Re: [Wikimediaau-l] AGM report

2009-12-01 Thread Gnangarra
2009/12/1 Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org

 On 2009-Nov-30 10:42:49 +1100, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 that here in Sydney, we're shooting for one more mini-meetup before
 christmas,

 I think this might be being hopeful.

  it would be great to get as many folk along as possible, and on a
 related note, I've just created http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meetups to
 see
 if a centralised meetup area on the 'official' wiki might help - please do
 add info. from other states as appropriate :-)

 IMHO, the major downside of moving the local meetups page to the
 WM-AU server is that only WM-AU members have editing rights.  This
 means that people who aren't members, for whatever reason, aren't
 able to comment.  My feeling is that this will discourage people.


Having a meetup page for WM-au organised events is fine but it should not be
seen or promoted as a replacement to/of Wikipedia meetups organised by local
editors





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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Meet-up arrangements

2009-12-01 Thread Andrew Garrett

On 01/12/2009, at 11:50 AM, Gnangarra wrote:
 Having a meetup page for WM-au organised events is fine but it should not be 
 seen or promoted as a replacement to/of Wikipedia meetups organised by local 
 editors

I'm fine with Wikimedia Australia co-ordinating and mediating some meet-ups, so 
long as:
* There is an appropriate mixture of working meetings where we have 
structured discussion, social meet-ups where the locals get together and have 
a chat, and outreach meetups where we are primarily aiming to meet up with 
local folks from other organisations. This is one thing I've noticed with 
chapter-organised meet-ups compared to community-organised meet-ups — they tend 
to be more serious. There is immense value in simple regular social 
gatherings of local community members.
* There is not undue influence being exerted, and the community is free to do 
its own organisation of meet-ups in the same space. That is, if the Wikimedia 
Australia site is to become an organising point for meet-ups, then WMAU should 
not have a monopoly on meet-ups arranged there.

One thing I like that I've found with the London meet-ups is that they have a 
set place and time (the second Sunday of each month, in the Penderel's Oak in 
Holborn). It might be nice to arrange something similar for the larger (or 
indeed smaller) Australian cities. Of course, attendance at every meet-up is 
not compulsory, but it makes meet-ups predictable and regular, rather than the 
when Privatemusings feels like arranging one system we have going right now 
(at least in Sydney).

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