Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some interesting thing about our friend User:Shujenchang

2013-05-18 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi Addis,

I'm not sure what you try to do with this e-mail, because this behavior
seems to be zh wiki only and not a foundation wide problem. This seems to
be like trowing dirt.

Secondly you say that the user stole the computer from a user and then
used a closed browser to vandalize Wikipedia. This is because the user says
his computer was stolen. But there is no way in earth to proof that this
was the case. (NO checkuser will be able to confirm that the user you are
blaming used somebody elses his computer to edit as a IP number).

As last you say that he / she stole the account of the ex boyfriend and
used it to vandalize Wikipedia. Why do you think it was her? Its good
possible that the ex used his account in her house or WiFi or a place where
they both come oftenly and then vandalize Wikipedia. Did a CU confirmed
that it was her computer?

The fact that the blocking user is also a CU it would be very easy to frame
somebody like this. And you don't really give any proof. So please be
careful before you destroy people's names.




On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:30 PM, AddisWang addiswan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone

 There may be no reason for me to post a Blocking Notification to the mail
 list, but this thing will absolutely  let you feel shocked which I think
 it's necessary to reveal what kind of people working with us, and even
 making important decision.

 User:Shujenchang, as know as User:ZH979433, who announced to quit the
 Chinese Wikipedia after local CheckUsers were elected. But coincidentally,
 the person who was strongly against the the ZHWP has local CheckUser, was
 checked and blocked for his disgusting and abominable behavior.

 User:Shujenchang stole his ex-boyfriend's Wikipedia account and vandalize
 Wikipedia because of the broken relationship. By considering his
 announcement that forever quit ZHWP, User:BenMQ only blocked him in one
 month to warning. People will lose control in sometimes, it might be too
 unfriendly if presuming his moral quality only by this. When we thought
 User: Shujenchang will leave ZHWP and things turn to good, another crazy
 thing happened.

 User:Shujenchang post personal attacks on his ex-boyfriend by using the
 account of User:Ltdccba when Ltdccba went to the restroom and left his
 laptop. By using others' trust, User:Shujenchang framed the person who took
 him as friend. Was checked twice, I finally understand why User:Shujenchang
 tried to stop the election of local CheckUser.

 His account was blocked right now by User:BenMQ. But this friend still
 try to do something on Wikimedia. Please be aware of this thing, who knows
 who is next EX or next Ltdccba.

 The first Blocking Notification:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shujenchang#Blocking_Notification_on_ZHWP
 Meta User Page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shujenchang
 Voting Members of the Wikimania 2014 Jury:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014_jury
 Blocking information on zhwp:
 http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E5%B0%81%E7%A6%81%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7/ZH979433
 User:Ltdccba's explanation:
 https://zh.wikipedia.org/?oldid=26580664#.E8.AF.B7.E4.B8.8D.E8.A6.81.E4.BB.BF.E7.85.A7IP.E7.94.A8.E6.88.B7.E7.AD.BE.E5.90.8D

 Sorry if disturbing!

 Best Wishes!

 Addis Wang
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some interesting thing about our friend User:Shujenchang

2013-05-18 Thread Deryck Chan
Addis:
从我来看,事情大概已经解决了,没必要小题大做。家丑不出外扬。在一个这么公开的环境里面谈论中文维基百科的小事,实在不适合。
翘仔

On 18 May 2013 19:30, AddisWang addiswan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone

 There may be no reason for me to post a Blocking Notification to the mail
 list, but this thing will absolutely  let you feel shocked which I think
 it's necessary to reveal what kind of people working with us, and even
 making important decision.

 User:Shujenchang, as know as User:ZH979433, who announced to quit the
 Chinese Wikipedia after local CheckUsers were elected. But coincidentally,
 the person who was strongly against the the ZHWP has local CheckUser, was
 checked and blocked for his disgusting and abominable behavior.

 User:Shujenchang stole his ex-boyfriend's Wikipedia account and vandalize
 Wikipedia because of the broken relationship. By considering his
 announcement that forever quit ZHWP, User:BenMQ only blocked him in one
 month to warning. People will lose control in sometimes, it might be too
 unfriendly if presuming his moral quality only by this. When we thought
 User: Shujenchang will leave ZHWP and things turn to good, another crazy
 thing happened.

 User:Shujenchang post personal attacks on his ex-boyfriend by using the
 account of User:Ltdccba when Ltdccba went to the restroom and left his
 laptop. By using others' trust, User:Shujenchang framed the person who took
 him as friend. Was checked twice, I finally understand why User:Shujenchang
 tried to stop the election of local CheckUser.

 His account was blocked right now by User:BenMQ. But this friend still
 try to do something on Wikimedia. Please be aware of this thing, who knows
 who is next EX or next Ltdccba.

 The first Blocking Notification:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shujenchang#Blocking_Notification_on_ZHWP
 Meta User Page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shujenchang
 Voting Members of the Wikimania 2014 Jury:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014_jury
 Blocking information on zhwp:
 http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E5%B0%81%E7%A6%81%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7/ZH979433
 User:Ltdccba's explanation:
 https://zh.wikipedia.org/?oldid=26580664#.E8.AF.B7.E4.B8.8D.E8.A6.81.E4.BB.BF.E7.85.A7IP.E7.94.A8.E6.88.B7.E7.AD.BE.E5.90.8D

 Sorry if disturbing!

 Best Wishes!

 Addis Wang
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some interesting thing about our friend User:Shujenchang

2013-05-18 Thread AddisWang
Hi Huib

Thanks for your remind at first!

I understand, but that's not how things should be concluded. This guy from zh 
wiki, this thing happened in zh wiki, so it's your zh wiki stuff. I'm not 
talking about the problem of a project or some projects or foundation wide 
problem. I'm taking about a person.

It seems I never using the word stole in computer things. It's might be my 
limited writing skills let you misunderstand, but please be careful. And he 
posted personal attacks not the vandalism. And I believe User:Shujenchang 
is a male.

Stealing the account? He admitted. 

Addis

在 2013-5-19,上午2:56,Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com 写道:

 Hi Addis,
 
 I'm not sure what you try to do with this e-mail, because this behavior
 seems to be zh wiki only and not a foundation wide problem. This seems to
 be like trowing dirt.
 
 Secondly you say that the user stole the computer from a user and then
 used a closed browser to vandalize Wikipedia. This is because the user says
 his computer was stolen. But there is no way in earth to proof that this
 was the case. (NO checkuser will be able to confirm that the user you are
 blaming used somebody elses his computer to edit as a IP number).
 
 As last you say that he / she stole the account of the ex boyfriend and
 used it to vandalize Wikipedia. Why do you think it was her? Its good
 possible that the ex used his account in her house or WiFi or a place where
 they both come oftenly and then vandalize Wikipedia. Did a CU confirmed
 that it was her computer?
 
 The fact that the blocking user is also a CU it would be very easy to frame
 somebody like this. And you don't really give any proof. So please be
 careful before you destroy people's names.
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:30 PM, AddisWang addiswan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 There may be no reason for me to post a Blocking Notification to the mail
 list, but this thing will absolutely  let you feel shocked which I think
 it's necessary to reveal what kind of people working with us, and even
 making important decision.
 
 User:Shujenchang, as know as User:ZH979433, who announced to quit the
 Chinese Wikipedia after local CheckUsers were elected. But coincidentally,
 the person who was strongly against the the ZHWP has local CheckUser, was
 checked and blocked for his disgusting and abominable behavior.
 
 User:Shujenchang stole his ex-boyfriend's Wikipedia account and vandalize
 Wikipedia because of the broken relationship. By considering his
 announcement that forever quit ZHWP, User:BenMQ only blocked him in one
 month to warning. People will lose control in sometimes, it might be too
 unfriendly if presuming his moral quality only by this. When we thought
 User: Shujenchang will leave ZHWP and things turn to good, another crazy
 thing happened.
 
 User:Shujenchang post personal attacks on his ex-boyfriend by using the
 account of User:Ltdccba when Ltdccba went to the restroom and left his
 laptop. By using others' trust, User:Shujenchang framed the person who took
 him as friend. Was checked twice, I finally understand why User:Shujenchang
 tried to stop the election of local CheckUser.
 
 His account was blocked right now by User:BenMQ. But this friend still
 try to do something on Wikimedia. Please be aware of this thing, who knows
 who is next EX or next Ltdccba.
 
 The first Blocking Notification:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shujenchang#Blocking_Notification_on_ZHWP
 Meta User Page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shujenchang
 Voting Members of the Wikimania 2014 Jury:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014_jury
 Blocking information on zhwp:
 http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E5%B0%81%E7%A6%81%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7/ZH979433
 User:Ltdccba's explanation:
 https://zh.wikipedia.org/?oldid=26580664#.E8.AF.B7.E4.B8.8D.E8.A6.81.E4.BB.BF.E7.85.A7IP.E7.94.A8.E6.88.B7.E7.AD.BE.E5.90.8D
 
 Sorry if disturbing!
 
 Best Wishes!
 
 Addis Wang
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some interesting thing about our friend User:Shujenchang

2013-05-18 Thread AddisWang
Deryck

仅觉事虽源于中文维基,但实为其个人问题,而此人长期活跃在其他项目,恐不利。在下只顾借此提醒他人,未顾及中文维基之影响,做法的确欠妥。感谢提醒,之后会慎重。

Addis
在 2013-5-19,上午3:16,Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk 写道:

 Addis:
 从我来看,事情大概已经解决了,没必要小题大做。家丑不出外扬。在一个这么公开的环境里面谈论中文维基百科的小事,实在不适合。
 翘仔
 
 On 18 May 2013 19:30, AddisWang addiswan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 There may be no reason for me to post a Blocking Notification to the mail
 list, but this thing will absolutely  let you feel shocked which I think
 it's necessary to reveal what kind of people working with us, and even
 making important decision.
 
 User:Shujenchang, as know as User:ZH979433, who announced to quit the
 Chinese Wikipedia after local CheckUsers were elected. But coincidentally,
 the person who was strongly against the the ZHWP has local CheckUser, was
 checked and blocked for his disgusting and abominable behavior.
 
 User:Shujenchang stole his ex-boyfriend's Wikipedia account and vandalize
 Wikipedia because of the broken relationship. By considering his
 announcement that forever quit ZHWP, User:BenMQ only blocked him in one
 month to warning. People will lose control in sometimes, it might be too
 unfriendly if presuming his moral quality only by this. When we thought
 User: Shujenchang will leave ZHWP and things turn to good, another crazy
 thing happened.
 
 User:Shujenchang post personal attacks on his ex-boyfriend by using the
 account of User:Ltdccba when Ltdccba went to the restroom and left his
 laptop. By using others' trust, User:Shujenchang framed the person who took
 him as friend. Was checked twice, I finally understand why User:Shujenchang
 tried to stop the election of local CheckUser.
 
 His account was blocked right now by User:BenMQ. But this friend still
 try to do something on Wikimedia. Please be aware of this thing, who knows
 who is next EX or next Ltdccba.
 
 The first Blocking Notification:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shujenchang#Blocking_Notification_on_ZHWP
 Meta User Page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shujenchang
 Voting Members of the Wikimania 2014 Jury:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014_jury
 Blocking information on zhwp:
 http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E5%B0%81%E7%A6%81%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7/ZH979433
 User:Ltdccba's explanation:
 https://zh.wikipedia.org/?oldid=26580664#.E8.AF.B7.E4.B8.8D.E8.A6.81.E4.BB.BF.E7.85.A7IP.E7.94.A8.E6.88.B7.E7.AD.BE.E5.90.8D
 
 Sorry if disturbing!
 
 Best Wishes!
 
 Addis Wang
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