[Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Liam Wyatt
Good morning :-) I've just been called by the producer for ABC702 morning show (presenter is Linda Mottram) and asked to talk on radio sometime between 10 and 10:30 about Wikipedia's errors, how we improve the contet etc, etc, - in the context of the recent bushfire / Greg Hunt story in the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Charles Gregory
From what I can see - quick summary: - Before October 8 there were only sporadic changes; - Between the 8th and 23rd, there was - a paragraph added to say the worst had been in Victoria, with examples; - addition of the Warrumbungie Bushfire (Jan 2013), 2013 New South Wales bushfires

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Liam Wyatt
Thanks for that rundown Charles. To clarify, has the specific climate change discussion and section appeared *subsequent* to this media controversy or was it there beforehand? (Still on my mobile) -Liam On Friday, October 25, 2013, Charles Gregory wrote: From what I can see - quick summary:

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Charles Gregory
I forgot to say - thanks Liam for doing these sorts of media activities - I trust you are happy to do these sorts of calls? I guess if they are calling your mobile then you kind of don't have a lot of leeway :) You certainly speak and present well in interviews and represent the chapter and the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Kerry Raymond
One could also comment that the citations added in the climate change section are to major scientific organisations in Australia and internationally. Sent from my iPad On 25/10/2013, at 9:07 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: The article has had a lot of edits in the past week

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Kerry Raymond
The article has had a lot of edits in the past week and the climate change section looks like it has been added after the Greg Hunt story. I note a few familiar usernames in the edit history as well as IPs. some reverting has occurred. How to phrase it ... Hmm ... I think a key point is that

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Charles Gregory
-politics/political-news/greg-hunt-uses-wikipedia-research-to-dismiss-links-between-climate-change-and-bushfires-20131023-2w1w5.html (Naturally today has been followed up with: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/wikipedias-verdict-on-greg-hunt-terrible-at-his-job-20131024-2w34y.html

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Leigh Blackall
While I wouldn't advise mentioning it in a media interview, if there were someway to remind people that Wikipedia is ultimately political, and deeper analysis of the edit history and userbase reveals this wonderfully. If you did venture into this topic Liam, you might point to the profile that the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Kerry Raymond
I think that's a largely anecdotal depiction of WP editors. The 2011 survey showed average age of editors was 31 but that older editors made more contributions than younger ones. The survey showed about 90% male. It showed above average education levels and did not ask if they were interested

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Kerry Raymond
Younger editors are more likely to be defending against vandalism than adding content (as a gross generalization) Sent from my iPad On 25/10/2013, at 9:49 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's a largely anecdotal depiction of WP editors. The 2011 survey showed

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread G. White
I heard that comment on radio and immediately added a balancing ref to a scientific opinionhttps://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#label/The+Conversation/141dca106db92c85n that was published in *The Conversation* (an online journal of expert views in easy-to-understand language, or as they put

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Liam Wyatt
Phew! Done. Not sure if they will podcast it and put it online, but what I basically said was to quote the *new* lede section that refers to C.C. and point out that we're thankful for the amount of attention drawn to the article and the topic as this causes it to increase in quality. I then reeled

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

2013-10-24 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi, I'm in Rainbow Beach this weekend on holiday (and hadn't intended to get involved in WP stuff), but Whiteghost is correct here. I would point out that even Wikipedia, like most encyclopædias itself recommends that you use the site as the start of research and gaining an understanding of a