[Wikimediach-l] Visual guidelines web site

2011-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
I would put the accent in the fact that the web site is completely independent 
from visual guidelines.

We have already visual guidelines:

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines

And we must respect them.

Probably someone has used a different name for a different aim.

So, we would not change the visual guidelines of WMF but probably found a look 
and feel which can be useful for the communication, but in any case this look 
and feel will be done in respect of the visual guidelines already in place.

Ilario



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Re: [Wikimediach-l] Visual guidelines web site

2011-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
On 13.03.2011 17:15, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
  We have already visual guidelines:
 
  http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines

This refers to the logo.

This is NOT a corporate design.

Btw. we are moving away from the original discussion. Emmanuel pointed 
out that there is no project management. This is still the fact.

Another fact is that I have discussed with the board several times and 
the conclusion was always that we need a new design. So that's my ground 
of this discussion, and that's what we have all agreed on both on the 
board and this mailinglist.

So where is the project plan?

What are selection criterias? How are we supposed to come to a decision 
by respecting all aspects of this project?

I am open for for suggestions.

/Manuel



 And we must respect them.

 Probably someone has used a different name for a different aim.

 So, we would not change the visual guidelines of WMF but probably found a 
 look and feel which can be useful for the communication, but in any case this 
 look and feel will be done in respect of the visual guidelines already in 
 place.

 Ilario



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Re: [Wikimediach-l] Visual guidelines web site

2011-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 13/03/2011 17:15, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
 I would put the accent in the fact that the web site is completely 
 independent from visual guidelines.

I think you mean we can speak from the visual guidelines without
speaking from the web site... but the opposite is wrong. That is the
reason why you have to have strong visual guidelines before making a
professional web site.

 We have already visual guidelines:
 
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines
 
 And we must respect them.

 Probably someone has used a different name for a different aim.
 
 So, we would not change the visual guidelines of WMF but probably found a 
 look and feel which can be useful for the communication, but in any case this 
 look and feel will be done in respect of the visual guidelines already in 
 place.

Yes, that means:
- developing a variation over the WMF guidelines.
- this will become the WMCH visual guidelines
- these guidelines has to be followed/implemented on all used media
*also the web site*.

Emmanuel



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Re: [Wikimediach-l] Visual guidelines web site

2011-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 13.03.2011 17:36, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote:
 Yes, that means:
 - developing a variation over the WMF guidelines.
 - this will become the WMCH visual guidelines
 - these guidelines has to be followed/implemented on all used media
 *also the web site*.

 Emmanuel

This means that we have visual guidelines (also if they doesn't cover 
all elements) and we can proceed with the web site.

These guidelines indicates:
a) color to be used
b) logos and trademark
c) fonts

This is not strange because we do what other chapters have done.

What I would put the accent is the communication and the message. In 
my opinion these guidelines are sufficient to give us the freedom to 
have a more communicative web site, now we can focus on the next (and 
more important) point.

Ilario


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Re: [Wikimediach-l] Visual guidelines web site

2011-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 13/03/2011 17:42, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
 On 13.03.2011 17:36, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote:
 Yes, that means:
 - developing a variation over the WMF guidelines.
 - this will become the WMCH visual guidelines
 - these guidelines has to be followed/implemented on all used media
 *also the web site*.

 Emmanuel

 This means that we have visual guidelines (also if they doesn't cover
 all elements) and we can proceed with the web site.
 
 These guidelines indicates:
 a) color to be used
 b) logos and trademark
 c) fonts
 
 This is not strange because we do what other chapters have done.
 
 What I would put the accent is the communication and the message. In
 my opinion these guidelines are sufficient to give us the freedom to
 have a more communicative web site, now we can focus on the next (and
 more important) point.

So WMCH visual guidelines are exactly the same as the foundation.
Not sure this this is the best approach to communicate on the swissness
(like written in on the wiki)... but why not.

Emmanuel



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Re: [Wikimediach-l] Visual guidelines web site

2011-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 13.03.2011 17:59, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote:

 So WMCH visual guidelines are exactly the same as the foundation.
 Not sure this this is the best approach to communicate on the swissness
 (like written in on the wiki)... but why not.

 Emmanuel


These are not the guidelines of foundation.

These are the guidelines issued by chapters, approved by WMF.

All chapters must follow them.

They are poor, but we don't start from scratch.

Ilario



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