Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest

2013-11-04 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi John,

What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize?
 Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?

Cheers,
Craig Franklin
President - Wikimedia Australia


On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great concept.

 I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the
 WMAu chapter.

 I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp.
 Ivonne  Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be
 very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help
 newbies.

 Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and
 help organise the competition in Oz.

 --
 John
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com
 Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM
 Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading
 contest
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 Cc:

 Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the
 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading
 contest.

 Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread
 and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The
 person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.

 However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the
 Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an
 international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess
 ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each
 community to organize it.

 What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to
 get involved?

 Micru

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest

2013-11-04 Thread Craig Franklin
Well, that would be well within the realm of what the WMAU Volunteer
Support Programme would be able to fund, if one of our members were to
apply:

http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Volunteer_Support_Programme

Cheers,
Craig


On 4 November 2013 22:18, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I'd be 100 dollars/euros, something low budget (like a Kindle or a
 Kobo).

 Aubrey



 On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Craig Franklin 
 cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote:

 Hi John,

 What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize?
  Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?

 Cheers,
 Craig Franklin
 President - Wikimedia Australia


 On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great concept.

 I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the
 WMAu chapter.

 I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia
 (esp. Ivonne  Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to
 be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help
 newbies.

 Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and
 help organise the competition in Oz.

 --
 John
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com
 Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM
 Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal :
 Proofreading contest
 To: discussion list for Wikisource, the free library 
 wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Cc:

 Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the
 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading
 contest.

 Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread
 and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The
 person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.

 However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the
 Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an
 international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess
 ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each
 community to organize it.

 What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like
 to get involved?

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest

2013-11-04 Thread Kerry Raymond
You have to set rewards carefully in this sort of thing.

 

What demographic is the target audience? What prize will appeal to them? I
assume here that we want people sufficiently computer-literate to use
Wikisources and capable to type, spell, and punctuate accurately (or else
Wikisources will be filled up with rubbish) and the time to make lots of
contributions. It sounds like an older audience to me, but I may be biased .

 

Where you only have one prize for the best or in this case the most, it
has to be something that strongly appeals to your desired target audience
(something they probably don't have but would like to have) so that they are
motivated to work towards it. The danger of a most prize is that once
someone realises they are not going to win the prize because they can see
others are clearly a long way ahead of them - will this be visible to the
participants?), they may drop out if the prize was a primary motivation. It
may be better if you offer an additional prize (one or more) as a lucky draw
where the more contributions you make, the more chances you have in the
draw. This may help motivation for those who know they cannot be the overall
winner but can see that continued effort is more likely to lead to a prize
nonetheless.

 

In this regard, I am not sure that a Kindle would be a sufficiently
motivational prize for an Australian audience. I rather suspect anyone who
wants one will have already bought one, noting that you can buy one for $99
in BigW. I regularly see iPads offered as random prizes for filling in a
survey suggesting Australians would need more inducement than a Kindle for a
sustained involvement. Of course we hope that people want to contribute for
more altruistic reasons, but given we know that SLQ has found that their
volunteers find WikiSource transcription harder than Trove transcriptions
(which has a big volunteer base already), some kind of inducements may be
needed to encourage Australians to get over the apparently higher learning
curve of Wikisource, which again may speak in favour of a more lottery-style
prize (the more you contribute, the greater your chances of winning).

 

To my mind, this is not a VSP thing. Partly because I think the prize(s)
would need to be higher than the VSP threshold, but more importantly
because, as John mentions, there is a need for support of newbies and that
needs some coordination etc. So it's more than just an issue of reimbursing
the money for the prize.

 

Kerry

 

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proposal : Proofreading contest

 

Hi John,

 

What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize?  Is
it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?

 

Cheers,

Craig Franklin

President - Wikimedia Australia

 

On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

Great concept.

I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the
WMAu chapter.

I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp.
Ivonne  Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very
successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.

Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help
organise the competition in Oz.

--
John

-- Forwarded message --
From: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com
Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading
contest
To: discussion list for Wikisource, the free library
wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: 



Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the
10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading
contest.

Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and
validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The
person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.

However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the
Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an
international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess
ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community
to organize it.

What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to
get involved?

Micru

 

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