Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-19 Thread Jan Ainali 
I heard a great quote the other month, a rif on some older quote: "There is
no free knowledge on a dead planet."

Besides that, there is plenty of core activities whose stories can be told
in the framework of the SDGs, because there is by nature a lot of alignment
between them. And when they are, they will be even more powerful, getting
more people onboard and further our mission beyond current plans. So it is
a false dichotomy putting the core mission against the SDGs when they
probably will be synergistic instead.

Jan Ainali



Den tors 19 sep. 2019 kl 20:36 skrev Henry Wood :

> Ad,
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 20:27, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> >
> > tl;dr Wikipedia can engage millions, billions of people to achieve the
> > Sustainable Development Goals by 2030
>
>
> That's nice, but the mission of the Foundation is to help everyone
> share in the sum of all knowledge, and people who have donated to the
> Fundation have done so to further that mission, not some other
> mission, however worthy.  If members of the Community wish to support
> the SDG, there are plenty of ways in which they can do so.  Diverting
> resources from the mission of the Foundation weakens its core mission
> and, I'll be blunt, is a fraud on the donors.
>
> Henry
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-19 Thread Henry Wood 
Ad,

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 20:27, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
>
> tl;dr Wikipedia can engage millions, billions of people to achieve the
> Sustainable Development Goals by 2030


That's nice, but the mission of the Foundation is to help everyone
share in the sum of all knowledge, and people who have donated to the
Fundation have done so to further that mission, not some other
mission, however worthy.  If members of the Community wish to support
the SDG, there are plenty of ways in which they can do so.  Diverting
resources from the mission of the Foundation weakens its core mission
and, I'll be blunt, is a fraud on the donors.

Henry

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Todd Allen 
I would agree with Philippe. I don't think I am stupid, but I know at times
I have said stupid things.

And I think Fae's concerns are reasonable, and also call into question
whether we should be encouraging tourism revenue to flow to illiberal,
repressive regimes to begin with. But certainly if people would be placed
at risk for traveling there, and the government is known to arrest tourists
just for being gay, that should at least be disclosed to prospective
attendees.

Todd

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:48 AM Philippe Beaudette 
wrote:

> Respectfully, my friend, I disagree. I often make silly or ill considered
> comments.  I hope those will not be the only data points used to describe
> me.
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:59 AM Gerard Meijssen  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Sorry but when you call my comments flippant, you call me flippant.
> > Thanks,
> >   GerardM
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 11:06, Andy Mabbett 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 09:24, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Calling someone "flippant" is a direct attack -
> > >
> > > Nobody called you flippant. Fæ said "your comments are flippant"
> > >
> > > Please stop this, now.
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Philippe Beaudette 
Respectfully, my friend, I disagree. I often make silly or ill considered
comments.  I hope those will not be the only data points used to describe
me.

Philippe



On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:59 AM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Sorry but when you call my comments flippant, you call me flippant.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 11:06, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 09:24, Gerard Meijssen  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Calling someone "flippant" is a direct attack -
> >
> > Nobody called you flippant. Fæ said "your comments are flippant"
> >
> > Please stop this, now.
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen 
Hoi,
Sorry but when you call my comments flippant, you call me flippant.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 11:06, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 09:24, Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
>
> > Calling someone "flippant" is a direct attack -
>
> Nobody called you flippant. Fæ said "your comments are flippant"
>
> Please stop this, now.
>
> --
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> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 09:24, Gerard Meijssen  wrote:

> Calling someone "flippant" is a direct attack -

Nobody called you flippant. Fæ said "your comments are flippant"

Please stop this, now.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen 
Hoi,
Calling someone "flippant" is a direct attack - not showing a serious or
respectful attitude - is what I find it means.. When you talk about serious
risk then I am sure that you have done a proper risk analysis.

When you consider risk, there is a balance to be found between the greater
good and the riscs involved. Our conventions are world wide and it is an
explicit aim to share in the sum of all worldwide. Consequently it is not
on to exclude countries for any reason. I will agree that attention is
appropriate when we consider where we are going.

When we do a risk analysis, the greater risk are medical risks because
people may get a whole host of diseases they ignore to be cognisant over. A
risk that we do not communicate. When you then consider the flippant
notions people have about vaccinations, the fact that such travel
advisories are not communicated we have another flippant aspect of our
travels that is not properly handled.

When I consider my own experience re conferences, I fly in to the
conference just in time. I take appropriate rest so that I am at my best at
the conference, I am fully occupied with the conference and when the day is
done I go to the hotel, eat, and prepare for the next day. When the
conference is done it is time to fly home. The point is that the notion of
people on holidays and people at a conference differ in their behaviour and
therefore their risks differ considerably. When people go to our conference
in Tunis or anywhere it is not a holiday, they tend to particularly engage
with people at the conference and this is yet another aspect mitigating the
risk.

I agree with you that Tunisia is not paradise. Your attacking style however
is your choice but you forgot to do the basics. For me it follows that your
singular point of view gets in the way what we aim to achieve, you may call
me flippant and, that says more about you than about me.
Thanks,
 GerardM





On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:18, Fæ  wrote:

> Gerard, your comments are flippant and deflect from the serious risk
> that our volunteers and employees are being subject to.
>
> Tunis is unsafe for LGBT+ people. None of our LGBT+ volunteers or
> employees should travel to tunis.
>
> LGBT+ travellers risk 3 years in prison, not in theory, in practice
> foreign tourists are being held in prison. The police are actively
> setting up sting operations, having used Grindr to entrap gay men,
> search their phones to discover who their friends are and any LGBT+
> material, then prosecute them for being homosexuals. Again not theory,
> this is evidence presented in the Tunis courts during prosecution. I
> and other Wikimedians at events have used Grindr and other LGBT+
> social networks during Wikimedia conferences to talk to each other. I
> and other Wikimedians have openly discussed LGBT+ topics on Wikimedia
> public projects, this material is hardly secret from the Tunis police,
> neither should the WMF or any other Affiliate ever put LGBT+
> volunteers in a position where we have to pretend not to be LGBT+.
>
> The USA is unwelcoming, with trans people likely to be abused or
> humiliated during immigration and having their digital data stolen by
> the NSA, but they are not subject to the threat of a 3 year prison
> sentence solely for being LGBT+.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
> --
> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> WM-LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 06:42, Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hoi,
> > To be honest, there are great reasons not to having meetings in the
> United
> > States for similar reasons. The notion of conversion of homosexuality is
> > alive and well, even though people who care to look at the science know
> > that it does not work. The murder rate among LGBTI people is sky high.
> The
> > country is highly discriminatory, not only because of race. The USA is a
> > country at war, the numbers show why; more USA civilians die because of
> gun
> > violence than do USA military personnel. The ease whereby the murder on
> > women is explained away with arguments like "she was at the wrong time at
> > the wrong place" and "boys will be boys".
> >
> > The point, when you advocate against countries, there is hardly anywhere
> > where your arguments don't hold. The objective is to educate and where we
> > stay away our message will not be heard. The Dutch "Zwarte Piet" will no
> > longer be black because of the foreign imposition of what is the
> > discriminatory practice "blackface" in the USA. But I digress. We should
> > engage all over the world particularly when the SDG are topical because
> > what global effect will it have when we ostracise countries like Tunesia
> or
> > the USA?
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 23:33, Fæ  wrote:
> >
> > > It astonishing that the WMF and affiliates are supporting a conference
> > > in Tunis. The country is not safe for LGBT+ people, including
> > > tourists, despite what promotional holiday and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Gereon Kalkuhl 
Fae, at Wiki Indaba 2018 in Tunisia we had at least 1 gay participant. I 
was not aware of any problems at this conference.

Gereon

Am 18.09.2019 um 08:17 schrieb Fæ:

Gerard, your comments are flippant and deflect from the serious risk
that our volunteers and employees are being subject to.

Tunis is unsafe for LGBT+ people. None of our LGBT+ volunteers or
employees should travel to tunis.

LGBT+ travellers risk 3 years in prison, not in theory, in practice
foreign tourists are being held in prison. The police are actively
setting up sting operations, having used Grindr to entrap gay men,
search their phones to discover who their friends are and any LGBT+
material, then prosecute them for being homosexuals. Again not theory,
this is evidence presented in the Tunis courts during prosecution. I
and other Wikimedians at events have used Grindr and other LGBT+
social networks during Wikimedia conferences to talk to each other. I
and other Wikimedians have openly discussed LGBT+ topics on Wikimedia
public projects, this material is hardly secret from the Tunis police,
neither should the WMF or any other Affiliate ever put LGBT+
volunteers in a position where we have to pretend not to be LGBT+.

The USA is unwelcoming, with trans people likely to be abused or
humiliated during immigration and having their digital data stolen by
the NSA, but they are not subject to the threat of a 3 year prison
sentence solely for being LGBT+.

Thanks,
Fae
--
fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
WM-LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 06:42, Gerard Meijssen  wrote:

Hoi,
To be honest, there are great reasons not to having meetings in the United
States for similar reasons. The notion of conversion of homosexuality is
alive and well, even though people who care to look at the science know
that it does not work. The murder rate among LGBTI people is sky high. The
country is highly discriminatory, not only because of race. The USA is a
country at war, the numbers show why; more USA civilians die because of gun
violence than do USA military personnel. The ease whereby the murder on
women is explained away with arguments like "she was at the wrong time at
the wrong place" and "boys will be boys".

The point, when you advocate against countries, there is hardly anywhere
where your arguments don't hold. The objective is to educate and where we
stay away our message will not be heard. The Dutch "Zwarte Piet" will no
longer be black because of the foreign imposition of what is the
discriminatory practice "blackface" in the USA. But I digress. We should
engage all over the world particularly when the SDG are topical because
what global effect will it have when we ostracise countries like Tunesia or
the USA?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 23:33, Fæ  wrote:


It astonishing that the WMF and affiliates are supporting a conference
in Tunis. The country is not safe for LGBT+ people, including
tourists, despite what promotional holiday and travel websites imply.

I urge anyone who is LGBT+ and booked to go to this conference,
including WMF employees, please reconsider and cancel your attendance.
You will be putting yourself at unnecessary risk.

It speaks volumes that on the one hand the WMF wishes to fund travel
and accommodation for a diversity working group, but then chooses to
hold the meetings in a country where this year there are cases of the
courts officially forcing anal examinations on suspected homosexuals
to "prove" they are homosexuals, deny the existence of trans people,
and where there has been a case of a foreign tourist going to prison
for their homosexuality.

Thanks,
Fae
--
fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
WM-LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 20:26, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:

tl;dr Wikipedia can engage millions, billions of people to achieve the
Sustainable Development Goals by 2030

Wikimedians and Wikipedians around the world have been involved with
Wikimedia 2030 since 2015. The strategic direction is to build the
essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge. Back in

2015 a

total of 193 members of the United Nations agreed to the 17 Sustainable
Developments Goals to be reached by the year 2030. Last August many of

you

were in Stockholm, Sweden for Wikimania. The theme this year was

“Stronger

Together: Wikimedia, Free Knowledge and the Sustainable Development
Goals”.[1]

Michael Edson, founder and director of UN Live, the Museum of the UN in
Kopenhagen, Denmark held a keynote and asked Wikipedia for help. The UN
isn’t able to reach millions, billions of people on its own to have them
work on achieving the SDGs.[2] Wikipedia reaches half a billion people

each

month. Millions of people have contributed to Wikipedia.

Of course Wikipedia can spread the knowledge about the SDGs and how to
solve them in each country, and in each language. We can make a very good
case for an “open

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread Fæ 
Gerard, your comments are flippant and deflect from the serious risk
that our volunteers and employees are being subject to.

Tunis is unsafe for LGBT+ people. None of our LGBT+ volunteers or
employees should travel to tunis.

LGBT+ travellers risk 3 years in prison, not in theory, in practice
foreign tourists are being held in prison. The police are actively
setting up sting operations, having used Grindr to entrap gay men,
search their phones to discover who their friends are and any LGBT+
material, then prosecute them for being homosexuals. Again not theory,
this is evidence presented in the Tunis courts during prosecution. I
and other Wikimedians at events have used Grindr and other LGBT+
social networks during Wikimedia conferences to talk to each other. I
and other Wikimedians have openly discussed LGBT+ topics on Wikimedia
public projects, this material is hardly secret from the Tunis police,
neither should the WMF or any other Affiliate ever put LGBT+
volunteers in a position where we have to pretend not to be LGBT+.

The USA is unwelcoming, with trans people likely to be abused or
humiliated during immigration and having their digital data stolen by
the NSA, but they are not subject to the threat of a 3 year prison
sentence solely for being LGBT+.

Thanks,
Fae
--
fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
WM-LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 06:42, Gerard Meijssen  wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> To be honest, there are great reasons not to having meetings in the United
> States for similar reasons. The notion of conversion of homosexuality is
> alive and well, even though people who care to look at the science know
> that it does not work. The murder rate among LGBTI people is sky high. The
> country is highly discriminatory, not only because of race. The USA is a
> country at war, the numbers show why; more USA civilians die because of gun
> violence than do USA military personnel. The ease whereby the murder on
> women is explained away with arguments like "she was at the wrong time at
> the wrong place" and "boys will be boys".
>
> The point, when you advocate against countries, there is hardly anywhere
> where your arguments don't hold. The objective is to educate and where we
> stay away our message will not be heard. The Dutch "Zwarte Piet" will no
> longer be black because of the foreign imposition of what is the
> discriminatory practice "blackface" in the USA. But I digress. We should
> engage all over the world particularly when the SDG are topical because
> what global effect will it have when we ostracise countries like Tunesia or
> the USA?
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 23:33, Fæ  wrote:
>
> > It astonishing that the WMF and affiliates are supporting a conference
> > in Tunis. The country is not safe for LGBT+ people, including
> > tourists, despite what promotional holiday and travel websites imply.
> >
> > I urge anyone who is LGBT+ and booked to go to this conference,
> > including WMF employees, please reconsider and cancel your attendance.
> > You will be putting yourself at unnecessary risk.
> >
> > It speaks volumes that on the one hand the WMF wishes to fund travel
> > and accommodation for a diversity working group, but then chooses to
> > hold the meetings in a country where this year there are cases of the
> > courts officially forcing anal examinations on suspected homosexuals
> > to "prove" they are homosexuals, deny the existence of trans people,
> > and where there has been a case of a foreign tourist going to prison
> > for their homosexuality.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Fae
> > --
> > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> > WM-LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 20:26, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> > >
> > > tl;dr Wikipedia can engage millions, billions of people to achieve the
> > > Sustainable Development Goals by 2030
> > >
> > > Wikimedians and Wikipedians around the world have been involved with
> > > Wikimedia 2030 since 2015. The strategic direction is to build the
> > > essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge. Back in
> > 2015 a
> > > total of 193 members of the United Nations agreed to the 17 Sustainable
> > > Developments Goals to be reached by the year 2030. Last August many of
> > you
> > > were in Stockholm, Sweden for Wikimania. The theme this year was
> > “Stronger
> > > Together: Wikimedia, Free Knowledge and the Sustainable Development
> > > Goals”.[1]
> > >
> > > Michael Edson, founder and director of UN Live, the Museum of the UN in
> > > Kopenhagen, Denmark held a keynote and asked Wikipedia for help. The UN
> > > isn’t able to reach millions, billions of people on its own to have them
> > > work on achieving the SDGs.[2] Wikipedia reaches half a billion people
> > each
> > > month. Millions of people have contributed to Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > Of course Wikipedia can spread the knowledge about the SDGs and how to
> > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen 
Hoi,
To be honest, there are great reasons not to having meetings in the United
States for similar reasons. The notion of conversion of homosexuality is
alive and well, even though people who care to look at the science know
that it does not work. The murder rate among LGBTI people is sky high. The
country is highly discriminatory, not only because of race. The USA is a
country at war, the numbers show why; more USA civilians die because of gun
violence than do USA military personnel. The ease whereby the murder on
women is explained away with arguments like "she was at the wrong time at
the wrong place" and "boys will be boys".

The point, when you advocate against countries, there is hardly anywhere
where your arguments don't hold. The objective is to educate and where we
stay away our message will not be heard. The Dutch "Zwarte Piet" will no
longer be black because of the foreign imposition of what is the
discriminatory practice "blackface" in the USA. But I digress. We should
engage all over the world particularly when the SDG are topical because
what global effect will it have when we ostracise countries like Tunesia or
the USA?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 23:33, Fæ  wrote:

> It astonishing that the WMF and affiliates are supporting a conference
> in Tunis. The country is not safe for LGBT+ people, including
> tourists, despite what promotional holiday and travel websites imply.
>
> I urge anyone who is LGBT+ and booked to go to this conference,
> including WMF employees, please reconsider and cancel your attendance.
> You will be putting yourself at unnecessary risk.
>
> It speaks volumes that on the one hand the WMF wishes to fund travel
> and accommodation for a diversity working group, but then chooses to
> hold the meetings in a country where this year there are cases of the
> courts officially forcing anal examinations on suspected homosexuals
> to "prove" they are homosexuals, deny the existence of trans people,
> and where there has been a case of a foreign tourist going to prison
> for their homosexuality.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
> --
> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> WM-LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 20:26, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> >
> > tl;dr Wikipedia can engage millions, billions of people to achieve the
> > Sustainable Development Goals by 2030
> >
> > Wikimedians and Wikipedians around the world have been involved with
> > Wikimedia 2030 since 2015. The strategic direction is to build the
> > essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge. Back in
> 2015 a
> > total of 193 members of the United Nations agreed to the 17 Sustainable
> > Developments Goals to be reached by the year 2030. Last August many of
> you
> > were in Stockholm, Sweden for Wikimania. The theme this year was
> “Stronger
> > Together: Wikimedia, Free Knowledge and the Sustainable Development
> > Goals”.[1]
> >
> > Michael Edson, founder and director of UN Live, the Museum of the UN in
> > Kopenhagen, Denmark held a keynote and asked Wikipedia for help. The UN
> > isn’t able to reach millions, billions of people on its own to have them
> > work on achieving the SDGs.[2] Wikipedia reaches half a billion people
> each
> > month. Millions of people have contributed to Wikipedia.
> >
> > Of course Wikipedia can spread the knowledge about the SDGs and how to
> > solve them in each country, and in each language. We can make a very good
> > case for an “open access knowledge sharing project related to the
> > Sustainable Development Goals that uses Wikipedia as a tool”. A lot of
> > knowledge will have to be gathered locally about local solutions to local
> > problems. We as a free knowledge movement have done so succesfully in the
> > past. We can do succesfully now.
> >
> > The one big reason to step upto the challenge is in the vision of the
> > movement: “Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely
> > share in the sum of all knowledge.” Imagine every single human having
> > access to how to solve each of the Sustainable Development Goals in their
> > locality, in their language.[3]
> >
> > Another reason is part of our mission: to empower and engage people
> around
> > the world to collect and develop educational content.[4] Might people
> > involved with the movement be able to educate people why and how to solve
> > global goals locally?
> >
> > Knowledge about SDGs is just a small subset of all knowledge. It would
> be a
> > big step for mankind to have exactly that knowledge available well before
> > the year 2030.[5] It won’t impede anyone to collect and share knowledge
> > outside that subset, however.
> >
> > To make it happen imagine having a small office with a handful dedicated
> > people in each country. People with the capacity to build partnerships
> with
> > NGO’s, universities, research institutions, government agencies, groups
> of
> > citizens who are already involved with the SDGs.[6] People with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-17 Thread Fæ 
It astonishing that the WMF and affiliates are supporting a conference
in Tunis. The country is not safe for LGBT+ people, including
tourists, despite what promotional holiday and travel websites imply.

I urge anyone who is LGBT+ and booked to go to this conference,
including WMF employees, please reconsider and cancel your attendance.
You will be putting yourself at unnecessary risk.

It speaks volumes that on the one hand the WMF wishes to fund travel
and accommodation for a diversity working group, but then chooses to
hold the meetings in a country where this year there are cases of the
courts officially forcing anal examinations on suspected homosexuals
to "prove" they are homosexuals, deny the existence of trans people,
and where there has been a case of a foreign tourist going to prison
for their homosexuality.

Thanks,
Fae
-- 
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 20:26, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
>
> tl;dr Wikipedia can engage millions, billions of people to achieve the
> Sustainable Development Goals by 2030
>
> Wikimedians and Wikipedians around the world have been involved with
> Wikimedia 2030 since 2015. The strategic direction is to build the
> essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge. Back in 2015 a
> total of 193 members of the United Nations agreed to the 17 Sustainable
> Developments Goals to be reached by the year 2030. Last August many of you
> were in Stockholm, Sweden for Wikimania. The theme this year was “Stronger
> Together: Wikimedia, Free Knowledge and the Sustainable Development
> Goals”.[1]
>
> Michael Edson, founder and director of UN Live, the Museum of the UN in
> Kopenhagen, Denmark held a keynote and asked Wikipedia for help. The UN
> isn’t able to reach millions, billions of people on its own to have them
> work on achieving the SDGs.[2] Wikipedia reaches half a billion people each
> month. Millions of people have contributed to Wikipedia.
>
> Of course Wikipedia can spread the knowledge about the SDGs and how to
> solve them in each country, and in each language. We can make a very good
> case for an “open access knowledge sharing project related to the
> Sustainable Development Goals that uses Wikipedia as a tool”. A lot of
> knowledge will have to be gathered locally about local solutions to local
> problems. We as a free knowledge movement have done so succesfully in the
> past. We can do succesfully now.
>
> The one big reason to step upto the challenge is in the vision of the
> movement: “Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely
> share in the sum of all knowledge.” Imagine every single human having
> access to how to solve each of the Sustainable Development Goals in their
> locality, in their language.[3]
>
> Another reason is part of our mission: to empower and engage people around
> the world to collect and develop educational content.[4] Might people
> involved with the movement be able to educate people why and how to solve
> global goals locally?
>
> Knowledge about SDGs is just a small subset of all knowledge. It would be a
> big step for mankind to have exactly that knowledge available well before
> the year 2030.[5] It won’t impede anyone to collect and share knowledge
> outside that subset, however.
>
> To make it happen imagine having a small office with a handful dedicated
> people in each country. People with the capacity to build partnerships with
> NGO’s, universities, research institutions, government agencies, groups of
> citizens who are already involved with the SDGs.[6] People with the
> capacity to organize SDG themed writing contests and SDG themed
> edit-a-thons with participants from interested parties.[7]
>
> As written above, it has been agreed to build the essential infrastructure
> of the ecosystem of free knowledge. Why would it be worthwhile to invest 50
> million dollar a year to build such an infrastructure?[8] With those tiny
> offices in each country we it can exactly be done what Michael Edson begged
> us to do: get millions (or billions) of people working together on global
> goals and share the knowledge they gathered. To connect people everywhere
> and catalyze global effort toward accomplishing the Sustainable Development
> Goals.
>
> The Wikimedia movement has the capacity to raise the necessary funds
> through banners on Wikipedia on top of what is now already collected, and
> alreadt spent each year.[9] After a long period - over four years - of
> mainly inward looking activities of board and working groups, the time has
> come to look outwards. The works of our movement have influence globally
> and can have global impact. Not impact measured as number of articles, or
> number of editors retained, but impact on the real social life of seven
> billion people, by sharing knowledge how to end poverty, how to end hunger
> and so on.[11]
>
> Imagine a world where there is no poverty and