Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

2016-03-09 Thread Lodewijk
Maybe it is better to take a step back at what we're trying to accomplish exactly, rather than discuss differences in how the labour market works in different countries (which is quite interesting in itself, but maybe not quite well placed on this list). Lodewijk On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:31 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

2016-03-09 Thread Derek V.Giroulle
In belgium three trade unions would at any one time have one or more representatives in any one company depending on the size of the work force, some specialised trade unions like the railwaymen would represent large special interest groups The TU would have their members and the only moment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

2016-03-09 Thread Risker
Some historical context may be useful here, Gerard. The reality is that, while many workplaces aren't unionized in North America, there are also many workplaces where there is serious competition between two or more unions to represent the same employees. In many parts of Canada and the U.S.,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

2016-03-09 Thread Chandres Wikipedia
> > b) In france , belgium , the netherlands , germany, scandianavian countries, > austria even swtizerland any worker (wage earning) is free to join a > labourunion and about 80% of private sector workers are syndicated , public > servants are even over 90% syndicated > I don’t know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

2016-03-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is a travesty when it is up to an employer to recognise a trade union. The question is very much what is implied by such a recognition. It may be cultural but I would consider the WMF seriously flawed when it is not willing to recognise the right of employees to be organised. A trade

Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

2016-03-09 Thread
You can ask the chapters if you want, but I doubt anyone can imagine a scenario where the answer is going to be anything but yes. If a chapter or the WMF were (rather riskily) to refuse to officially recognize an employee's chosen union then processes such as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

2016-03-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 9 March 2016 at 09:50, Derek V.Giroulle wrote: > Wikimedia UK does have anything to say about unions its employees are free > to join a union The issue is not whether anyone "is allowed to join" a trade union; but whether that trade union is recognised by the