Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-23 Por tôpico Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Legal por ela ser ambiciosa e nos convidar a pensar grande. Espero que as
coisas dêem certo!

Sendo um bom wikimedista chato, apenas o ponto Because Wikimedia is the
place to transcend the now and to build the future. soou muito como puxar
sardinha para o mundo wiki apenas. A Wikipédia é revolucionária. O wiki é
apenas uma ferramenta.

Se a WMF continuar tão wiki-cêntrica (principalmente nas sua métricas)
continuará com uma comunidade cuja fixação será quem editou mais verbetes
ou reverteu mais vandalismo, o que nem sempre é o mais eficiente para as
pessoas terem acesso a recursos educacionais abertos de qualidade (ela não
mencionou isso, apesar de mencionar sobre aprendizado), um dos temas mais
importantes ao redor da Wikipédia, na minha opinião.

Tom


2014-06-23 0:00 GMT-03:00 Oona Castro oonacas...@gmail.com:

 Antigo já, mas só li hoje. Compartilhando


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 From: Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org
 Date: 3 June 2014 02:22
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond
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 A month ago, I met some of you for the first time at the WMF’s monthly
 metrics meeting. Officially, today is my first day as Executive Director of
 the Foundation. In practice, it’s a day like many others: Today and in the
 future, we’ll keep working together towards our mission.

 When I first started learning about Wikimedia, I thought to myself: this
 will be different. Now, seeing the world from within the information Big
 Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang, I know: it is.

 Every second the universe of information is expanding around us, and
 Wikimedia is a major force that turns this information into knowledge. It
 is beholden to no one, yet accountable to each and every human being. We,
 the people who create knowledge and bring it to every corner of the world,
 are the ones that help it expand. We, the people who read and learn, are
 the ones that hold the power to make this world a better place.

 I often speak about human experience. Most have understood this as talking
 about user experience: the way we access the information or contribute
 knowledge. You are — partially — right. But what I mean is bigger than
 that.

 What I am after is our connection to the world and each other through
 knowledge. What I’d like us to do is to think big. Think beyond ourselves.
 Think about humanity as a whole. Because you can. Because Wikimedia is the
 place to transcend the now and to build the future.

 This means that what’s ahead is bigger than any one of us. Yet, together,
 we can make it happen. It means thinking beyond ourselves. It means
 thinking as a student in Cambodia learning about Khmer poetry
 
 https://km.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%9E%80%E1%9F%92%E1%9E%9A%E1%9E%98%E1%9E%84%E1%9F%89%E1%9E%BB%E1%9E%99
 ,
 or a doctor in France writing about infectious diseases
 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maladies_infectieuses. This means empathy,
 altruism and compassion. It means making things accessible, friendly and
 easy for everyone.

 This is what makes Wikimedia big.

 This is what makes each of us bigger than we could ever be.

 This is the what. Our job, as the community and the Foundation, is to build
 the how. Where is the will, there is a way. We are here to walk it.

 Let’s think big.


 *Lila Tretikov https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LilaTretikov
 Executive
 Director*
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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-23 Por tôpico João
Palpiteiro profissional. Que vc entende disso?
Em 23/06/2014 18:05, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@okfn.org.br escreveu:

 Legal por ela ser ambiciosa e nos convidar a pensar grande. Espero que as
 coisas dêem certo!

 Sendo um bom wikimedista chato, apenas o ponto Because Wikimedia is the
 place to transcend the now and to build the future. soou muito como puxar
 sardinha para o mundo wiki apenas. A Wikipédia é revolucionária. O wiki é
 apenas uma ferramenta.

 Se a WMF continuar tão wiki-cêntrica (principalmente nas sua métricas)
 continuará com uma comunidade cuja fixação será quem editou mais verbetes
 ou reverteu mais vandalismo, o que nem sempre é o mais eficiente para as
 pessoas terem acesso a recursos educacionais abertos de qualidade (ela não
 mencionou isso, apesar de mencionar sobre aprendizado), um dos temas mais
 importantes ao redor da Wikipédia, na minha opinião.

 Tom


 2014-06-23 0:00 GMT-03:00 Oona Castro oonacas...@gmail.com:

 Antigo já, mas só li hoje. Compartilhando


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org
 Date: 3 June 2014 02:22
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond
 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


 A month ago, I met some of you for the first time at the WMF’s monthly
 metrics meeting. Officially, today is my first day as Executive Director
 of
 the Foundation. In practice, it’s a day like many others: Today and in the
 future, we’ll keep working together towards our mission.

 When I first started learning about Wikimedia, I thought to myself: this
 will be different. Now, seeing the world from within the information Big
 Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang, I know: it is.

 Every second the universe of information is expanding around us, and
 Wikimedia is a major force that turns this information into knowledge. It
 is beholden to no one, yet accountable to each and every human being. We,
 the people who create knowledge and bring it to every corner of the world,
 are the ones that help it expand. We, the people who read and learn, are
 the ones that hold the power to make this world a better place.

 I often speak about human experience. Most have understood this as talking
 about user experience: the way we access the information or contribute
 knowledge. You are — partially — right. But what I mean is bigger than
 that.

 What I am after is our connection to the world and each other through
 knowledge. What I’d like us to do is to think big. Think beyond ourselves.
 Think about humanity as a whole. Because you can. Because Wikimedia is the
 place to transcend the now and to build the future.

 This means that what’s ahead is bigger than any one of us. Yet, together,
 we can make it happen. It means thinking beyond ourselves. It means
 thinking as a student in Cambodia learning about Khmer poetry
 
 https://km.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%9E%80%E1%9F%92%E1%9E%9A%E1%9E%98%E1%9E%84%E1%9F%89%E1%9E%BB%E1%9E%99
 ,
 or a doctor in France writing about infectious diseases
 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maladies_infectieuses. This means
 empathy,
 altruism and compassion. It means making things accessible, friendly and
 easy for everyone.

 This is what makes Wikimedia big.

 This is what makes each of us bigger than we could ever be.

 This is the what. Our job, as the community and the Foundation, is to
 build
 the how. Where is the will, there is a way. We are here to walk it.

 Let’s think big.


 *Lila Tretikov https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LilaTretikov
 Executive
 Director*
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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-23 Por tôpico Luiz Augusto
Leitura de discurso: houve a preocupação de ser politicamente correta ao
falar de um movimento global, citando e linkando para três Wikipedias: a
maior de todas, a da língua poética (francês) e uma minoritária aleatória,
da Ásia.

Podia ser pior, podia ter ido no cliché de uma língua africana...

Ao menos na parte de dar atenção apenas ao projeto mais famoso e de marca
registrada mais valio$a,  parece que não existirão mudanças.

Ou seja, Commons seguirá ampliando apenas por ter a sorte de atender à
Wikipedia (efeito colateral),  Wikidata por iniciativa do capítulo da
Alemanha e Wikisource por ter voluntários acostumados a lidarem com
ausência de recursos em bibliotecas e arquivos e,  com isso, transporem os
mesmos esforços de mobilização para o projeto. Os demais seguirão no limbo
atual.

Não que o discurso dela não indique coisas interessantes, nem que não tenha
sido bom, mas quem esperava por algumas certas mudanças... rs
Em 23/06/2014 18:05, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@okfn.org.br escreveu:

 Legal por ela ser ambiciosa e nos convidar a pensar grande. Espero que as
 coisas dêem certo!

 Sendo um bom wikimedista chato, apenas o ponto Because Wikimedia is the
 place to transcend the now and to build the future. soou muito como puxar
 sardinha para o mundo wiki apenas. A Wikipédia é revolucionária. O wiki é
 apenas uma ferramenta.

 Se a WMF continuar tão wiki-cêntrica (principalmente nas sua métricas)
 continuará com uma comunidade cuja fixação será quem editou mais verbetes
 ou reverteu mais vandalismo, o que nem sempre é o mais eficiente para as
 pessoas terem acesso a recursos educacionais abertos de qualidade (ela não
 mencionou isso, apesar de mencionar sobre aprendizado), um dos temas mais
 importantes ao redor da Wikipédia, na minha opinião.

 Tom


 2014-06-23 0:00 GMT-03:00 Oona Castro oonacas...@gmail.com:

 Antigo já, mas só li hoje. Compartilhando


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org
 Date: 3 June 2014 02:22
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond
 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


 A month ago, I met some of you for the first time at the WMF’s monthly
 metrics meeting. Officially, today is my first day as Executive Director
 of
 the Foundation. In practice, it’s a day like many others: Today and in the
 future, we’ll keep working together towards our mission.

 When I first started learning about Wikimedia, I thought to myself: this
 will be different. Now, seeing the world from within the information Big
 Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang, I know: it is.

 Every second the universe of information is expanding around us, and
 Wikimedia is a major force that turns this information into knowledge. It
 is beholden to no one, yet accountable to each and every human being. We,
 the people who create knowledge and bring it to every corner of the world,
 are the ones that help it expand. We, the people who read and learn, are
 the ones that hold the power to make this world a better place.

 I often speak about human experience. Most have understood this as talking
 about user experience: the way we access the information or contribute
 knowledge. You are — partially — right. But what I mean is bigger than
 that.

 What I am after is our connection to the world and each other through
 knowledge. What I’d like us to do is to think big. Think beyond ourselves.
 Think about humanity as a whole. Because you can. Because Wikimedia is the
 place to transcend the now and to build the future.

 This means that what’s ahead is bigger than any one of us. Yet, together,
 we can make it happen. It means thinking beyond ourselves. It means
 thinking as a student in Cambodia learning about Khmer poetry
 
 https://km.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%9E%80%E1%9F%92%E1%9E%9A%E1%9E%98%E1%9E%84%E1%9F%89%E1%9E%BB%E1%9E%99
 ,
 or a doctor in France writing about infectious diseases
 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maladies_infectieuses. This means
 empathy,
 altruism and compassion. It means making things accessible, friendly and
 easy for everyone.

 This is what makes Wikimedia big.

 This is what makes each of us bigger than we could ever be.

 This is the what. Our job, as the community and the Foundation, is to
 build
 the how. Where is the will, there is a way. We are here to walk it.

 Let’s think big.


 *Lila Tretikov https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LilaTretikov
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 Director*
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[Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-22 Por tôpico Oona Castro
Antigo já, mas só li hoje. Compartilhando

-- Forwarded message --
From: Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org
Date: 3 June 2014 02:22
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond
To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


A month ago, I met some of you for the first time at the WMF’s monthly
metrics meeting. Officially, today is my first day as Executive Director of
the Foundation. In practice, it’s a day like many others: Today and in the
future, we’ll keep working together towards our mission.

When I first started learning about Wikimedia, I thought to myself: this
will be different. Now, seeing the world from within the information Big
Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang, I know: it is.

Every second the universe of information is expanding around us, and
Wikimedia is a major force that turns this information into knowledge. It
is beholden to no one, yet accountable to each and every human being. We,
the people who create knowledge and bring it to every corner of the world,
are the ones that help it expand. We, the people who read and learn, are
the ones that hold the power to make this world a better place.

I often speak about human experience. Most have understood this as talking
about user experience: the way we access the information or contribute
knowledge. You are — partially — right. But what I mean is bigger than that.

What I am after is our connection to the world and each other through
knowledge. What I’d like us to do is to think big. Think beyond ourselves.
Think about humanity as a whole. Because you can. Because Wikimedia is the
place to transcend the now and to build the future.

This means that what’s ahead is bigger than any one of us. Yet, together,
we can make it happen. It means thinking beyond ourselves. It means
thinking as a student in Cambodia learning about Khmer poetry

https://km.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%9E%80%E1%9F%92%E1%9E%9A%E1%9E%98%E1%9E%84%E1%9F%89%E1%9E%BB%E1%9E%99
,
or a doctor in France writing about infectious diseases
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maladies_infectieuses. This means empathy,
altruism and compassion. It means making things accessible, friendly and
easy for everyone.

This is what makes Wikimedia big.

This is what makes each of us bigger than we could ever be.

This is the what. Our job, as the community and the Foundation, is to build
the how. Where is the will, there is a way. We are here to walk it.

Let’s think big.


*Lila Tretikov https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LilaTretikovExecutive
Director*
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