Re: [Wikimediaau-l] RCC 11 Canberra: We're on :)

2011-01-29 Thread Laura Hale
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Bidgee  wrote:

>  I wish I could have attended, as I was in Canberra on Friday and Saturday
> (though I left at 2pm) but I was there to get as many photos I possibly for
> Wikipedia articles.
>
> With the WiFi issue, was there an error showing up, connected to the WiFi
> but couldn't access the internet ect?
>

I'm not sure the exact problem.  I think it had to do with some sort of
security set up.  I've always had problems connecting to the wifi on campus
from my laptop (and my dongle) and I'm yeah... not sure the exact problem.
I'll try to do a bit more of a write up tomorrow.


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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] RCC 11 Canberra: We're on :)

2011-01-29 Thread Bidgee
I wish I could have attended, as I was in Canberra on Friday and 
Saturday (though I left at 2pm) but I was there to get as many photos I 
possibly for Wikipedia articles.


With the WiFi issue, was there an error showing up, connected to the 
WiFi but couldn't access the internet ect?


Bidgee

On 30/01/2011 6:57 AM, Laura Hale wrote:
I need to eventually try to integrate in various blog posts, pictures 
and videos into the wiki.  If anyone can help with that, we'd very 
much appreciate it.


Some of the issues that we've dealt with so far that have been 
interesting from an organizational point of view:


* wifi has been a problem.  Many people have not been able to get it 
to work.  This wouldn't be so bad except that the venue is also in a 
bit of a dead zone for 3G coverage.  (I think about 1/2 the people 
attending brought their own 3G dongles.)  I'm not quite sure how to 
fix this in terms of hosting the next RCC in 2012.  We'll have to hope 
the university can fix it.


* An education group attended and had their own break out session on 
Saturday.  This actually worked out pretty well.  It gave the people 
who needed and wanted a chance to network for that reason more of a 
reason to attend, to network, to learn about educational practices and 
gave them additional exposure to wikis.  They produced a high quality 
video related to their session.


* More people at RecentChangesCamp this time were probably less into 
wikis than RecentChangesCamps I had attended in Palo Alto and 
Portland.  This probably was a very good thing.  It helped provide a 
bit of a broader perspective and more insight into how wikis work and 
how wikis don't work.


* Wikimedia Australia was one of our sponsors.  They provided about 
$2,000 in airfare to bring Mark Dilley down to facilitate.  They also 
provided around $5,000 to help offset airfare for five or so 
attendees.  Their support in helping bring people together was 
invaluable.  Seriously so.  The people that came were not all 
Wikimedia Foundation users.  One is an Appropedian.  I believe another 
one was a WikiTravel person.  These voices were fantastic to hear.  
Beyond that, it was a great learning opportunity to better understand 
how the Wikimedia Australia works and what it is capable of doing.  
That Wikimedia Australia's scope is beyond just WMF projects and 
includes the greater Australian wiki community and collaborative 
projects is fantastic.  I can't say enough good things about Wikimedia 
Australia and the two people from the organization who attended.


* Some people appeared a bit concerned about the lack of structure 
prior to attending.  Once we got into the sessions and planning, these 
concerned appeared to melt away.  We might try a barn raising of some 
kind in one session but if it doesn't happen, it is perfectly okay.


* When we did the one day camp, people appeared less than satisfied 
with what they got out of it because things didn't go into the depth 
that they needed.  This three day session had that depth that people 
appeared to have craved.  (This could be a function of the difference 
in who attended both camps.)


* The social eating component appears to have been really important.  
We had a few people get together on Thursday night, a few people get 
together on Friday night, a barbecue last night.  This allowed people 
another chance to get to know everyone and unwind.  It might have been 
nice to try to do something like we had with the wikiHow party and 
invite more people, wiki people in Canberra who otherwise wouldn't be 
attending RecentChangesCamp to just show up for the food and 
socializing part.  It is something to consider in the future.


* Power points for plugs were pretty available.  At times, they were a 
little inconvenient because we had white board walls and that meant 
plugs were only on two sides of the room.


* White board walls?  The most fantastic thing ever!  Seriously 
awesome.  We had a session on why wikis don't work.  The people who 
had a session on wikis and facilitation got to see our notes from that 
session.  It created additional points for conversation.  It also 
meant that we weren't constrained to writing on blocks of paper.  It 
gave the whole camp more of a wiki feel because of those lack of 
limits.The notes on walls issue were great conversation starters.  
People took lots and lots of pictures of them.  The ability to write 
on the walls probably helped offset the annoyance over the lack of 
wifi and 3g.  (The physical space was one thing I really loved about 
this.  Yeah, each of the three places for sessions was in its own room 
and this isn't generally part of the whole concept of Open Space but 
it worked for who was there.)


* Many of people who attended were very much into Wikis as Wikimedia 
Foundation projects or who knew wikis from education.  This was 
interesting.  At past RecentChangesCamp, such people were clearly in 
the minority.  There were more interests from p