[Wikimediaindia-l] Sharing insights and experiences from Indian language wiki communities - Malayalam
Dear All, As part of my discussions with Indic language Wikipedians I spoke with few Malayalam wikimedians also. Malayalam wikimedians spoke about their editing experiences, their vision about ml wiki projects, and other related topics. I have summarized the discussions in meta wiki. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages/Malayalam/Discussions/2011 Malayalam with more than 3.5 crore speakers is one of the 22 scheduled languages of India. Malayalam is primarily spoken in the Indian state of Kerala. There are some very interesting features of Kerala, from a Wikimedia perspective. It has amongst the highest rates of literacy in the country. It also has a (relatively) high Internet reach. Unlike most states, there is (relatively) lower urban rural divide in Kerala. In fact, the term rurban is sometimes used to refer to the state. I have been personally associated with Malayalam Wikipedia for the past 5 years and it has been a labour of love for me. Along the way, I have seen this community growing from just 3 active editors to more than 90 active editors now. There are 2 particularly compelling chapters in the Malayalam Wikimedia story. The first is the huge importance and concerted efforts made for the community development. Personally, I think community development is the single most important aspect for the growth of Indic wikimedia projects and it is inspiring to see how this community has adopted it. Another really noteworthy feature is the efforts made to retain existing editors. Malayalam Wikimedia has done this very successfully by starting interesting Wikiprojects on specific subject areas. Personally I had associated with lot of ml wiki outreach activities. When I looked at the statistics recently, I found community had conducted more than 20 wiki workshops across 14 districts of Kerala. Then offline CD release, photo events, numerous non-offfical wiki workshops that are happening as part of blog meetings, introducing ml wiki projects during the meeting of various social organizations, there are so many things happening around. The involvement of government organizations and social organizations is another noteworthy thing. The activism in sister projects (Wikisource, wiktionary, and Wikiquotes) is also noteworthy. I have seen sister projects (especially wikisource) getting more attention than wikipedia and school students are involved in adding content to wikisource. Malayalam wikimedians have achieved a lot and there are lessons for the other indic language communities from what the community had done. However, there is so so much that still needs to be done to build the community, improve the quality and size of articles, and increase the reach of ml wiki projects. Kindly read the experience of Malayalam Wikimedians at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages/Malayalam/Discussions/2011 Regards Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: [Foundation-l] WP being edited by lobbying firm
High time people realised that Marketing and Wikimedia don't go together. On 06/12/2011, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe Srikanth R mentioned this a few days ago on the India list. From: bodnot...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:14:26 + To: foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] WP being edited by lobbying firm Hello, Hardly surprising or new, but something we need to be aware of: Wikipedia is being edited by a large lobbying company, Bell Pottinger. It removes negative coverage of its clients: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/caught-on-camera-top-lobbyists-boasting-how-they-influence-the-pm-6272760.html Bodnotbod ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: fyi Original Message Subject:Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much more than images. If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if such a thing happens. There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does not arise for us to take those tough calls. PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high SNR IMO. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
How will it hurt WP most than FB or TWIT? *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 7 December 2011 16:04, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote: This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: fyi Original Message Subject:Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much more than images. If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if such a thing happens. There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does not arise for us to take those tough calls. PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high SNR IMO. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* : Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-cant-censor-the-internet/articleshow/11018330.cms *Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. * * * *3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like Kapil Sibal, which have been locked due to vandalism!). * * * *If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it.* Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: fyi Original Message Subject:Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much more than images. If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if such a thing happens. There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does not arise for us to take those tough calls. PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high SNR IMO. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
+ 1 *Times of India : Twitter, Facebook users target Sibal* http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/social-media/Twitter-Facebook-users-target-Sibal/articleshow/11018300.cms *Sibal's Wikipedia profile was edited 21 times by web users and activists on Tuesday . His profile was locked later in the evening due to a large amount of web activists trying to edit simultaneously, describing him in unkind words*. -TC On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* : Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-cant-censor-the-internet/articleshow/11018330.cms *Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. * * * *3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like Kapil Sibal, which have been locked due to vandalism!). * * * *If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it. * Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: fyi Original Message Subject:Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much more than images. If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if such a thing happens. There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does not arise for us to take those tough calls. PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high SNR IMO. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case? On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* : Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-cant-censor-the-internet/articleshow/11018330.cms *Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. * * * *3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like Kapil Sibal, which have been locked due to vandalism!). * * * *If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it. * Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: fyi Original Message Subject:Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much more than images. If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if such a thing happens. There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does not arise for us to take those tough calls. PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high SNR IMO. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 17:20, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. Adding idiot in the lead section describing him is certainly vandalism. Infact the surprising and best thing was the anon vandalism was reverted by IP editors. I requested a 2 day semi protection since it might be highly accessed page and there might be more vandals around. Tinu went ahead and gave it 1 week semi protection. :) Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case? No, Please add to the controversy subsection and improve it with proper references, those will not be vandalism. But one needs to be autoconfirmed user to edit this week. More reasons to create an account and start editing :) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
Adding Kapil Sibal is an idiot on the Wikipedia article is vandalism http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibalaction=historysubmitdiff=464355055oldid=464353638 Addling verifiable facts is acceptable ( including controversies and criticism http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibalaction=historysubmitdiff=464367647oldid=464366606 Hope I clarified the difference. Regards Tinu Cherian P.S. On a lighter note, Please feel to add Kapil Sibal is an idiot , if you can provide/prove that with Verifiable references from Reliable Sources :) On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case? On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* : Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-cant-censor-the-internet/articleshow/11018330.cms *Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. * * * *3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like Kapil Sibal, which have been locked due to vandalism!). * * * *If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it.* Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: fyi Original Message Subject:Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much more than images. If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if such a thing happens. There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does not arise for us to take those tough calls. PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high SNR IMO. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Kolkata Photo Walk (Esplanade Dalhousie)
Hi, The event page created here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Kolkata On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Kalyan Sarkar kalyan.sar...@gmail.comwrote: Folks, We are organizing a Photo Walk in Kolkata on 18th December 2011 (Sunday) morning. We'll cover the central business districts of Dalhousie (B.B.D.Bag) and Esplanade (Dharmatala). Everyone is welcome to the event. We are still finalizing the list of buildings and architectures that we would like to cover. Therefore, any suggestions regarding the event are welcome. Thanks and regards, Kalyan Sarkar On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: Good luck on this wonderful initiative, folks. It would be fantastic to have many more good images of your fascinating city! fyi: you might want to put this up on the India mailing list as well - because some folks might be on that list but not on the West Bengal list. Warm Regards, hisham On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Biswarup Ganguly wrote: Dear Kalyan, Thank you for a much hoped and encouraging proposal for the ‘Photowalk’! The Commons needs more good quality photographs of Kolkata. I welcome to Mr. Rangan Datta, the list of the heritage buildings that given by him is really useful to us. May i re-propose with the following points: 1. It is open to all, Wikimedians or non-wikimedians, anybody can participate with camera or without camera. 2. We will meet at the CSTC bus stand of Esplanade, Kolkata at sharp 6:55 am on 18th December, 2011. 3. After having a cup of tea we will start to north up to Victoria building, then turn left towards Dalhousie area up to Strand road, then Aakasbani Bhaban and return to Chittada’s tea shop to have tea again with snacks. Total time required is about 2.5 to 3 hours. 4. I suggest please bring a note book and pen to write down the details of whatever (s)he photographed for uploading purpose. 5. There will not be any subject bar. 6. We encourage uploading to Commons, but it is optional. 7. Please see the general guidelines at Wikimedia Commons:Image guidelines: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Quality_images_guidelines Wth regards. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Kalyan Sarkar kalyan.sar...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Let me introduce you to Rangan Datta, the renowned travel photographer, whose travelogues are a regular feature in the columns of The Telegraph, Hindustan Times and other dailies. He would be joining us at the Kolkata Photo Walk on 18th December 2011 (Sunday). He has suggested below, a list of buildings that we can cover along with some important tips. Biswarup da, As discussed, would you kindly send the schedule and route map that you intend to propose? Let us make this Photo Walk a grand success! Thanks and regards, Kalyan Sarkar On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Rangan Datta rangan_da...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Kalyan and othe wikipedia Calcutta members Here is a list of buildings to be photographed: 1. Metropolitan Building* 2. Victoria House 3. Statesman House 4. Tipu Sultan Mosque* 5. Defence East India Headquarters 6. Raj Bhavan 7. Junior Staff quaters of Raj Bhavan. 8. National Assurance Building 9. Currency Building* 10. Central Telegraph Office. 11. St John's Church 12. Town Hall 13. High Court 14. Metcalf Hall* 15. GPO 16. Calcutta Collectorate 17. Eastern Rail Headquaters 18. Writer's Building (there is restriction) 19. St Andrew's Church 20. Lal Bazar 21. Beth el Synagogue 22. Magen David Synagogue 23. Portuguese Church 24. Armenian Church The ones marked with * are best photographed in the afternoon. This list is not exhaustive, Some related links from my website Blog - Calcutta Architecture http://rangan-datta.info/photo/thumbs.php?gallery=26 - St. John's Church http://rangan-datta.info/photo/thumbs.php?gallery=41 - Links from my Blog http://rangandatta.wordpress.com/tag/calcutta-heritage-building/ I think we should restrict ourselves to outdoor shots only. Apart fro St. John's Church we need we ned permision to shoot the interiors of other buildings. Looking forward for the photowalk. Regards Rangan -- Biswarup Ganguly Phones: +919830022449 +919433005886 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-in-wb/attachments/20111207/1d89ce37/attachment.htm ___ Wikimedia-in-WB mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-wb
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media
Adding Kapil Sibal is an idiot is definitely vandalism, but saying 1000s of Twitter users and internet activists described him as an idiot with a citation to back it up is not. ;-) On 07/12/2011, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Adding Kapil Sibal is an idiot on the Wikipedia article is vandalism http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibalaction=historysubmitdiff=464355055oldid=464353638 Addling verifiable facts is acceptable ( including controversies and criticism http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibalaction=historysubmitdiff=464367647oldid=464366606 Hope I clarified the difference. Regards Tinu Cherian P.S. On a lighter note, Please feel to add Kapil Sibal is an idiot , if you can provide/prove that with Verifiable references from Reliable Sources :) On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case? On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* : Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-cant-censor-the-internet/articleshow/11018330.cms *Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. * * * *3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like Kapil Sibal, which have been locked due to vandalism!). * * * *If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it.* Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: fyi Original Message Subject:Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much more than images. If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if such a thing happens. There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does not arise for us to take those tough calls. PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high SNR IMO. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Kolkata Photo Walk (Esplanade Dalhousie)
Might I suggest that such pages be created on Meta rather than on the English Wikipedia? On 07/12/2011, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The event page created here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Kolkata On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Kalyan Sarkar kalyan.sar...@gmail.comwrote: Folks, We are organizing a Photo Walk in Kolkata on 18th December 2011 (Sunday) morning. We'll cover the central business districts of Dalhousie (B.B.D.Bag) and Esplanade (Dharmatala). Everyone is welcome to the event. We are still finalizing the list of buildings and architectures that we would like to cover. Therefore, any suggestions regarding the event are welcome. Thanks and regards, Kalyan Sarkar On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: Good luck on this wonderful initiative, folks. It would be fantastic to have many more good images of your fascinating city! fyi: you might want to put this up on the India mailing list as well - because some folks might be on that list but not on the West Bengal list. Warm Regards, hisham On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Biswarup Ganguly wrote: Dear Kalyan, Thank you for a much hoped and encouraging proposal for the ‘Photowalk’! The Commons needs more good quality photographs of Kolkata. I welcome to Mr. Rangan Datta, the list of the heritage buildings that given by him is really useful to us. May i re-propose with the following points: 1. It is open to all, Wikimedians or non-wikimedians, anybody can participate with camera or without camera. 2. We will meet at the CSTC bus stand of Esplanade, Kolkata at sharp 6:55 am on 18th December, 2011. 3. After having a cup of tea we will start to north up to Victoria building, then turn left towards Dalhousie area up to Strand road, then Aakasbani Bhaban and return to Chittada’s tea shop to have tea again with snacks. Total time required is about 2.5 to 3 hours. 4. I suggest please bring a note book and pen to write down the details of whatever (s)he photographed for uploading purpose. 5. There will not be any subject bar. 6. We encourage uploading to Commons, but it is optional. 7. Please see the general guidelines at Wikimedia Commons:Image guidelines: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Quality_images_guidelines Wth regards. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Kalyan Sarkar kalyan.sar...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Let me introduce you to Rangan Datta, the renowned travel photographer, whose travelogues are a regular feature in the columns of The Telegraph, Hindustan Times and other dailies. He would be joining us at the Kolkata Photo Walk on 18th December 2011 (Sunday). He has suggested below, a list of buildings that we can cover along with some important tips. Biswarup da, As discussed, would you kindly send the schedule and route map that you intend to propose? Let us make this Photo Walk a grand success! Thanks and regards, Kalyan Sarkar On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Rangan Datta rangan_da...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Kalyan and othe wikipedia Calcutta members Here is a list of buildings to be photographed: 1. Metropolitan Building* 2. Victoria House 3. Statesman House 4. Tipu Sultan Mosque* 5. Defence East India Headquarters 6. Raj Bhavan 7. Junior Staff quaters of Raj Bhavan. 8. National Assurance Building 9. Currency Building* 10. Central Telegraph Office. 11. St John's Church 12. Town Hall 13. High Court 14. Metcalf Hall* 15. GPO 16. Calcutta Collectorate 17. Eastern Rail Headquaters 18. Writer's Building (there is restriction) 19. St Andrew's Church 20. Lal Bazar 21. Beth el Synagogue 22. Magen David Synagogue 23. Portuguese Church 24. Armenian Church The ones marked with * are best photographed in the afternoon. This list is not exhaustive, Some related links from my website Blog - Calcutta Architecture http://rangan-datta.info/photo/thumbs.php?gallery=26 - St. John's Church http://rangan-datta.info/photo/thumbs.php?gallery=41 - Links from my Blog http://rangandatta.wordpress.com/tag/calcutta-heritage-building/ I think we should restrict ourselves to outdoor shots only. Apart fro St. John's Church we need we ned permision to shoot the interiors of other buildings. Looking forward for the photowalk. Regards Rangan -- Biswarup Ganguly Phones: +919830022449 +919433005886 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-in-wb/attachments/20111207/1d89ce37/attachment.htm
[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy @ Jaya Engineering College
Hi all, We are conducting Wiki Academy at Jaya Engineering Collegehttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/Jaya_Engineering_College on Dec 2, 2011, Saturday. We request you to join the academy if you are located in and around Chennai. General information on Wiki Academy is available @ http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_**Academyhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Behind_a_WikiAcademy Kindly contact @ psubhash...@wikimedia.in psubhash...@wikimedia.in for any other details. Thanks Subha ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
