Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-17 Thread Pine W
I think that we're discussing two related but distinct themes in this thread. One of them is the organization of the consultation, and the other is the substance of the strategy. I will be very interested to see how the consultation is structured with a communication professional in the ED role.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-17 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
As a follow-up to my posting yesterday, I have received a response from WMF staff at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/2016-2017 which states "We know that a common challenge for strategy and vision development work is that people everywhere have a tendency to frame their thinking through

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-16 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
The page at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/2016-2017 makes it clear that there are two stages to the strategy consultation being planned by the WMF: up to December the work is to define the process; from January the work is to execute that process. It has been a matter of some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have mentioned quality so often with so little response that I do not believe for an instant that Wikipedians really care to think beyond what is already done. Dismissing quality measures is easy when it means that some things will change. Wikipedia is resistant to change even when change

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Gerard, I think that readership has an interdependent relationship with the quality and quantity of our products and services, along with marketing and word of mouth. The quality and quantity of our products and services, along with marketing and word of mouth, are all issues that can be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For me there are two things missing. * It is about the readers stupid! That is what we do it for. So how are we going to get more readers, how do we involve them. What can we achieve when we consider marketing approaches and marketing KPI's. * If design is important.. ok but how about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-12 Thread Brill Lyle
Good points and thoughts here, Pine. *3. Governance* *Decentralization*I think is non-ideal. If WMF becomes incapacitated or corrupted the whole ship goes down. I don't see how decentralizing the structure would prevent this happenstance -- or more importantly provide a solution or contingency