Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 92 (Action Required)
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 01:58, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: Can somebody please set the mailing list to block such messages? Done, will update moderation for more spam as they come. Thanks Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia board election is going on...
Thank you, Naveen!-SJ On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Results are out ... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en Congrats new board members. Ting Chen (Wing), Samuel Klein (Sj) and Kat Walsh (mindspillage). On 31 May 2011 08:44, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Please check out... Board elections/2011/en - Meta -- Naveen Francis ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs
Dear all, It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60 years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term = life of the photographer + 60 years). So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age of 75 (in 2061): Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2037. Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122. The difference: 85 years! (I hope I've done the math correctly.) So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph to Wikipedia. As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this front by any photographers. No one has really asked for it. We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised this to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment. But the chairman of that committee did not take notice. In effect, the Standing Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working on the exception for persons with disabilities). Are people on this list concerned about this? If yes, then we all need to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session. Regards, Pranesh -- Pranesh Prakash Programme Manager Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs
WhereDevilsDare, rightly said, it is our money, the government is elected to represent the people. As a side note: This might be of interest to you: Flickr help states: *Note:* If your login ID is based in Singapore, Hong Kong, India, Korea or with Maktoob.com you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service (this means you won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off). If your login ID is based in Germany you are not able to view restricted content due to your local Terms of Service. Is the Government censoring stuff? I feel this could also affect Wikipedia and the Commons. Maybe this could be clubbed with the railways thing from the previous thread? --Regards, On 18 June 2011 22:10, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Very contentious issue Pranesh. The issue is not only this - but also to insure that any Indian government works be in public domain as well as that of a Public Servant when on duty (like in the US - after all it is OUR govenment and OUR money spent hiring that Public Servant!). Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:04:07 +0200 From: pran...@cis-india.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: aprabh...@gmail.com; su...@cis-india.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs Dear all, It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60 years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term = life of the photographer + 60 years). So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age of 75 (in 2061): Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2037. Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122. The difference: 85 years! (I hope I've done the math correctly.) So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph to Wikipedia. As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this front by any photographers. No one has really asked for it. We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised this to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment. But the chairman of that committee did not take notice. In effect, the Standing Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working on the exception for persons with disabilities). Are people on this list concerned about this? If yes, then we all need to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session. Regards, Pranesh -- Pranesh Prakash Programme Manager Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs
Dear all, I am well aware that there are other issues such as that of copyright over works by the government and public undertakings. We have raised this issue in our analysis[1] as well as our formal submission to the Parliamentary Standing Committee.[2] However, it is one thing to get something that is good (broad exception for government works / or even better: making government works public domain) which is not even on the table, and preventing an impending harm: decrease of the public domain in terms of Indian photographs. The first is a longer term goal than the second. Copyright term of photographs is going to increase if folks don't stand up against it. Regards, Pranesh [1]: Analysis: http://goo.gl/Iv69r [2]: Civil Society submission: http://goo.gl/9Ws3E / Analysis of Standing Committee's report: http://goo.gl/Fs5WM On Saturday 18 June 2011 06:40 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Very contentious issue Pranesh. The issue is not only this - but also to insure that any Indian government works be in public domain as well as that of a Public Servant when on duty (like in the US - after all it is OUR govenment and OUR money spent hiring that Public Servant!). Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:04:07 +0200 From: pran...@cis-india.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: aprabh...@gmail.com; su...@cis-india.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs Dear all, It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60 years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term = life of the photographer + 60 years). So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age of 75 (in 2061): Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2037. Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122. The difference: 85 years! (I hope I've done the math correctly.) So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph to Wikipedia. As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this front by any photographers. No one has really asked for it. We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised this to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment. But the chairman of that committee did not take notice. In effect, the Standing Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working on the exception for persons with disabilities). Are people on this list concerned about this? If yes, then we all need to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session. Regards, Pranesh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pranesh Prakash Programme Manager Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs
Pranesh: Do you have a form letter we could use, please? Something that we could each sign, individually, and send? To whom? By when? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 18 June 2011 23:05, Pranesh Prakash pran...@cis-india.org wrote: Dear all, I am well aware that there are other issues such as that of copyright over works by the government and public undertakings. We have raised this issue in our analysis[1] as well as our formal submission to the Parliamentary Standing Committee.[2] However, it is one thing to get something that is good (broad exception for government works / or even better: making government works public domain) which is not even on the table, and preventing an impending harm: decrease of the public domain in terms of Indian photographs. The first is a longer term goal than the second. Copyright term of photographs is going to increase if folks don't stand up against it. Regards, Pranesh [1]: Analysis: http://goo.gl/Iv69r [2]: Civil Society submission: http://goo.gl/9Ws3E / Analysis of Standing Committee's report: http://goo.gl/Fs5WM On Saturday 18 June 2011 06:40 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Very contentious issue Pranesh. The issue is not only this - but also to insure that any Indian government works be in public domain as well as that of a Public Servant when on duty (like in the US - after all it is OUR govenment and OUR money spent hiring that Public Servant!). Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:04:07 +0200 From: pran...@cis-india.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: aprabh...@gmail.com; su...@cis-india.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs Dear all, It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60 years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term = life of the photographer + 60 years). So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age of 75 (in 2061): Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2037. Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122. The difference: 85 years! (I hope I've done the math correctly.) So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph to Wikipedia. As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this front by any photographers. No one has really asked for it. We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised this to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment. But the chairman of that committee did not take notice. In effect, the Standing Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working on the exception for persons with disabilities). Are people on this list concerned about this? If yes, then we all need to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session. Regards, Pranesh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pranesh Prakash Programme Manager Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs
Pranesh, Gautham, By any chance, can we create a Petition about this ? --Regards, On 18 June 2011 23:23, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: Pranesh: Do you have a form letter we could use, please? Something that we could each sign, individually, and send? To whom? By when? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 18 June 2011 23:05, Pranesh Prakash pran...@cis-india.org wrote: Dear all, I am well aware that there are other issues such as that of copyright over works by the government and public undertakings. We have raised this issue in our analysis[1] as well as our formal submission to the Parliamentary Standing Committee.[2] However, it is one thing to get something that is good (broad exception for government works / or even better: making government works public domain) which is not even on the table, and preventing an impending harm: decrease of the public domain in terms of Indian photographs. The first is a longer term goal than the second. Copyright term of photographs is going to increase if folks don't stand up against it. Regards, Pranesh [1]: Analysis: http://goo.gl/Iv69r [2]: Civil Society submission: http://goo.gl/9Ws3E / Analysis of Standing Committee's report: http://goo.gl/Fs5WM On Saturday 18 June 2011 06:40 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Very contentious issue Pranesh. The issue is not only this - but also to insure that any Indian government works be in public domain as well as that of a Public Servant when on duty (like in the US - after all it is OUR govenment and OUR money spent hiring that Public Servant!). Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:04:07 +0200 From: pran...@cis-india.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: aprabh...@gmail.com; su...@cis-india.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs Dear all, It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60 years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term = life of the photographer + 60 years). So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age of 75 (in 2061): Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2037. Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122. The difference: 85 years! (I hope I've done the math correctly.) So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph to Wikipedia. As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this front by any photographers. No one has really asked for it. We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised this to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment. But the chairman of that committee did not take notice. In effect, the Standing Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working on the exception for persons with disabilities). Are people on this list concerned about this? If yes, then we all need to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session. Regards, Pranesh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pranesh Prakash Programme Manager Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
