for the workshop is here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014

 You can register for the event here:
 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483

 Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members
 but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of
 it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost
 £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.

 Some frequently asked questions:

 * Are there scholarships?
 Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please
 fill in the Will you require a scholarship to attend? box on the form
 with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of
 scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration,
 food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event
 out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a
 scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.

 * What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
 If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you
 leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your
 place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a
 visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).

 * This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
 This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more
 similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or
 in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is
 important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the
 Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.

 Regards,

 Chris
 on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Keating
Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying
registration right away. If you click Other Payment Options you can
select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)

Chris


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Correcting link:
 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-tickets-8850487045

 *cough*


 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Keating 
 chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 ***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in
 London, 1-2 March 2014.***

 Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation?
 Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the
 Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which
 will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.

 The programme and venue details for the workshop is here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014

 You can register for the event here:
 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483

 Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board
 members but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most
 out of it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70
 or cost £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.

 Some frequently asked questions:

 * Are there scholarships?
 Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs,
 please fill in the Will you require a scholarship to attend? box on the
 form with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a
 number of scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover
 registration, food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for
 this event out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone
 requesting a scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.

 * What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
 If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if
 you leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your
 place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a
 visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).

 * This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
 This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more
 similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or
 in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is
 important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the
 Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.

 Regards,

 Chris
 on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-05 Thread Laura Hale
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying
 registration right away. If you click Other Payment Options you can
 select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)

 Chris


For those wanting to attend but needing scholarships to cover the event,
how do we bypass the 50 pound registration window?  Also, WM-UK
scholarships will cover above the per diem rate that the WMF limits people
to correct? :/

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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