Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Stay connected
Hello, Indeed, that's a great and kind thought. Thanks for initiating this. I am also available for communication (any topic, specially non-wiki topics, food, books :)) Thanks User:Titodutta (Wikipedian) On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 04:36, Bodhisattwa Mandal wrote: > Hello, > > I am getting news that some of our community members from different parts > of the country and/or their loved ones, relatives and close neighbours are > getting infected by COVID-19 and/or affected by psychological problems due > to the stagnation of our lives for last few months. Things are definitely > not in good shape for many of us. > > I would like to give a message to all our community members that if you > desperately need someone to talk or discuss something, please feel free to > call me if you have my number or send me a mail or schedule a video call, > whichever you want. It's extremely important to stay connected, talk and > not feel lonely. > > I am sure that there are many others in the community who will be > extremely happy to help you too. > > Stay safe (I mean it), > > Regards, > Bodhisattwa > > > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fundraising in India - Launched
+1 and I agree with others. I am working on Wikipedia from last five years and during my journey I just felt we are here for each other. I will go through with Bodhi's point that we are facing these difficult times due to COVID-19 and cases are increasing day by day in India, as all know. It's time to do something for voulnteers from WMF and relize them that there existence is valuablिe or important. The on-grounded events have been shut down because of COVID-19 and foundation can plan something for volunteers without any demand from them because everyone (needy people) needs the attention from WMF and this is more important than anything else. Thank you Nitesh On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 4:12 am Bodhisattwa Mandal, wrote: > +1 to everything that others said. We are getting negative reactions from > readers everywhere. No doubt, it's a bad design with a very unacceptable > tone to ask for money. In the midst of COVID-19 crisis, it's a very bad > timing too. > > Being active on non-Wikipedia projects, this donation campaign does not > concern me at all, but for our Indian Wikipedia editors, there is an > extremely serious safety concern. Hope you have all noticed this article > and can understand the gravity of the situation. > > > https://theprint.in/india/biased-anti-hindu-campaign-begins-against-wikipedia-after-it-urges-indians-to-donate/472980/ > > So, Indian Wikipedia editors, please stay low and stay safe. This is WMF > campaign and it is definitely not worth to risk our own lives and families > for this. Personally, I am telling people to ask WMF fundraising team > directly when people are asking for explanations from me. > > Regards, > (As a non-Wikipedia volunteer worried about our vulnerable Wikipedia > community members) > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 00:48 Suyash Dwivedi wrote: > >> +1Balaji >> >> Regards, >> Er. Suyash Dwivedi (pronouns - he/his/him) >> (U:Suyash.dwivedi) >> suyash@gmail.com >> IST (Indian Standard Time) UTC+5:30 >> --Sent from my mobile device >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 11:45 PM balaji wrote: >> >>> Mostly of people asked of if the donation notice was geninue or scam. >>> Since they know I am closely associated with wikipedia movement they asked >>> me. >>> >>> Sudden popup of donation notice seems like a spam or hacking by external >>> agency. Totally uncool. And seeing the count shown I felt like I am being >>> tracked. It's too much of a bad feeling. >>> >>> Totally unhappy about the way fundraising banners are shown. >>> >>> Regards >>> J. Balaji. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 3 Aug, 2020, 11:40 PM Sudhanwa Jogalekar, < >>> sudhanwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, Here is some note by Amit Abhyankar on Facebook. There are similar comments on this post. - I guess most of us have received this message when accessing Wikipedia. While there is nothing wrong in asking for donations, I didn't like the tone of this appeal. The way it says 'reader in India' and 'This is the 6th appeal' doesn't sound right to me... Not sure why... but it just doesn't. I mean, we have not entered into a contract that says we will donate whenever you need us to... Then what's with counting the number of times this appeal has been shown? I ofcourse support Wiki as a movement, have donated in the past and will donate again in future... But how about telling us how much money you need and a live tracker that shows how much of the goal has been achieved? Transperency is the key to running a movement. If a common person gets such feeling from the fundraiser banner, the thought arises about what kind of survey/study is made by WMF before pushing this to the users. btw, Someone pinged me to ask if I know anyone of mailing list admins as his/her mails were not reaching to the mailing list. Dont know if there is any problem. (was using a nickname) More interesting was what he/she mentioned about the fundraiser. The QR code mentions "to pay" some company from Delhi that is not so old and has just Rs. 1 lakh capital !! I havent got time to get into these things but if this is true, I suppose WMF study/research/selection of partner is questionable. I hope WMF people will respond to this. Regards, -Sudhanwa On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:03 PM Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hey all, > > It makes me very happy to announce we have at last launched our > fundraiser in India :) This has been a huge effort and I want to thank the > community members who have passed on feedback, tested our infrastructure, > forwarded tweets and news stories, and just generally been amazingly > supportive :) > > Like our other fundraising campaigns this will run for around 4 weeks. > If you are regularly seeing banners, I recommend you log in to your >
[Wikimediaindia-l] Stay connected
Hello, I am getting news that some of our community members from different parts of the country and/or their loved ones, relatives and close neighbours are getting infected by COVID-19 and/or affected by psychological problems due to the stagnation of our lives for last few months. Things are definitely not in good shape for many of us. I would like to give a message to all our community members that if you desperately need someone to talk or discuss something, please feel free to call me if you have my number or send me a mail or schedule a video call, whichever you want. It's extremely important to stay connected, talk and not feel lonely. I am sure that there are many others in the community who will be extremely happy to help you too. Stay safe (I mean it), Regards, Bodhisattwa ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fundraising in India - Launched
+1 to everything that others said. We are getting negative reactions from readers everywhere. No doubt, it's a bad design with a very unacceptable tone to ask for money. In the midst of COVID-19 crisis, it's a very bad timing too. Being active on non-Wikipedia projects, this donation campaign does not concern me at all, but for our Indian Wikipedia editors, there is an extremely serious safety concern. Hope you have all noticed this article and can understand the gravity of the situation. https://theprint.in/india/biased-anti-hindu-campaign-begins-against-wikipedia-after-it-urges-indians-to-donate/472980/ So, Indian Wikipedia editors, please stay low and stay safe. This is WMF campaign and it is definitely not worth to risk our own lives and families for this. Personally, I am telling people to ask WMF fundraising team directly when people are asking for explanations from me. Regards, (As a non-Wikipedia volunteer worried about our vulnerable Wikipedia community members) On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 00:48 Suyash Dwivedi wrote: > +1Balaji > > Regards, > Er. Suyash Dwivedi (pronouns - he/his/him) > (U:Suyash.dwivedi) > suyash@gmail.com > IST (Indian Standard Time) UTC+5:30 > --Sent from my mobile device > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 11:45 PM balaji wrote: > >> Mostly of people asked of if the donation notice was geninue or scam. >> Since they know I am closely associated with wikipedia movement they asked >> me. >> >> Sudden popup of donation notice seems like a spam or hacking by external >> agency. Totally uncool. And seeing the count shown I felt like I am being >> tracked. It's too much of a bad feeling. >> >> Totally unhappy about the way fundraising banners are shown. >> >> Regards >> J. Balaji. >> >> >> On Mon, 3 Aug, 2020, 11:40 PM Sudhanwa Jogalekar, >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Here is some note by Amit Abhyankar on Facebook. There are similar >>> comments on this post. >>> - >>> I guess most of us have received this message when accessing Wikipedia. >>> While there is nothing wrong in asking for donations, I didn't like the >>> tone of this appeal. >>> The way it says 'reader in India' and 'This is the 6th appeal' doesn't >>> sound right to me... Not sure why... but it just doesn't. >>> I mean, we have not entered into a contract that says we will donate >>> whenever you need us to... Then what's with counting the number of times >>> this appeal has been shown? >>> I ofcourse support Wiki as a movement, have donated in the past and will >>> donate again in future... But how about telling us how much money you need >>> and a live tracker that shows how much of the goal has been achieved? >>> Transperency is the key to running a movement. >>> >>> >>> If a common person gets such feeling from the fundraiser banner, the >>> thought arises about what kind of survey/study is made by WMF before >>> pushing this to the users. >>> >>> btw, >>> >>> Someone pinged me to ask if I know anyone of mailing list admins as >>> his/her mails were not reaching to the mailing list. Dont know if there is >>> any problem. (was using a nickname) >>> More interesting was what he/she mentioned about the fundraiser. The QR >>> code mentions "to pay" some company from Delhi that is not so old and has >>> just Rs. 1 lakh capital !! I havent got time to get into these things but >>> if this is true, I suppose WMF study/research/selection of partner is >>> questionable. >>> >>> I hope WMF people will respond to this. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -Sudhanwa >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:03 PM Joseph Seddon >>> wrote: >>> Hey all, It makes me very happy to announce we have at last launched our fundraiser in India :) This has been a huge effort and I want to thank the community members who have passed on feedback, tested our infrastructure, forwarded tweets and news stories, and just generally been amazingly supportive :) Like our other fundraising campaigns this will run for around 4 weeks. If you are regularly seeing banners, I recommend you log in to your wikimedia accounts on wiki. We don't show banners to logged in users so as to not disrupt their work. As before: * If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a phabricator ticket [https://phabricator.wikimedia .org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?template=118862]. * If you see a donor on a talk page, OTRS or social media having difficulties in donating, please refer them to don...@wikimedia.org. * If you have specific ideas to share, please feel invited to add them to our fundraising ideas page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki /Fundraising/2019-20_Fundraising_ideas]. You can also contact me directly with my email address sed...@wikimedia.org and I can forward your feedback to the right person on the team. Thank you everyone! -- Seddon
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fundraising in India - Launched
+1Balaji Regards, Er. Suyash Dwivedi (pronouns - he/his/him) (U:Suyash.dwivedi) suyash@gmail.com IST (Indian Standard Time) UTC+5:30 --Sent from my mobile device On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 11:45 PM balaji wrote: > Mostly of people asked of if the donation notice was geninue or scam. > Since they know I am closely associated with wikipedia movement they asked > me. > > Sudden popup of donation notice seems like a spam or hacking by external > agency. Totally uncool. And seeing the count shown I felt like I am being > tracked. It's too much of a bad feeling. > > Totally unhappy about the way fundraising banners are shown. > > Regards > J. Balaji. > > > On Mon, 3 Aug, 2020, 11:40 PM Sudhanwa Jogalekar, > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Here is some note by Amit Abhyankar on Facebook. There are similar >> comments on this post. >> - >> I guess most of us have received this message when accessing Wikipedia. >> While there is nothing wrong in asking for donations, I didn't like the >> tone of this appeal. >> The way it says 'reader in India' and 'This is the 6th appeal' doesn't >> sound right to me... Not sure why... but it just doesn't. >> I mean, we have not entered into a contract that says we will donate >> whenever you need us to... Then what's with counting the number of times >> this appeal has been shown? >> I ofcourse support Wiki as a movement, have donated in the past and will >> donate again in future... But how about telling us how much money you need >> and a live tracker that shows how much of the goal has been achieved? >> Transperency is the key to running a movement. >> >> >> If a common person gets such feeling from the fundraiser banner, the >> thought arises about what kind of survey/study is made by WMF before >> pushing this to the users. >> >> btw, >> >> Someone pinged me to ask if I know anyone of mailing list admins as >> his/her mails were not reaching to the mailing list. Dont know if there is >> any problem. (was using a nickname) >> More interesting was what he/she mentioned about the fundraiser. The QR >> code mentions "to pay" some company from Delhi that is not so old and has >> just Rs. 1 lakh capital !! I havent got time to get into these things but >> if this is true, I suppose WMF study/research/selection of partner is >> questionable. >> >> I hope WMF people will respond to this. >> >> Regards, >> -Sudhanwa >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:03 PM Joseph Seddon >> wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> It makes me very happy to announce we have at last launched our >>> fundraiser in India :) This has been a huge effort and I want to thank the >>> community members who have passed on feedback, tested our infrastructure, >>> forwarded tweets and news stories, and just generally been amazingly >>> supportive :) >>> >>> Like our other fundraising campaigns this will run for around 4 weeks. >>> If you are regularly seeing banners, I recommend you log in to your >>> wikimedia accounts on wiki. We don't show banners to logged in users so as >>> to not disrupt their work. >>> >>> As before: >>> >>> * If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a >>> phabricator ticket [https://phabricator.wikimedia >>> .org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?template=118862]. >>> * If you see a donor on a talk page, OTRS or social media having >>> difficulties in donating, please refer them to don...@wikimedia.org. >>> * If you have specific ideas to share, please feel invited to add them >>> to our fundraising ideas page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki >>> /Fundraising/2019-20_Fundraising_ideas]. >>> >>> You can also contact me directly with my email address >>> sed...@wikimedia.org and I can forward your feedback to the right >>> person on the team. >>> >>> Thank you everyone! >>> >>> -- >>> Seddon >>> >>> >>> *Senior Community Relations Specialist* >>> *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation* >>> ___ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! >> web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in >> Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fundraising in India - Launched
Mostly of people asked of if the donation notice was geninue or scam. Since they know I am closely associated with wikipedia movement they asked me. Sudden popup of donation notice seems like a spam or hacking by external agency. Totally uncool. And seeing the count shown I felt like I am being tracked. It's too much of a bad feeling. Totally unhappy about the way fundraising banners are shown. Regards J. Balaji. On Mon, 3 Aug, 2020, 11:40 PM Sudhanwa Jogalekar, wrote: > Hi, > > Here is some note by Amit Abhyankar on Facebook. There are similar > comments on this post. > - > I guess most of us have received this message when accessing Wikipedia. > While there is nothing wrong in asking for donations, I didn't like the > tone of this appeal. > The way it says 'reader in India' and 'This is the 6th appeal' doesn't > sound right to me... Not sure why... but it just doesn't. > I mean, we have not entered into a contract that says we will donate > whenever you need us to... Then what's with counting the number of times > this appeal has been shown? > I ofcourse support Wiki as a movement, have donated in the past and will > donate again in future... But how about telling us how much money you need > and a live tracker that shows how much of the goal has been achieved? > Transperency is the key to running a movement. > > > If a common person gets such feeling from the fundraiser banner, the > thought arises about what kind of survey/study is made by WMF before > pushing this to the users. > > btw, > > Someone pinged me to ask if I know anyone of mailing list admins as > his/her mails were not reaching to the mailing list. Dont know if there is > any problem. (was using a nickname) > More interesting was what he/she mentioned about the fundraiser. The QR > code mentions "to pay" some company from Delhi that is not so old and has > just Rs. 1 lakh capital !! I havent got time to get into these things but > if this is true, I suppose WMF study/research/selection of partner is > questionable. > > I hope WMF people will respond to this. > > Regards, > -Sudhanwa > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:03 PM Joseph Seddon > wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> It makes me very happy to announce we have at last launched our >> fundraiser in India :) This has been a huge effort and I want to thank the >> community members who have passed on feedback, tested our infrastructure, >> forwarded tweets and news stories, and just generally been amazingly >> supportive :) >> >> Like our other fundraising campaigns this will run for around 4 weeks. If >> you are regularly seeing banners, I recommend you log in to your wikimedia >> accounts on wiki. We don't show banners to logged in users so as to not >> disrupt their work. >> >> As before: >> >> * If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a >> phabricator ticket [https://phabricator.wikimedia >> .org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?template=118862]. >> * If you see a donor on a talk page, OTRS or social media having >> difficulties in donating, please refer them to don...@wikimedia.org. >> * If you have specific ideas to share, please feel invited to add them to >> our fundraising ideas page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki >> /Fundraising/2019-20_Fundraising_ideas]. >> >> You can also contact me directly with my email address >> sed...@wikimedia.org and I can forward your feedback to the right person >> on the team. >> >> Thank you everyone! >> >> -- >> Seddon >> >> >> *Senior Community Relations Specialist* >> *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation* >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > > > -- > > ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! > web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in > Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fundraising in India - Launched
Hi, Here is some note by Amit Abhyankar on Facebook. There are similar comments on this post. - I guess most of us have received this message when accessing Wikipedia. While there is nothing wrong in asking for donations, I didn't like the tone of this appeal. The way it says 'reader in India' and 'This is the 6th appeal' doesn't sound right to me... Not sure why... but it just doesn't. I mean, we have not entered into a contract that says we will donate whenever you need us to... Then what's with counting the number of times this appeal has been shown? I ofcourse support Wiki as a movement, have donated in the past and will donate again in future... But how about telling us how much money you need and a live tracker that shows how much of the goal has been achieved? Transperency is the key to running a movement. If a common person gets such feeling from the fundraiser banner, the thought arises about what kind of survey/study is made by WMF before pushing this to the users. btw, Someone pinged me to ask if I know anyone of mailing list admins as his/her mails were not reaching to the mailing list. Dont know if there is any problem. (was using a nickname) More interesting was what he/she mentioned about the fundraiser. The QR code mentions "to pay" some company from Delhi that is not so old and has just Rs. 1 lakh capital !! I havent got time to get into these things but if this is true, I suppose WMF study/research/selection of partner is questionable. I hope WMF people will respond to this. Regards, -Sudhanwa On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:03 PM Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hey all, > > It makes me very happy to announce we have at last launched our fundraiser > in India :) This has been a huge effort and I want to thank the community > members who have passed on feedback, tested our infrastructure, forwarded > tweets and news stories, and just generally been amazingly supportive :) > > Like our other fundraising campaigns this will run for around 4 weeks. If > you are regularly seeing banners, I recommend you log in to your wikimedia > accounts on wiki. We don't show banners to logged in users so as to not > disrupt their work. > > As before: > > * If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a > phabricator ticket [https://phabricator.wikimedia > .org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?template=118862]. > * If you see a donor on a talk page, OTRS or social media having > difficulties in donating, please refer them to don...@wikimedia.org. > * If you have specific ideas to share, please feel invited to add them to > our fundraising ideas page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki > /Fundraising/2019-20_Fundraising_ideas]. > > You can also contact me directly with my email address > sed...@wikimedia.org and I can forward your feedback to the right person > on the team. > > Thank you everyone! > > -- > Seddon > > > *Senior Community Relations Specialist* > *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation* > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
