I think we're a little behind the 8-ball there. If we're going to protest
anything, it should be FOSTA/SESTA. There should never be a reason for a
web provider to be liable for the acts of its users.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/29/sexual-freedom-fosta-sosta

Net neutrality is important too, but the integrity of Section 230 is
absolutely crucial.

Todd

On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Neal McBurnett <neal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can our user group support this initiative?
> Does it make sense to ask the FCC to enforce something they don't like?
> Would a full legislative approach make more sense?
> Or maybe Wyden knows what he's talking about - he's good!....
>
> --Neal
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Peter Meyer <peter.me...@wikidc.org>
> Date: Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 6:35 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Continuing the U.S. Net Neutrality conversation
> To: neal...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Stephen LaPorte <slapo...@wikimedia.org>
> *Date:* April 21, 2018 at 17:26:15 GMT+2
> *To:* Alice Backer <alice.bac...@gmail.com>, Rob Fernandez <
> wikigamal...@gmail.com>, Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com>, Andrew Lih <
> andrew....@gmail.com>, Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org>, Megan
> Wacha <megan.wa...@gmail.com>, Eileen Hershenov <ehershe...@wikimedia.org>,
> Joshua Weinberg <jweinb...@wikimedia.org>, Peter Meyer <
> peter.me...@wikidc.org>, Kevin Payravi <kevinpayr...@gmail.com>, Chuck
> Roslof <cros...@wikimedia.org>, dalesi...@buckeyemail.osu.edu, Jan
> Gerlach <jgerl...@wikimedia.org>
> *Subject:* *Continuing the U.S. Net Neutrality conversation*
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Great conversation today about Net Neutrality in the United States, and
> the importance for Wikimedia.
>
> A few action items we discussed:
>
>    - *To do*: Talk with other US Wikimedia organizations to get their
>    opinion on a Wikipedia banner (or blackout) support Net Neutrality.
>       - Rob is putting together a list of US Wikimedia groups for
>       conversations—Can you share the link?
>    - *To do*: Share some resources on Wikimedia's position on Net
>    Neutrality and the timeline. Please see below for some documents from the
>    Foundation.
>    - *To do*: Decide how (and if) to present the position of the US
>    Wikimedia organizations for community consensus on a banner or other
>    community action. You can see the previous discussion from last year
>    here
>    
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_143#Wikipedia_and_the_Dec._12th_%E2%80%9CBreak_The_Internet%E2%80%9D_day_of_action_for_net_neutrality>
>    .
>    - *To do*: Decide if you want to meet with Senator Wyden, to share
>    what the Wikimedia community is doing, and also to start building a
>    relationship and asking for other support for Wikimedia (great suggestion
>    from Josh). If you don't want to, or if you don't think it's feasible to
>    meet this short timeline, "no" is also fine.
>
> Some resources from the Foundation:
>
>    - More information here
>    
> <https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/27/senator-markey-officially-introduces-legislation-to-reestablish-net-neutrality/>
>  (more
>    detail here
>    
> <https://doyle.house.gov/press-release/doyle-markey-introduce-bill-preserve-net-neutrality>)
>    is available on the pending resolution to CRA resolution. The resolution
>    may need a Senate vote *before the end of May*, so if the Wikimedia
>    community plans to take action, a decision is likely necessary within the
>    next two weeks.
>    - In August 2017, the Foundation to the FCC (here
>    
> <https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10830645308265/Wikimedia%20Foundation%20comments%20on%20%E2%80%9CRestoring%20Internet%20Freedom%E2%80%9D%20(WC%20Docket%2017-108).pdf>)
>    commenting on its proposal to deregulate ISPs and urging it not to roll
>    back the net neutrality rules that had been in place since 2015.
>    - In December 2017, the Foundation published a blog post (here
>    
> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/12/04/net-neutrality-access-to-knowledge/>)
>    in which we explain that the ability to freely connect and find information
>    online is important for access to knowledge and online collaboration. We
>    urged the FCC again not to roll back the net neutrality rules.
>
> I took a few notes during the meeting on great suggestions:
>
>    - There was general interest in the room for a banner of some sort,
>    but it may be worth proposing other bolder options too.
>    - It's useful to have a clear statement about how an issue like Net
>    Neutrality affects the Wikimedia community. Keep it simple. Have good
>    talking points.
>    - Consider how to appeal to Spanish-speaking populations in the United
>    States. If the community supports a banner geolocated to the US, should it
>    include both Spanish and English Wikipedia?
>    - Color of Change has a good explanation of Net Neutrality as an
>    equity issue. (If someone can find or share that link with the group, it
>    would be helpful.)
>    - If you want to work with (or just talk to) any activist
>    organizations, please reach out to Jan and me, and we'd be happy to make
>    introductions.
>    - It's good to have a list of other high priority issues that US
>    Wikimedians want to discuss in DC (the Librarian of Congress and Copyright,
>    defending CDA 230, and more).
>
> Please share this email with other Wikimedians for coordination, or move
> it into Rob's Google Doc if that is easier. Also please feel free to share
> your notes from the meeting or any other ideas.
>
> Thanks for sharing all your ideas this afternoon. I'm looking forward to
> hearing what you decide.
>
> Best,
> Stephen
>
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> Wikimedia Foundation
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