Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How is CIS-A2K eligible to get Annual Plan Grant through FDC?
To get back to topic and answer the original question, the basis for CIS's eligibility is this WMF Board resolution: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:FDC_recognition_for_the_Centre_for_the_Internet_and_Society Best regards, Bence On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, As far as I am concerned when the chapter and CIS work together, they will achieve more and bicker less. The more prominent the bickering the stronger will be the urge to cut on funding and to be extra careful when giving additional funding. I am a long time Wikimedian, I have over 300.000 personal edits on Wikidata alone. My dream is to use Wikidata to generate text that can be read in any language. This is not rocket science but it needs the cooperation of people. People that could be you. For me CIS has been important because the support I got from them has given me the stick to get languages supported in Wikidata without any prior localisation. There are two languages I asked it for and one is from India. When I asked for the cooperation of the Tropenmuseum my motivation was that it would make pictures that are in Dutch museums available to people in Indonesia. It did. NB these two languages may be functional next week. When they are it will be REALLY easy to get a foot print in Wikidata and consequently in Reasonator. Reasonator may take some tweaking ... My affiliation is with free knowledge and my aim is to get more of it. CIS has been helpful in this in a practical way. I like to work with people from India and I do so regularly. I like to work with people who make things happen, they are the ones that are important to me. Thanks, GerardM On 23 April 2014 15:43, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, I contribute to Tamil Wikimedia movement since 2005. I have made 25000+ edits in total. I serve as bureaucrat and sysop in most of the Tamil Wikimedia projects. I am an ordinary member of WMIN. I have not been in any role with the India chapter. I have hardly written one or two mails there. I have not applied for any jobs with CIS-A2K. You are open to interpret my affiliation and bias with this background info :) Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad
Hi Yuvi, An agreement was reached that the group would first seek recognition as a Wikimedia Chapter SIG and then as a Wikimedia User Group. Best regards, Bence On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Seems to have stalled? Any update on this from AffCom / Chapter? -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
Thank you Srikanth! If I understand the page correctly there can be either city or language SIGs (no other types are defined), and to create one, one has to nominate the Chair? The Chair doesn't have to be a member at the time of nomination, as longs as he applies for membership once accepted? (Although this is contradictory, the one who does the nomination or if they nominate themselves, they need to be already members, according to the top of the page?) Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad
Hi Theo, I think the historical context you put the Ahmedabad group in is fascinating, but imputing the creation of the proposed group to yet another WMF-led half-baked initiative is unfair. Wikimedia User Groups are finally getting off the ground; while the page might contain edits from me, it is considered official. There have been hiccups with getting trademarks sorted out but the first serious user group proposed is actually the meetup group of Munich, fully supported by Wikimedia DE in their attempt to get recognized. (See the WM DE chapter-created newsletter: https://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/11/15/wikimediawoche-462012/). User groups are meant to be created and recognized quickly (speed of the process will improve as we go on), perhaps even the 1-month timeframe might be considered too long if there are no complications; the model is an easy and not too risky way to empower a group who wants to conduct _offline_ activities (the reasons you don't see the hundreds of on-wiki Wikiprojects applying for this status is that they are not eligible). MediaWiki Groups are indeed a very new concept, but as they fit relatively well into the Wikimedia User Group model, which is overseen by a volunteer committee incidentally, it was agreed that it is better to have it integrated and approved by the volunteer Affiliations Committee. As for the Indian SIG model, it is understandably specific to the Indian chapter. The reason it is being considered is because Wikimedia organizations should be good neighbours, and the creation of new ones should be a carefully considered step. However, it might be that the final recommended best course of action is to 1) make the proposed group merely a SIG in this local context 2) make it only a MediaWiki Group 3) make it into both 4) continue this discussion in a way that the people behind the group simply give up and the problem vanishes. In considering the best way forward, one needs to consider the requirements of setting up a SIG (which requires Wikimedia India membership, and certain other unknown steps that are currently described on the closed members wiki of Wikimedia India – with a promise to make them public), an MG (which are described on the linked pages, but boil down to having at least three interested people with a common goal to do something offline and support from the relevant community(ies)) – my guess is that not counting prolonged discussions like this, the MG process is quicker so a reasonable final action plan would include first getting this status and then being recognized as an SIG, if option 3 above was the method chosen by the group. Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
Hi all, In light of recent recommendations to set up an SIG instead of autonomous groups, I was wondering if there is any available documentation on the process and benefits of doing so? I was looking at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/City_and_Language_SIG_subcommittee_chair, the only page I could find on the topic on the Wikimedia India wiki, but that did not seem to explain the process and nature of SIGs. (Also, I haven't seen them defined in Wikimedia India's bylaws.) What did I miss? Thanks for your help, Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
Thanks Srikanth, looking forward to it! Best regards, Bence On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi Bence, The SIG process is currently located on the Members Wiki of the Chapter, which is accessible only to Members. I think it's high time it is made public so I shall port it to the Public Wiki. While the Chapter does support volunteers of all kinds, the SIG chair has to be a member. This is for the following reasons: 1. The SIG Chair gets a Wikimedia.in email address. 2. The SIG Chair will be representing the Chapter. 3. As per legal obligations, the SIG Chair signs a Code of Conduct with the Chapter. Apart from this, the Chapter is open to supporting all volunteers. Regards, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, In light of recent recommendations to set up an SIG instead of autonomous groups, I was wondering if there is any available documentation on the process and benefits of doing so? I was looking at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/City_and_Language_SIG_subcommittee_chair, the only page I could find on the topic on the Wikimedia India wiki, but that did not seem to explain the process and nature of SIGs. (Also, I haven't seen them defined in Wikimedia India's bylaws.) What did I miss? As I seem to recall, SIG roles weren't really fleshed out in terms of real world implications. Majority of the chapter board that was working on it resigned or left after their respective terms. This new initiative to create user groups within India is being led by WMF staff from my perspective. I don't think it should be looked at in that way. I think the main idea is to empower volunteers (and while many many are self-empowered, labels and affiliation can still provide the final push) regardless of their location. This is not about a top down imposition (or even if it was, the costs are minimal, and the benefits could be big if the empowerment happens). The Indian SIG model could be a way to achieve the same goal, perhaps in parallel, but as long as the process and requirements are not publicly defined they might not be serving their purpose and it is difficult to expect people excited by the idea of of the empowerment that comes from affiliation to choose the (process-wise) undefined SIG model. That is why I was wondering where the process and requirements are defined; what would a regular Joe need to do to set up a SIG? Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Applying to ChapCom: Deadline 15 Feb
Thanks Noopur for sharing this! You can find the call for candidates at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_Committee/Call_for_Candidates_2012 Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about the Committee or the selection process. Best regards, Bence (Chapters Committee) On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, the Chapter Committee (ChapCom) application deadline is February 15. For those interested in applying, here is the link: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_Committee Members will selected and here is the procedure of selection: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Resolutions/Amendment_of_Rules_November_2011_-_January_2012 I would urge the chapter members to consider applying. :) Thank you, Warmly Noopur -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Chapter Foundation : Sep 2011 : Meeting Update
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: - Independent public trust setup is in progress Hi Hisham, Thank you for this update. A minor linguistic issue I am having: can you please give a little bit more context or background on the independent public trust? (As in what is an independent public trust and what is it for, why is it needed for the WMF.) Thanks, Bence ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter
Hi Vibhi, A chapter is not a goal in itself, it is more of a tool to facilitate activities that require a legal body to perform them. Therefore, I would encourage you to collect those 20 people around you and start having meetups, little outreach events and so on. Once you feel, that you need a legal body, or money, your needs would very likely be met by the current legal bodies in the country. Obviously, it might turn out to make the most sense to establish local branches, but these probably would not be independent from the local Indian chapter already existing. In sum, I encourage you to be active and cooperate with the existing communities in India to make the most of the multitude of possibilities and the huge potential in community building and outreach. Setting up a new independent Indian chapter at this point is probably not desirable, and would probably not be approved by the WMF. Best regards, Bence On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Vibhi Jain vibhij...@yahoo.in wrote: Well I have placed the chapter request with a lot of discussion with Mayur, a member of the Grand Advisory Committee. We have the support of many hindi wikipedians including two crats, Mayur and Ashish. And we will soon get the support from more 20 wikipedians. Wikimedia India chapter is mainly Concentrated toward South Indian Languages, New Chapter in New delhi will help make a good community in India. Well Tinu, you are right, you don't need more organisations, but we need. Well, 10-20 people interested are needed for a chapter, lets see, if we gets them, then only we will proceed. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Have some editing queries, where should I go ?
Hi all, There is a secure version of Wikipedia accessible through https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page (for different language versions and projects you have to manipulate the url a bit, e.g. change the en to the language code you need). Best regards, Bence On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 8:07 AM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: Shirish, https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l would be the best place to discuss this issue. Once you're totally convinced it should have that level of security, you can file a request at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From: shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, December 28, 2010 10:49:06 PM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Have some editing queries, where should I go ? Hi all, Have some editing queries, which is a good list to use for that ? I do understand that this Mailing list (ML) is probably gonna be used for co-ordination of various things rather than talking perhaps about wikipedia or wikimedia edits. I do have one query though that is important enough perhaps to be posted on this list. While I was on Wikipedia today, I went to my user account page and got this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MergeAccount and I saw that it doesn't have any sort of https:// to it. I stopped there itself but shouldn't it be a good idea to have https:// or what do people think ? -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
