Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-12 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 10/04/2018 à 11:03, David Cuenca Tudela a écrit : Regarding the question if the WMF should build a social network for the masses, I don't think it should. A general purpose social network is mainly used for sharing personal events, viral stories, cat pictures, and so on. It does not offer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-11 Thread Quim Gil
(These are personal opinions based on my own personal interest in free and volunteer-driven social networks, not an opinion as a WMF member.) On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > Hi, > > I have been looking for social networking service that would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Leinonen Teemu
> On 10 Apr 2018, at 9.58, Michael Snow wrote: > > On 4/9/2018 11:14 PM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: >>> On 10 Apr 2018, at 7.02, Erik Moeller wrote: >>> Wikimedia projects are social networks, but they are purpose-driven >>> social networks [1] where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Edward Saperia
My kneejerk response was to reject this idea, but it's at least worth considering; Working on wikimedia feels productive because permanent artefacts are produced - articles etc - but these are a direct product of the community around them. Better community tools will produce better outputs and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Yury Bulka
If we want to improve the situation, I think one of the simplest things to do would be to increase the presence of WMF and Wikipedia on the Federation and Fediverse networks-of-networks. For a start, we could just be cross-posting from the WMF blog officially. And I don't think we need a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Gnangarra
what i see is that developing a full FB type network is outside the current scope and capacity of the movement and will probably remain there. There is always room for further development of tools for user and talk pages the will enhance collaborative activities. I also think that at some stage

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Unlike Erik, I don't think an open alternative to Facebook will emerge, the inertia at this point is too big and you would need a huge critical mass of people (and organizations) to make it useful. Hard to attain. The only contender on the long run to FB could be reddit, because they seem to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Michael Snow
On 4/9/2018 11:14 PM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: On 10 Apr 2018, at 7.02, Erik Moeller wrote: Wikimedia projects are social networks, but they are purpose-driven social networks [1] where participants are more strongly connected through their overlapping interests than through

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Leinonen Teemu
> On 10 Apr 2018, at 7.02, Erik Moeller wrote: > Wikimedia projects are social networks, but they are purpose-driven > social networks [1] where participants are more strongly connected > through their overlapping interests than through pre-existing social > connections. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Peter Southwood
? -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Leinonen Teemu Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 9:25 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ? On 9 Apr 2018, at 11.28

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not > abusing > personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity, > free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Leinonen Teemu
On 9 Apr 2018, at 11.28, Peter Southwood > wrote: Why would we want to? Because we want to "become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge”. How would it further the aims of the movement? Knowledge is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Peter Southwood
Why would we want to? How would it further the aims of the movement? How much would it cost? Who would run it? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Leinonen Teemu Sent: 09 April 2018 09:46 To: Wikimedia Mailing