Re: [Wikimedia-SF] @congressedits

2014-07-11 Thread Peter Kaminski

Hi Karen,

The issue is that the IP address, especially nowadays, can provide 
identifying information such as physical location or organizational 
affiliation.  Registering an account, perhaps with a pseudonym, and then 
using that to edit, prevents those details from being made public.


To some, it seems unfair that registered accounts have that sort of 
protection, while anonymous edits don't.  There are ways to mask your IP 
address, of course, but they are technical, may trigger additional 
surveillance, and may not be obvious to someone who just wants to edit 
Wikipedia.


There is discussion of using one-way encryption or some other technical 
means to be able to obfuscate anonymous users' IP addresses, while still 
having a fixed identity for users from a particular address.  Another 
solution would be to set up an "account-in-waiting" for anonymous users, 
based on their IP address.  But that might be a problem for IP addresses 
that are used by multiple people, who might include spammers along with 
real contributors.


Pete

On 7/11/14, 09:58 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:

Thanks, Peter. I do know that Ed based his code on a UK or EU version. 
As for the IP addresses, those are stored in the WP versioning - is 
the issue that it points out the location based on the IP? (Which 
anyone could look up, but this makes it more obvious.)


kc

On 7/11/14, 9:16 AM, Peter Kaminski wrote:

There are a few similar accounts for various countries; here's a list:

https://twitter.com/palnatoke/wikiedit/members

The subject also sparked a current thread on wikitech-l [1] about
whether or not is appropriate to publish IP addresses for anonymous
editors, because it enables this sort of partial de-anonymizing.

Pete

[1] 
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-July/077524.html


On 7/11/14, 09:05 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:


There is a new service developed by Ed Summers (@edsu) that tweets
edits made anonymously from the US Congress' IP range. The twitter
handle is @congressedits -- and it is very interesting! Especially
from the point of view of potential conflict of interest. But it also
may give, over time, a picture of how Washington-related information
gets updated in WP.

kc



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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] @congressedits

2014-07-11 Thread Karen Coyle
Thanks, Peter. I do know that Ed based his code on a UK or EU version. 
As for the IP addresses, those are stored in the WP versioning - is the 
issue that it points out the location based on the IP? (Which anyone 
could look up, but this makes it more obvious.)


kc

On 7/11/14, 9:16 AM, Peter Kaminski wrote:

There are a few similar accounts for various countries; here's a list:

https://twitter.com/palnatoke/wikiedit/members

The subject also sparked a current thread on wikitech-l [1] about
whether or not is appropriate to publish IP addresses for anonymous
editors, because it enables this sort of partial de-anonymizing.

Pete

[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-July/077524.html

On 7/11/14, 09:05 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:


There is a new service developed by Ed Summers (@edsu) that tweets
edits made anonymously from the US Congress' IP range. The twitter
handle is @congressedits -- and it is very interesting! Especially
from the point of view of potential conflict of interest. But it also
may give, over time, a picture of how Washington-related information
gets updated in WP.

kc



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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] @congressedits

2014-07-11 Thread Peter Kaminski

There are a few similar accounts for various countries; here's a list:

https://twitter.com/palnatoke/wikiedit/members

The subject also sparked a current thread on wikitech-l [1] about 
whether or not is appropriate to publish IP addresses for anonymous 
editors, because it enables this sort of partial de-anonymizing.


Pete

[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-July/077524.html

On 7/11/14, 09:05 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:

There is a new service developed by Ed Summers (@edsu) that tweets 
edits made anonymously from the US Congress' IP range. The twitter 
handle is @congressedits -- and it is very interesting! Especially 
from the point of view of potential conflict of interest. But it also 
may give, over time, a picture of how Washington-related information 
gets updated in WP.


kc



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