Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Workshop - LD Engineering College - 24 April 2012 - Report
Hi Konark, Thanks to Anirudh for nudging me out my long reverie, shortly to be continued. :) Congrats on a great outreach a good report. In the debate of reaching out to newbies versus preserving the scarce effort of volunteers, there is no universal side to the issue. Where participants are generally keen, reaching out to newbies may pay off, but in many cases, people just come to learn something new and not take up new pastimes. I suppose it will be a judgement call to make. I'm sure listening now. What kind of help and guidance are you looking for? What ideas do you wish to implement? If they are English Wikipedia specific, you may like to shift the discussion over there, else continue this thread here. Eager to know more. Ashwin On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Sorry sorry, Haste makes waste this applies here. Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 00:28:02 +0530 From: konarak...@live.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org, wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi all, There have been numerous outreach sessions organized all across India, so we decided to organize a WikiWorkshop of our own in Ahmedabad. :) We decided on the Electronics and Communication Engineering department at LD Engineering College as the venue a couple of weeks earlier. This was mainly because Harsh was confident that we would be able to obtain all the permissions to use a classroom in time. The date was pretty convenient since it was a state-wide holiday due to Parshuram Jayanti. We had also invited Hisham to be a part of the event during Office hours on 19 April 2012. Hisham accepted our invitation to fly in and help us conduct the workshop. Nitika followed up with the presentations and offered to help us with event planning. Arnav Sonara, a Gujarati and English Wikipedia volunteer translated parts of Nitika’s presentation into the Gujarati language. We received confirmation of participation from 42 students through a Google Docs based sign up page created by me. This was very heartening and we expected at least half of the students to actually turn up for the event. ;) Hisham landed in Ahmedabad at 8.40am and was available at the venue around 9.30am. Anirudh and I joined in later. Hisham guided Harsh and I through the presentation he was carrying so that Harsh could use them later for future workshops in the city. The time period before the scheduled time for the session was spent discussing ideas with regard to the purpose and objectives of outreach. Hisham opined that it is important to keep pursuing the newbies after they attend outreach sessions and workshops, while Anirudh said that was probably not the best use of scarce volunteer time, which could be better spent contributing to the projects themselves, and helping those editors who approach the veteran contributors on their own accord. We are interested in learning from the follow-up work that the WMF India team has done with regard to the programs it has run in the past and its direct success with the recruitment of new editors. We hope this will start a useful discussion. Seventeen people turned up for the workshop. This included Vyom Majmudar, a veteran Gujarati Wikipedia and a frequent Wikisource editor and Karthik Mistry, a Debian geek and FOSS advocate. I commenced the session by introducing Hisham to the participants. Hisham then began with his presentation. The agenda of this workshop was to acquaint the participants basics of Wikipedia editing - five pillars, notability guidelines, followed by a short editing session. Hisham guided the participants through the first four pillars of Wikipedia but did not speak about the fifth pillar ([[WP:IAR|There are no firm rules on Wikipedia]]). He told me that it would be a bit too advanced for new editors to understand, and then asked to explain it to the participants. Anirudh also elaborated on the third pillar of Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is free content]]) that Wikipedia not only provides content free of charge, but that the users of the website are free to edit, use, modify and distribute the content. Free as in free beer, and free as in free speech and free markets. :) After the presentation was concluded, eleven people stayed back in the workshop out of which five were completely new to editing. We edited both the English and Gujarati Wikipedia projects. [[w:gu:User:Shaildve]] created three stubs while being guided by Vyom. [[User:Chirayu.Chiripal]], who, by the way, does not speak Gujarati, has started contributing to Gujarati Wikipedia by making templates. \m/ The City Bhaskar covered the story on the workshop.[1][2] Many thanks to Noopur Raval for connecting us with the journalist. Overall, we think there is scope for improvement in the way we present Wikimedia projects to new users.
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?
Hi, One of my friend also reported seeing Ads of Jabong on Wikipedia. Some extension in the user's browser is most likely the source of injection for such Ads. Finding out which extension(s) does this will be in good interest of everyone. On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote: One can also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Readers#Why_do_I_see_commercial_ads_at_Wikipedia.3F for clarification. Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 23:09, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Business Insider gave a $5bn valuation to Wikipedia in 2010. So yeah, that's a big market for spammers. anirudh On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Ramesh N G rames...@gmail.com wrote: I was really amazed on the discussion on the ads on the wikipedia. Looking at the snapshot, it could really some virus or adware. Even this should not be the way the ads come to Wikipedia, though I personally never will support this. I strongly recommend the user to scan the PC for a virus, change browser and check. Also seen some discussion where multiple people has reported this issue. This means that Wikipedia being targeted by Viruses now! User:Rameshng On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Could be, but it wouldn't hurt to do a scan of your system and find out if anything is wrong with it. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not the techie here, but I don't think its a malware on a system per se. Reason being being, two different people have experienced it, same ad also from different IP's, different locations though. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely Adware/Malware/Spyware/etc. Notice in the Screenshot, it says Ads Not By This Site. It should've been a clue. Do scan your system with a good antivirus [Free or paid doesn't matter]. If your system is infected by anything, your data might be at risk. --Cheers, On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw that screenshot and remembered, even my friend said, it was by the same site, inkfruit. Some common issue?? On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone. I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to you guys on this. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese wikipedia is here: http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=ensl=ptu=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDAsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=5ved=0CE4Q7gEwBAprev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). Here is a link to a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to check through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not visible to him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, there is some text that says, ads not by this site. I've taken a quick look through the page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His right-click menu does not appear when he right-clicks on the ad. He is based out of Mumbai and ISP is Tata Teleservices Maharashtra Ltd. His IP address is 114.143.88.193 (or was, while he accessed this page; I've since had him change his IP address since I'm sharing this one). I'm not sure if this issue is restricted to Mumbai; since the IP address shows up in Pune when I try to geolocate it (though I understand this is fairly common). The link he is directed to when he clicks the ad is this: http://www.inkfruit.com/combo-landing?utm_source=CMP1002Comboutm_medium=CPMutm_content=combobannerutm_campaign=Combo. I'm adding this here and copying the founder of Inkfruit since the campaign data in the URL
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?
Hi Nischay, We're looking into this one. If your friend can spot the extension and send us relevant code, it would be helpful. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM, nischay nahata nischay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend also reported seeing Ads of Jabong on Wikipedia. Some extension in the user's browser is most likely the source of injection for such Ads. Finding out which extension(s) does this will be in good interest of everyone. On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: One can also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Readers#Why_do_I_see_commercial_ads_at_Wikipedia.3F for clarification. Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 23:09, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: Business Insider gave a $5bn valuation to Wikipedia in 2010. So yeah, that's a big market for spammers. anirudh On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Ramesh N G rames...@gmail.com wrote: I was really amazed on the discussion on the ads on the wikipedia. Looking at the snapshot, it could really some virus or adware. Even this should not be the way the ads come to Wikipedia, though I personally never will support this. I strongly recommend the user to scan the PC for a virus, change browser and check. Also seen some discussion where multiple people has reported this issue. This means that Wikipedia being targeted by Viruses now! User:Rameshng On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Could be, but it wouldn't hurt to do a scan of your system and find out if anything is wrong with it. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not the techie here, but I don't think its a malware on a system per se. Reason being being, two different people have experienced it, same ad also from different IP's, different locations though. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely Adware/Malware/Spyware/etc. Notice in the Screenshot, it says Ads Not By This Site. It should've been a clue. Do scan your system with a good antivirus [Free or paid doesn't matter]. If your system is infected by anything, your data might be at risk. --Cheers, On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw that screenshot and remembered, even my friend said, it was by the same site, inkfruit. Some common issue?? On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone. I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to you guys on this. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese wikipedia is here: http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=ensl=ptu=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDAsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=5ved=0CE4Q7gEwBAprev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). Here is a link to a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to check through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not visible to him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, there is some text that says, ads not by this site. I've taken a quick look through the page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His right-click menu does not appear when he right-clicks on the ad. He is based out of Mumbai and ISP is Tata Teleservices Maharashtra Ltd. His IP address is 114.143.88.193 (or was, while he accessed this page; I've since had him change his IP address since I'm sharing this one). I'm not sure if this issue is restricted to Mumbai; since the IP address shows up
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?
Hi Philippe, I would personally try to find out the extension and look into the HTML code it plays with but that will take a while (I am busy for few days and we have to see if the Ad shows up again). I will reply back in this thread as soon as I have something that can help. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi Nischay, We're looking into this one. If your friend can spot the extension and send us relevant code, it would be helpful. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM, nischay nahata nischay...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, One of my friend also reported seeing Ads of Jabong on Wikipedia. Some extension in the user's browser is most likely the source of injection for such Ads. Finding out which extension(s) does this will be in good interest of everyone. On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: One can also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Readers#Why_do_I_see_commercial_ads_at_Wikipedia.3F for clarification. Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 23:09, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: Business Insider gave a $5bn valuation to Wikipedia in 2010. So yeah, that's a big market for spammers. anirudh On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Ramesh N G rames...@gmail.comwrote: I was really amazed on the discussion on the ads on the wikipedia. Looking at the snapshot, it could really some virus or adware. Even this should not be the way the ads come to Wikipedia, though I personally never will support this. I strongly recommend the user to scan the PC for a virus, change browser and check. Also seen some discussion where multiple people has reported this issue. This means that Wikipedia being targeted by Viruses now! User:Rameshng On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Could be, but it wouldn't hurt to do a scan of your system and find out if anything is wrong with it. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not the techie here, but I don't think its a malware on a system per se. Reason being being, two different people have experienced it, same ad also from different IP's, different locations though. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely Adware/Malware/Spyware/etc. Notice in the Screenshot, it says Ads Not By This Site. It should've been a clue. Do scan your system with a good antivirus [Free or paid doesn't matter]. If your system is infected by anything, your data might be at risk. --Cheers, On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw that screenshot and remembered, even my friend said, it was by the same site, inkfruit. Some common issue?? On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone. I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to you guys on this. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese wikipedia is here: http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=ensl=ptu=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDAsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=5ved=0CE4Q7gEwBAprev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). Here is a link to a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to check through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not visible to him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, there is some text that says, ads not by this site. I've taken a quick look through the page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His
