Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-11-01 Thread
On 31 October 2015 at 17:43, Ilario Valdelli wrote: ... > Rodrigo reports: > > Pictures uploaded: 4.443 > Uploaders: 411 > New users registered on Commons: 325 > New users engagement: 79% > Pictures user on Wikipedia: 86 (2%) > > Are the goals reached? Basically yes. When the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 31.10.2015 12:12, Fæ wrote: On 31 Oct 2015 11:00, "Ilario Valdelli" wrote: On 31.10.2015 11:46, Fæ wrote: Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 per photograph? Fae 30.000 is exact, but they are 30.000 Real which means 11.000 USD. Cool.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread
We have many years of running these very similar projects. It should be possible to compare the value of outcomes against each other to see if some use better practices than others, and then to help assess future grant proposals for their potential value against estimated costs. I agree that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread
On 31 October 2015 at 02:26, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: ... > And this money, more then 30'000 USD, come from WMF for the WLE 2014/15 and Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 per photograph? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 31.10.2015 11:46, Fæ wrote: On 31 October 2015 at 02:26, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: ... And this money, more then 30'000 USD, come from WMF for the WLE 2014/15 and Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 per photograph? Fae

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Jane Darnell
I totally agree with Ilario here. We have yet to put a financial value on a Wikimedia contributor time unit, but I would venture to say that if such projects manage to procure even one Wikimedia contributor for the projects then that is money well spent. On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Ilario

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread
On 31 Oct 2015 11:00, "Ilario Valdelli" wrote: > > On 31.10.2015 11:46, Fæ wrote: >> Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 >> per photograph? >> >> Fae > > 30.000 is exact, but they are 30.000 Real which means 11.000 USD. Cool. So about $2.50

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Funny. Gerald: "What do YOU hope" [again YOU*] Me: "My point is not important here" Gerald:" When your point of view is that other people spending money is wrong because it does not conform to your ideas" ??? I don't have a point, I'm asking "Success for whom?" I asked that, and "you did not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Padula
We did a long research in 2014 to define the prizes as described in the budget request and reports to WMF. A lot of contests in Brasil pay prizes around R$10.000-R$60.000, the value of the prizes that we gave in Brasil are considered low by many participants and professionals in that field.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Michael Peel
> On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:34, Rodrigo Padula > wrote: > > A lot of contests in Brasil pay prizes around R$10.000-R$60.000, the value of > the prizes that we gave in Brasil are considered low by many participants and > professionals in that field. Isn't that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Again, and again. "Success for whom"? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Community_Brazilian_Group_of_Education_and_Research/Wiki_Loves_Earth_Brasil_2015#Measures_of_success The section "measure of success" reports: at least 400 participants uploading one photograph or more;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
"this is a normal budget for any WLM or WLE in several countries." WLE Brazil prizes: 3'300 EUR (2014) 3'000 EUR (2015) WLM 1800 EUR (2015) [1] WLE Thailand: 510 EUR (2014) Tunisia: 558 EUR (2015) Spain and Portugal: 1400 EUR (2015)... WLM: Ireland: 550 EUR (2015) Latvia 500 EUR (2015)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So you did not answer the question. What is it that you aim to achieve. I get words, no ideas, nothing. Only negativity. Money is there to burn as long as it probably leads to results. The results should not be compared with what is done elsewhere when elsewhere is incomparable. When your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread WereSpielChequers
Maybe it is time to reconsider some of our standard metrics for wiki loves monuments. One of the big gains in several countries has been to get a list of monuments into Wikipedia maybe in future direct into wikidata. I think that the standard metrics should reflect that, OK it is metadata,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
WereSpielChequers, I talked about that in the thread, if WLM and WLE would be closer (some countries are) to communities WP, Commons,... the result would be better. " I would like to see Wikimedia Commons volunteers be involved in the process, to create more clear, précised, and aligned rules

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Gerard, This "you" is for me? Right? Well I'm really asking here for whom this was successful, and tried to explore the several layers that could be impacted by this. My point is not important here, but this is a conversation, so: Measure of success: Wikimedia Commons receiving a good impact

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Richard Ames
Please slow this conversation down and do not personalise it. Regards, Richard ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-30 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
"success of WLE Brasil 2015" Success for whom? *For the Wikimedia Commons **it was totally **innocuous. * Less then 0,16% was a good quality image, including several snapshots (mobile made), downsized images; the retention probably will follow WLE BR 2014 and goona be very close to 0. No