Hi James,

Although I have a variety of frustrations with WMF Community Resources and
for COI reasons I would like to have ways to fund Wikimedia projects with
minimal involvement or approvals from WMF, I agree with Danny that your
proposal as written is likely outside of the scope for the Community
Wishlist Survey and that your proposal would benefit from clarification. I
support Danny's decision, but I thank you for thinking about these topics.
I hope to see more discussion of fundraising and distribution of resources
in the weeks and months ahead, including in the context of the WMF strategy
process.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:02 PM James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to appeal
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019%2FArchive%2FAssist_Wikimedians_with_crowdfunding&type=revision&diff=18603544&oldid=18594887
>
> on the grounds that adding a different behavior to existing behavior
> in order to try to measure which is better is an inherent part of
> every technical and documentation approval. In other words, trying
> something new isn't the same as irrevocable change unless it is
> incontrovertible that the change is an obvious improvement, the extent
> of which should be measured.
>
> Or to put it another way, the Foundation should build manual-only
> fundraising bots and give access to them in addition to ordinary
> grants. I hope you agree, but if you don't, that's okay too.
>
> Thank you for reading this appeal. Whether this project succeeds or
> otherwise, I wish you the best.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
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