Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India
Whenever there is DD or MM format , there is a confusion. Month should be mmm. On Oct 10, 2014 11:23 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Srikanth Ramakrishnan The ISO 8601 format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 for date too corresponds to the same above (-MM-DD) format. Real advantages of this format are (1) Non-ambiguity, (2) Correct sort order even when data is processed as pure text and (3) international consistency Certainly, this is one of the subset of CLDR too. I suggest all Wikimedia projects should have this format as default, but again, customizable per user preferences. -Viswam On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Sudhanwa, while I don't know about Indian language projects, I do know that on the English Wikipedia, we have (or atleast used to) a standard date format of -MM-DD. This is a reversed order which I assume would be relatively easy to follow since even machines understand it. Cheerio. On 09-Oct-2014 11:24 pm, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised. In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone. This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time, logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings. Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier, could be taken up for implementation. Regards -Sudhanwa On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see: http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia), but some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is UTC. So for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource, then the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it will be UTC. I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's community. If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia uses the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up for community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to change it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit). If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea how to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions. Thank you! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India
I am for mmm for month name -Pavanaja On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Whenever there is DD or MM format , there is a confusion. Month should be mmm. On Oct 10, 2014 11:23 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Srikanth Ramakrishnan The ISO 8601 format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 for date too corresponds to the same above (-MM-DD) format. Real advantages of this format are (1) Non-ambiguity, (2) Correct sort order even when data is processed as pure text and (3) international consistency Certainly, this is one of the subset of CLDR too. I suggest all Wikimedia projects should have this format as default, but again, customizable per user preferences. -Viswam On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Sudhanwa, while I don't know about Indian language projects, I do know that on the English Wikipedia, we have (or atleast used to) a standard date format of -MM-DD. This is a reversed order which I assume would be relatively easy to follow since even machines understand it. Cheerio. On 09-Oct-2014 11:24 pm, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised. In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone. This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time, logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings. Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier, could be taken up for implementation. Regards -Sudhanwa On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see: http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia), but some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is UTC. So for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource, then the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it will be UTC. I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's community. If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia uses the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up for community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to change it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit). If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea how to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions. Thank you! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania bids are open
If India is interested. -- Forwarded message -- From: Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch Date: 20-Sep-2014 2:05 pm Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Dear Wikimedians, Wikimania is the global, annual conference of the Wikimedia movement, organised by the Wikimedia community. Organizing team and location are chosen by a jury in a public bidding process. Due to the growing requirements and complexity for this growing conference the Wikimania Committee decided to revise the bidding timeline to give more time to prepare the conference. Here it is: * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bid_selection_timeline == Jury == The Wikimania Committee is pleased to announce the jury for Wikimania 2016: Richard Symonds Stuart Prior Claudia Garad Esteban Zarate Daniel Bryant Finne Boonen Ellie Young == Accepting Bids == We invite anyone in our community to submit a proposal for Wikimania 2016 on Meta Wiki: * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids Please consult the timeline and Judging Criteria that are posted at: * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids The deadline for bids is November 15, 23:59 UTC. You should setup a bidding page and contact Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator before the deadline. She will help you prepare your bid. All bids which have been confirmed until November 15 will be considered by the jury, others will be dismissed. Subsequently there will be a two week period where the community can comment and offer feedback on the proposal. In December your team must be available for conference calls with the jury, after deliberations the host for Wikimania 2016 will be announced by the end of 2014. On behalf of the Wikimania Committee with regards, Manuel -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
