[Wikimediaindia-l] Advice Help Sought: Potential Additions to the Community

2011-05-01 Thread Hisham Mundol
Hi All (cross-posting to make sure I reach as much of India as possible),

As you're aware, we had invited applications for Campus Ambassadors for the 
upcoming Pune Pilot of the India Campus Program.

The response has been fantastic: we've received ~500 applications/enquiries 
from across India, ~70 of which were from Pune.  This has been really 
heartening - indicating the desire of many to support the Wikimedia movement. 
It's also been overwhelming because we need to process all the applications, 
respond to applicants, etc.!

I think, most critically, it also presents an amazing opportunity for us to 
introduce new people to Wikimedia projects (especially Wikipedia) - and invite 
them to join the community.I've interviewed quite a few and there is a 
recurring theme I hear from many of them.  It goes something like, I've been 
using Wikipedia for years and years, and I love it.  I want to contribute back 
to it - but I wasn't sure how.  Then I saw the banner and decided this was a 
great way to help.  The overwhelming common trait I have noticed in the 
applicants is that they are bright, well-intentioned and eager to contribute.

Here are some thoughts I had, and I'd love to hear your suggestions/comments on 
these.

We should respond to every single applicant, and even to those who didn't 
actually apply but sent emails enquiries (such as When is the program coming 
to my city?, etc.)  No one should be left behind.

We will prioritise (in terms of sequence of events) the Pune Campus 
Ambassadors.  We need to have a reasonable number available for a training 
session that we need to conduct before the start of the program.  Of the 70 who 
applied from Pune, we should hopefully get 20-30 Campus Ambassadors.
 
The important suggestion I had for everyone else (in Pune and beyond) is that 
we do not reject anyone.   While some might not become Campus Ambassadors 
because we don't plan to run the program in their towns/cities right now, or 
some in Pune might not currently have the desired experience (in teaching and 
people management), there is no reason that they can't participate in some 
other roles.  Therefore, I don't think we should send any reject letters to 
anyone.  No one should be left behind.   Instead, we should send them options 
on how they can participate/learn more about participating.  For example:-

i) they could form student clubs in their respective educational 
establishments
ii) they could form Wikipedia clubs in their workplaces/social groups 
(as a number of applicants are working professionals, and no longer on campus)
iii) they could become individual editors

For us to try and help realise their potential, here are some thoughts I had:-

i) Invite all the applicants/enquirers to attend the next community 
meet-ups.   This was a suggestion shared by the Pune community. This would give 
them a chance to interact with the community and understand more about the 
movement/projects.
ii) Additionally, those who have not been selected as Campus 
Ambassadors can be reassured by telling them that they can join an incubation 
program.  This was a suggestion shared by the Pune community.  This would 
involve them attending meet-ups, learning how to edit, starting to edit 
- and being supported and hand-held along the way by existing community 
members.  This would help them if they eventually wish to reapply as Campus 
Ambassadors.  Even if they choose not to, they could easily  become 
individual newbie editors.
iii) Invite all applicants/enquirers in a town/city to attend a 
full-fledged Wiki Academy.  This was a suggestion shared by the Mumbai 
community.  This is currently envisaged as a full day session where they are 
given insights into the movement  projects,taught how to edit, 
and actually edit articles.
iv) In towns/cities where a full-fledged Wiki Academy is not viable 
(e.g. if there aren't enough numbers of either participants or 
volunteers/volunteer time to run a Wiki Academy), then an alternative 
suggestion is to have a smaller group (3-5) of the applicants  /enquirers 
linked up with a community member who can conduct smaller, shorter groups to 
explain how to edit and hand-hold them as they edit.

I'd really like to hear your views/comments/suggestions on the ideas listed 
here.  

Also, do let me know which of you would like to volunteer either to help 
conduct Wiki Academies (point (iii) above) or to manage smaller groups of 
potential newbies (point (iv) above).  Also, it'd be great if we could invite 
them to your next meet-ups at your respective towns/cities (point (i) above).

Another aspect I'd like to get suggestions from you on is how to manage the 
process of inviting them to these events.  We could, for example, share the 
contacts of these applicants with the respective communities could reach out 
and invite them.  Alternatively, if you wish this to be done for 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Advice Help Sought: Potential Additions to the Community

2011-05-01 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Hisham Mundol hmun...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Hi All (cross-posting to make sure I reach as much of India as possible),

 As you're aware, we had invited applications for Campus Ambassadors for the
 upcoming Pune Pilot of the India Campus Program.

 The response has been fantastic: we've received ~500 applications/enquiries
 from across India, ~70 of which were from Pune.  This has been really
 heartening - indicating the desire of many to support the Wikimedia
 movement. It's also been overwhelming because we need to process all the
 applications, respond to applicants, etc.!


 I think, most critically, it also presents an amazing opportunity for us to
 introduce new people to Wikimedia projects (especially Wikipedia) - and
 invite them to join the community.I've interviewed quite a few and there
 is a recurring theme I hear from many of them.  It goes something like,
 I've been using Wikipedia for years and years, and I love it.  I want to
 contribute back to it - but I wasn't sure how.  Then I saw the banner and
 decided this was a great way to help.  The overwhelming common trait I have
 noticed in the applicants is that they are bright, well-intentioned and
 eager to contribute.


I personally would like to see the nomenclature change: from 'campus
ambassadors' etc to 'Knowledge Facilitators', befitting by far two goals.
One is the democratisation of knowledge, core to this initiative, and the
other is the recognition of anyone of any age as a contributor (implicit in
Hisham's characterisation of 'no-one left behind').



 i) they could form student clubs in their respective educational
 establishments
 ii) they could form Wikipedia clubs in their workplaces/social groups (as a
 number of applicants are working professionals, and no longer on campus)
 iii) they could become individual editors


Each community, be it one based on educational establishments or any other,
could organise informal camps, which we could call wikiups, implying a
quickly put together 'camp', where a tiny group, 3 or 4 persons, could
collaborate on original contributions or editing. If such meetings could be
held on a weekly basis, then perhaps they could alternate between writing
and editing, to give each skill a good workout. I am emphasising the
importance of working in groups as a way forward from a concern expressed
some months back in our meeting in Mumbai, that many youngsters need a
helping hand to overcome the fear of failure - that translates into a
reluctance to take part - that is unfortunately instilled in much of our
school system.

Frequent regular meetings would also help build an impetus to attend some of
the additional work-focused suggestions, attending an 'Academy' session or
running 'incubation' programs. It would also lessen the disadvantage of not
being able to make it to some infrequently held local Wiki-meetups. It also
lends itself to the ease of adding a visiting 'trainer' who can create
lively sessions of tips and tricks.





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding SEO of the article

2011-05-01 Thread Gautam John
It's the second link when I search on Google for it.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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On 1 May 2011 11:58, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:
 Garuav,
 For an article created on the 25th of April, Youthsat
 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youthsat] is the Seventh Result on the First
 page of Google Search.
 Also, I NEVER said it is the first result.
 I merely said it is a First PAGE result.
 There is a difference between the two. --Regards,
 Srikanth R.


 On 1 May 2011 20:21, Gaurav Pruthi gaurav.pruth...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Srikanth ,
 Please look for the article Youthsat which I created some days ago . It
 doesn't appear as first search result while googling.
 However it is possible if you look for the string youthsat wiki . Please
 revert.
 On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gaurav,
 Trust me. Wikipedia articles become first page results within hours of
 creation. Images added to the Commons become first page images hours after
 they are added to an article.
 --Regards,
 Srikanth.

 On 1 May 2011 02:38, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Gaurav,

 There are 200+ factors for a page to rank in Google. So, please do not
 do any SEO writing. Just follow the Wikipedia manual of style and rest will
 be taken care automatically in course of time.

 Recommended reading:


 http://www.google.com/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf

 Ravi

 On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Gaurav Pruthi
 gaurav.pruth...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello ,
 Do we need to do some SEO for the articles which are created afresh
 since some articles created by me are not
 appearing as a first result while searching through google.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding SEO of the article

2011-05-01 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
It is Number 7 for me, on both Google India and Google.com
However, that is immaterial.
It is on Page 1. Full Stop.
Regards,
Srikanth.

On 1 May 2011 21:34, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 It's the second link when I search on Google for it.

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://social.prathambooks.org/




 On 1 May 2011 11:58, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:
  Garuav,
  For an article created on the 25th of April, Youthsat
  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youthsat] is the Seventh Result on the
 First
  page of Google Search.
  Also, I NEVER said it is the first result.
  I merely said it is a First PAGE result.
  There is a difference between the two. --Regards,
  Srikanth R.
 
 
  On 1 May 2011 20:21, Gaurav Pruthi gaurav.pruth...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello Srikanth ,
  Please look for the article Youthsat which I created some days ago .
 It
  doesn't appear as first search result while googling.
  However it is possible if you look for the string youthsat wiki .
 Please
  revert.
  On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
  rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Gaurav,
  Trust me. Wikipedia articles become first page results within hours of
  creation. Images added to the Commons become first page images hours
 after
  they are added to an article.
  --Regards,
  Srikanth.
 
  On 1 May 2011 02:38, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Gaurav,
 
  There are 200+ factors for a page to rank in Google. So, please do not
  do any SEO writing. Just follow the Wikipedia manual of style and rest
 will
  be taken care automatically in course of time.
 
  Recommended reading:
 
 
 
 http://www.google.com/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf
 
  Ravi
 
  On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Gaurav Pruthi
  gaurav.pruth...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello ,
  Do we need to do some SEO for the articles which are created afresh
  since some articles created by me are not
  appearing as a first result while searching through google.
 
 
   Thanks  With Regards ,
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Marathi language Wikipedia has reached 33, 333 articles on April 24.

2011-05-01 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Congratulations to all Marathi Wikipedians for this grand success. We have a
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