This might be silly, but can you set it so that IPs and non-members can only
edit pages in the Talk: space or something? That would allow discussion to
occur around important issues while keeping the integrity of things like the
minutes and the constitution protected.
Of course as Angela said
2009/12/14 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com
If we hope to get more grassroots involvement in the chapter then IMO we
cannot force people to pay $40 and register an account before they can
engage in chapter activities. Volunteers should not be forced to pay money
to volunteer.
Why is it
'...As it is, three already busy committee members are the main
editors.'
cough cough !! ;-) (ps. I think Andrew's post sort of has cause and
effect a bit bassackwards ;-)
I see it this way - if engaging and growing membership is a priority then
lowering the bar for engagement is a good
:* Saturday, 12 December 2009 9:38 AM
*To:* Wikimedia-au
*Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
At the end of the day, and I think this is a point that isn't well
understood because we have a foot on both sides of the border, this is the
official wiki for a non profit organisation. The wiki's
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:15:35PM +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:57:02 +1100
Brian Salter-Duke b_d...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:09:58AM +1100, Peter Halasz wrote:
So lock those specific pages. Have you ever used Wikipedia? Do you
think it would
There has been a lot of discussion about the official wiki and who
should be able to edit it. This is in response to the whole debate, so I
have not kept any other comments.
This wiki is the official wiki. It is how we present ourselves, not just
to members, but to prospective members, to
It seems there are a variety of arguments that have now been put forward
against opening up editing to non-members:
* It's a member benefit - I think we all agree that this is no longer held
as a valid claim. IIRC this was the SOLE reason why we didn't have open
editing to start with, but no
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 02:05:42PM +1100, Liam Wyatt wrote:
It seems there are a variety of arguments that have now been put forward
against opening up editing to non-members:
* It's a member benefit - I think we all agree that this is no longer held
as a valid claim. IIRC this was the SOLE
2009/12/12 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com
Peter (Halasz), um... your last post is probably not helpful. I happen to
agree with you that it is a good idea to make the chapter Wiki more open to
editing. However, this is a discussion about the
validity/importance/appropriateness of doing so and
on this list, which is
essentially open to the public anyway.
Cheers,
Craig
From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2009 9:38 AM
To: Wikimedia-au
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
is
essentially open to the public anyway.
Cheers,
Craig
*From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Andrew
*Sent:* Saturday, 12 December 2009 9:38 AM
*To:* Wikimedia-au
*Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
I don't think it's a good idea to remove it - we want to get more member
participation happening in 2010, and there simply wasn't the scope for that
in 2009, hence why it wasn't utilised.
cheers
Andrew
2009/12/11 K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au
Yes it is possible to edit it, for details:
I too would like to see the chapter wiki being used more, especially for
planning IRL events.
Perhaps the issue is not so much that the Billabong isn't the right place
but that (as mentioned) it's not used by many people as yet - this is
largely a factor of the relatively low number of people who
Re planning activities - there doesn't seem much evidence of the meetup
pages being used for planning of any kind at present. Most of the meetup
pages are deadzones, with only Sydney having any recent editing activity
whatsoever (Melbourne and Canberra both show their August meetups as being
next
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/11 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com
One disadvantage of this would be that one of the promoted benefits of
membership (being able to edit
re : 'I though that Wikimedia is built on a philopsy of anyone can edit,
surely promoting that philopsy is the aim of the chapter. Wouldnt it be wise
for Wikimedia-Australia to hold that as corner stone of its purpose. Does
anyone think that the goals and ideals which we hold dear should not be
At the end of the day, and I think this is a point that isn't well
understood because we have a foot on both sides of the border, this is the
official wiki for a non profit organisation. The wiki's set up in such a way
that those that are willing to support the aims of the organisation can edit
(Note that my comments above are addressed to a hypothetical situation of
open editing, not the current situation which is manageable by any objective
standard.)
2009/12/12 Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com
At the end of the day, and I think this is a point that isn't well
understood because we
Here's my reasons for why ordinary people (i.e. non-members) just
might like to edit the site from the last time this discussion was
had:
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Lloyd Nguyen zero1...@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to ask, what kind of things could/would a non-member
edit on
That is called framing the question. Of course *that* kind of
participation would be unproblematic. But let's not forget the minutes,
resolutions and official activities of the chapter are hosted there, along
with our Statement of Purpose and etc. Like I said, as a non-profit
organisation we have
So lock those specific pages. Have you ever used Wikipedia? Do you
think it would exist if they were worried only about representation?
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I'm not sure why there's an assumption that edits by members are
trustworthy (and edits by others are not). Since anyone can become a
member, it's not reasonable to expect none of them will ever do
anything bad on the wiki. And you're going to have a problem blocking
them from the wiki if editing
Peter (Halasz), um... your last post is probably not helpful. I happen to
agree with you that it is a good idea to make the chapter Wiki more open to
editing. However, this is a discussion about the
validity/importance/appropriateness of doing so and making inflammatory
statements risks you
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