Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
Hey, I might be able to help you out identifying the work. What info do you need on these? On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Do we have an official contact with the National Museum, New Delhi? There are interesting documents there which could add valuable information to Wikipedia and Commons, but they are copyrighted. Could we get a permission? In addition, I need some help for identifying some images: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:King_and_his_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rama_and_the_monkey_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krishna_and_gopis,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Embroidery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sculpture,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pottery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg Thanks, Yann ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India Logo
Hiya, Thank you to everyone who voted for the WikiConference India Logo from the eight designs submitted. Design Six (Arvind Lodaya and Shekhar Krishnan) been chosen by the community and will be the new event logo. You can view the design here: http://entropyfree.com/~shekhar/lodaya_wc_02.png. Design One by Rajeshodayanchal was a close second. Our thanks to the above designers. Final Tally (ones that were voted for): Design One 4 Support, 1 Oppose Design Three 2 Support, 1 Oppose Design Six 5 Support, 1 Oppose Our Thanks to all those who took time out to create and submit designs as well as those who viewed all and voted for their choice. Kind Regards, ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
Yann, these images should be licensed as being in public domain as of now. How come you have claimed copyright? Warm regards, User:AshLin -- On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Do we have an official contact with the National Museum, New Delhi? There are interesting documents there which could add valuable information to Wikipedia and Commons, but they are copyrighted. Could we get a permission? In addition, I need some help for identifying some images: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:King_and_his_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rama_and_the_monkey_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krishna_and_gopis,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Embroidery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sculpture,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pottery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg Thanks, Yann ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
On 29 June 2011 15:00, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Yann, these images should be licensed as being in public domain as of now. How come you have claimed copyright? Because he took them? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
We have many people who scan images from books, etc. In those cases we give copyright as applicable, as public domain if they are old. Is the case different in case we take photos from art? Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 29 June 2011 15:00, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Yann, these images should be licensed as being in public domain as of now. How come you have claimed copyright? Because he took them? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
On 29 June 2011 15:15, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: We have many people who scan images from books, etc. In those cases we give copyright as applicable, as public domain if they are old. Is the case different in case we take photos from art? Very much! A picture of the Mona Lisa is copyrightable. Even if the painting of the Mona Lisa is out of copyright. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
HmmI guess the choice is personal here - copyrightable captures that well. And if a copyright is chosen, perhaps sweat of the brow reasoning applies? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_of_the_brow). anyways, the license chosen in this case is not restrictive. On 29-Jun-2011, at 11:46 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 29 June 2011 15:15, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: We have many people who scan images from books, etc. In those cases we give copyright as applicable, as public domain if they are old. Is the case different in case we take photos from art? Very much! A picture of the Mona Lisa is copyrightable. Even if the painting of the Mona Lisa is out of copyright. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
Hello, 2011/6/29 Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com: Yann, these images should be licensed as being in public domain as of now. How come you have claimed copyright? The policy is that photos of 3D work of art are copyritable. I changed the license for 2D work of art. Warm regards, User:AshLin Best regards, Yann ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
Hello, 2011/6/29 Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com: Hey, I might be able to help you out identifying the work. What info do you need on these? More complete description, date, etc. Thanks for your help, Yann On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Do we have an official contact with the National Museum, New Delhi? There are interesting documents there which could add valuable information to Wikipedia and Commons, but they are copyrighted. Could we get a permission? In addition, I need some help for identifying some images: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:King_and_his_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rama_and_the_monkey_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krishna_and_gopis,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Embroidery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sculpture,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pottery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg Thanks, Yann -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
Noopur, please clarify about the difference between a camera photograph and a scanned photograph. I am not clear how a photograph automatically gains the status of a work of art, unless this is a legal definition and is not meant to be analysed from an 'artistic' point of view. On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, 2011/6/29 Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com: Hey, I might be able to help you out identifying the work. What info do you need on these? More complete description, date, etc. Thanks for your help, Yann On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Do we have an official contact with the National Museum, New Delhi? There are interesting documents there which could add valuable information to Wikipedia and Commons, but they are copyrighted. Could we get a permission? In addition, I need some help for identifying some images: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:King_and_his_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rama_and_the_monkey_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krishna_and_gopis,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Embroidery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sculpture,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pottery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg Thanks, Yann -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
Hello, 2011/6/29 Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com: Hey, I might be able to help you out identifying the work. What info do you need on these? Here is an example with complete information: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vishnu_holding_lotus_flowers,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg Regards, Yann On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Do we have an official contact with the National Museum, New Delhi? There are interesting documents there which could add valuable information to Wikipedia and Commons, but they are copyrighted. Could we get a permission? In addition, I need some help for identifying some images: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:King_and_his_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rama_and_the_monkey_army,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krishna_and_gopis,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Embroidery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sculpture,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pottery,_National_Museum,_New_Delhi.jpg Thanks, Yann ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
On Wednesday 29 June 2011 03:16 PM, Gautam John wrote: Very much! A picture of the Mona Lisa is copyrightable. Even if the painting of the Mona Lisa is out of copyright. I normally would hold that this is so, and have done so for years. However, given the recent interpretations by the Delhi High Court of the Supreme Court decision in EBC v. Modak, I'm not so sure any more. I think it is now arguable that a plain photograph that is meant to merely be a representation of the underlying painting is not original, lacking skill and judgment (or modicum of creativity, based on which test you believe EBC v. Modak lays down as the test for 'originality').[1] I doubt any court would grant a scanner copyright over unedited scans. Regards, Pranesh [1]: While it is not arguable whether EBC v. Modak (INSC) lays down exercise of skill and judgment as the test for originality or modicum of creativity, it is very clear that it squarely rejects the older sweat of the brow test. -- Pranesh Prakash Programme Manager Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
On Wednesday 29 June 2011 03:20 PM, Vickram Crishna wrote: It's an interesting point. A photograph of a piece of art or heritage cannot logically* claim copyright, but what about a picture of a friend standing in front of said piece of art/heritage? That is, undoubtedly, copyrightable (and hence, copyrighted as per our law). -- Pranesh Prakash Programme Manager Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] National Museum, New Delhi
On 29 June 2011 17:49, Pranesh Prakash pran...@cis-india.org wrote: Very much! A picture of the Mona Lisa is copyrightable. Even if the painting of the Mona Lisa is out of copyright. I normally would hold that this is so, and have done so for years. However, given the recent interpretations by the Delhi High Court of the Supreme Court decision in EBC v. Modak, I'm not so sure any more. I stand corrected. Thanks Pranesh. So the answer is now It depends? :D I doubt any court would grant a scanner copyright over unedited scans. Agreed. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [PRESS] [Global Voices] India: the Future of Wikipedia
Cross-posting. -- Forwarded message -- From: Moka Pantages mpanta...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM Subject: [PRESS] [Global Voices] India: the Future of Wikipedia To: Communications Committee wmfc...@lists.wikimedia.org India: the Future of Wikipedia http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/06/30/india-the-future-of-wikipedia/ Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia, celebrated its tenth anniversary this year, and almost 100 cities and towns in India registered to host celebrations, the highest number of any country. Wikipedia is the fourth most popular website in India, and there are over 20 Wikipedia sites in Indian languages, with more on the way. The Wikimedia Foundation's India Chapter was recently established in Bangalore, to help coordinate the Indian language Wikipedia sites. This year the Foundation will open its first office outside the United States, in an Indian city as yet to be announced. Global Voices has spoken to Tinu Cherian, blogger, active Wikipedian and an administrator for the site, about Wikipedia in India. Tinu Cherian (photo reproduced with permission) Can you tell us a little about the Wikipedia community in India? The Wikipedian community in India is a nascent but one of the fastest growing user groups. Wikipedia and other sister projects enjoy top five website readership in India but the scale of editors and contributors to Wikimedia is relatively low compared to other countries. Thanks to being a favorite of popular search engines, and the lack of other such free knowledge sources, readership has never been a problem. Wikimeetups are real life gatherings or meetups of Wikipedians, which are now very popular in India. In Sep 2006, Jimmy Wales came to Bangalore and saw the first Wikimeetup in India. A Wikiconference at Chennai in 2007 generated lots of interest and enthusiasm but essentially couldn't keep the momentum. Since July 2009, we have started regular Wikimeetups in Bangalore, meeting at least once per month. Wikipedians in India now meet regularly in other cities like Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata, Pune and Hyderabad. The Wikimedia India Chapter was officially approved by the Foundation in 2010 and became a registered body in 2011. Over 95 cities and towns in India registered to host the 10th anniversary celebrations of Wikipedia in 2011, the largest among all countries. The Bangalore celebrations witnessed over 250 attendees for the one day programme. In 2010, the Wikimedia Foundation identified India as one of the strategic locations for development of Wikimedia and is close to setting up its first ever office outside the United States. Do you have a sense of how popular the Indian language sites are in comparison with the English site? Which are the largest Indian language sites? English Wikipedia was always the favorite and best-known Wikipedia in India but recently the awareness of Indic language Wikipedias has been on the rise. There are 20 Indic language Wikipedias already and another 20 are in an incubation state. Assamese, Punjabi, Nepali, Oriya (Odia) and Malayalam were the first Indian language Wikipedias to be started in 2002. Hindi, Tamil, Bengali and other languages were created in the next two years. There is a varied level of activity among the different language Wikipedias. Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu and Bengali have very active Wikipedia communities. Hindi has the largest number of articles which is set to cross the 1 lakh [100 000] articles milestone any time soon. We are now working on building the communities for the dormant Wikipedias by spreading awareness among the native speakers of those languages. Malayalam Wikipedia What about internet access – isn’t Wikipedia dependent on people having internet connections? Wikipedia is all about the sum total of human knowledge available to all mankind. Unfortunately, it was all web-based. Wikipedians are now making efforts to bring them to those who don't have access to the internet, by publishing offline versions of Wikipedia. Malayalam Wikipedia published the first offline CD of Wikipedia among the non-Latin script languages. Malayalam is also in the process of releasing the first Wikisource in any Indian language. You live in Bangalore, so we can probably guess the answer to the question: Mumbai, New Delhi or Bangalore? Which is the best location for the Wikimedia Foundation in India? As a true Bangalorean, personally, I would love to see the Wikimedia office in Bangalore. Bangalore has a vibrant Wiki community contributing to different language Wikipedias. Wikipedians in Bangalore meet regularly, at least once per month. Bangalore is also the seat of the Wikimedia India chapter. But for the growth of the pan-India Wikimedia movement, it is advisable to be Mumbai or Delhi. But it is entirely up to the Wikimedia Foundation to decide where they find it feasible and suitable. The foundation is now actively considering it in Delhi or the National Capital Region (NCR).
