Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia, right, but on the blockchain

[Samuel Klein]

Right.  "Let's take all of the bad takes on how Wikipedia, incentives, and
decentralized production work, pile them onto a raft made of Ether and
magnesium, and float into the future!"


On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 7:06 PM, David Gerard  wrote:

> Advertising-funded Wikipedia that micropays participants from
> advertising revenue, on the Ethereum blockchain! The important bit is
> to give them startup money.
>
> "Lunyr: Decentralized Wikipedia on the blockchain"
> https://medium.com/@cryptojudgement/lunyr-decentralized-wikipedia-on-
> the-blockchain-4072606d5fc5
>
> I have a number of thoughts on this, all negative:
> https://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2017/04/25/wikipedia-
> right-but-on-the-blockchain/
>
> Jimbo wasn't impressed either:
> https://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/856060215577464833
>
>
> - d.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia, right, but on the blockchain

[Andy Cruz y Corro]

Quick, non-neutral comments on the article, abridged for people on the go:

>> Wikipedia is the sixth most visited website in the world. Therefore,
Lunyr sees the potential revenue from advertising on its platform at a very
high level.

Of course, nobody has ever thought of planting ads on a Top 10 internet
site. Get this person a Nobel Prize or something.

>> *An image titled "Wikipedia's advertising revenue potential*

See above

>> Once the platform matures as a knowledge base, real-time contribution of
multi-language data shall be made available.

As opposed to a system that makes data available *as it is going through
this maturation process*

>> ...an economic incentive is proposed to contributors. They are rewarded
for their work and are therefore incentivized to further increase the value
of the ecosystem

Because, as several millennia of civilization shows, people contribute if
and only if there's an economic incentive to do so.

>> Three types of tokens are used in the Lunyr network [One for buying ads
on the network, one for calculating how many ad-tokens contributors
receive, one for participating in dispute resolutions]

I had a rant about complexity and people who despise it, but it doesn't fit
the margins of this email.

>> Roadmap using astronomical terms as Stage names

My inner pedant wonders why "Interstellar" goes before "Supernova", and why
"Nebula" comes before "Cosmic" and "why "Galaxy" is the last stage.

>>In the Lunyr whitepaper, the respective team is listed and after some
research online, I see no reason to doubt the intentions of the team

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell
lies?

>> Likely, a website like Wikipedia will not cooperate with Lunyr, as their
policy is strictly against advertising on their platform and Lunyr is a
competitor.

Then, why mention it?

>> Users have built some sort of reputation on Wikipedia, which they are
looking to keep and maintain

I firmly believe that if there was an objectively better alternative than
Wikipedia, people would flood it, regardless of their in-site reputation.
See: People who contribute to other wikis

>> I could also see myself as a future contributor to the platform. But for
this, I will most likely monitor the project for a while before starting
any contribution.

"I believe that this is a good boat and will not sink. I wish I could use
it to conquer the seas, but I will monitor it from the shore before I get
in"

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:02 PM, geni  wrote:

> On 26 April 2017 at 00:06, David Gerard  wrote:
> > Advertising-funded Wikipedia that micropays participants from
> > advertising revenue, on the Ethereum blockchain! The important bit is
> > to give them startup money.
> >
> > "Lunyr: Decentralized Wikipedia on the blockchain"
> > https://medium.com/@cryptojudgement/lunyr-decentralized-wikipedia-on-
> the-blockchain-4072606d5fc5
> >
> > I have a number of thoughts on this, all negative:
> > https://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2017/04/25/wikipedia-
> right-but-on-the-blockchain/
> >
> > Jimbo wasn't impressed either:
> > https://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/856060215577464833
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
>
>
> Hmm they are taking their user interface from here:
>
> https://www.behance.net/gallery/16219877/Wikipedia-Redesign-Concept
>
>
> Which was the one that happened to be the target of the critique here
>
> http://jgthms.com/wikipedia-redesign.html
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia, right, but on the blockchain

[geni]

On 26 April 2017 at 00:06, David Gerard  wrote:
> Advertising-funded Wikipedia that micropays participants from
> advertising revenue, on the Ethereum blockchain! The important bit is
> to give them startup money.
>
> "Lunyr: Decentralized Wikipedia on the blockchain"
> https://medium.com/@cryptojudgement/lunyr-decentralized-wikipedia-on-the-blockchain-4072606d5fc5
>
> I have a number of thoughts on this, all negative:
> https://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2017/04/25/wikipedia-right-but-on-the-blockchain/
>
> Jimbo wasn't impressed either:
> https://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/856060215577464833
>
>
> - d.
>


Hmm they are taking their user interface from here:

https://www.behance.net/gallery/16219877/Wikipedia-Redesign-Concept


Which was the one that happened to be the target of the critique here

http://jgthms.com/wikipedia-redesign.html


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