Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread sankarshan
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?272101 ( web version) [snip] It was inevitable, really. Wikimedia had little choice but to come to India as growth in the West, or the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
I need to agree with Gautam. Growth = More Participations* | *More User/Contributions on both English and Language Wikipedias* |* More language Wikipedias and Wikimedia Projects ( Not necessarily donations ;P ) - TC On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread Gautam John
So here's something that got me thinking, assuming there is a bot that could create perfect translations, both linguistically and idiomatically, from English to every other language and we ran that on Wikipedia - would that be considered growth? Or do we have our own triple bottom line, of a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del] Join Wikimedia Delhi chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
I feel everyone should feel respected and pay respected that the Foundation Chapter office is going to be in Capital of India and Chapter office to be Bangalore as it was initiated here. That makes a fair belief and proportionate handling of all the outreach operation and convenience throughout

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del] Join Wikimedia Delhi chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Do we really need a sub chapter of a chapter? My two cents. Is the India Chapter gaining momentum? Are people signing up? On 5 June 2011 21:40, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: I feel everyone should feel respected and pay respected that the Foundation Chapter office is going

[Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project closing down

2011-06-05 Thread Ravishankar
In a recent mail to the google group regarding Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project, Dimple Batra from Google reported: We are in the process of closing down the wikipedia indic language translation project. We had initiated this project to bootstrap the creation of indic content and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del] Join Wikimedia Delhi chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Theo10011
Regardless of my opinion on this, I wanted to fill in those reading this. Vibhijain, aged 13 according to his userpage [1] joined WMF projects about 3 months ago, in that time, he has requested sysops on 2 or 3 indic-language projects, crat rights, bot rights, inquired about oversight rights and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del] Join Wikimedia Delhi chapter

2011-06-05 Thread jayanta nath
Thanks Salmaan for sharing this information about Vibhijain. I am so far from East of India, where still WMF India Chapter is not so functioning.In spite of that I want to said that we have no need to another sub chapter. We need to get more work done only. Jayanta Nath Calcutta user:jayantanth

[Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Vibhi Jain
Well I have placed the chapter request with a lot of discussion with Mayur, a member of the Grand Advisory Committee. We have the support of many hindi wikipedians including two crats, Mayur and Ashish. And we will soon get the support from more 20 wikipedians. Wikimedia India chapter is mainly

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project closing down

2011-06-05 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Ravi, What Google did can pretty much be summarized as a 'Half hearted attempt'. However, I had posted last week, a link to Microsoft's API and transliteration tools. Personally, I find it better than Google. The only catch is that Microsoft requires you to link back to them. -- Regards, Srikanth

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Vibhi, That the India chapter is concentrated ONLY on South Indian languages is a major misconception. While I agree, the Chapter is headed in Bangalore and the head of the chapter is an admin of the Telugu Wikipedia, do note that it is a pan India matter. Hope this clears it up. --Regards,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
I think Vibhi, you are thinking of a outsider point of view. There is no we and you here, we all are volunteers and work each others. Do you think Tinu/Shiju or all who took so much of pain to spread and spread awareness for participating for Wikipedia would have done this is this South

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Vibhi, A chapter is not a goal in itself, it is more of a tool to facilitate activities that require a legal body to perform them. Therefore, I would encourage you to collect those 20 people around you and start having meetups, little outreach events and so on. Once you feel, that you need a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Theo10011
You are not articulating your position quite well here. There already is a national chapter. Sub-national chapters aren't very common. Can someone else from your supporters speak up? Mayur, are you reading this? I left a message on your page on hi.wiki about his wikimania bid a couple of weeks

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19

2011-06-05 Thread Vibhi Jain
Well as it comes to age, i do not think that its a barrier here. As it comes to sysop rights, i am the largest contributor to sa wiki and to pi wiki, where I am a sysop. Well for your information, I have been engaged in contacting organizations for collaborations with pi wiki. Then it comes to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19

2011-06-05 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Bro, just chill. I think you are going a little overboard on this matter. It's not about Personal contributions OR joining date. In case you didn't know, I've been here since 2005, and Arun from 2004, however most of the prominent members of the community, like Manish, Tinu, Subha have all joined

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19

2011-06-05 Thread Theo10011
Hi I'm sorry you feel that way about me. Please understand that I value your contributions and this is nothing personal, but I have also been trying to talk sense into you for over a month now, on IRC and on-wiki. I said I really liked your enthusiasm but you need to learn first how things work.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread mayur
Hi all, In reply to above posts i want to make one point clear that I agreed to create a new chapter in Delhi with Vibhijain but that is just a proposal and this will be done if we get atleast 20 Participants. Two options are better than one.As of now we Observed that whole Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19

2011-06-05 Thread Swaroop Rao
Vibhi, I suggest you take it cool. I appreciate your enthusiasm in Sa and especially Pi wikipedias; No one is belittling your contributions. First: there was, and is (as of now) approved admin/crat policy on sa wikipedia, and you cannot quote policies which do not exist. Also, I don't think you

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: So here's something that got me thinking, assuming there is a bot that could create perfect translations, both linguistically and idiomatically, from English to every other language and we ran that on Wikipedia - would

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?272101 ( web version) [snip] It was inevitable, really.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Abhilash S Unni
All A fence sitter here, and a South Indian.. a mallu to the core.. :) Mayur, Vibhi and all out there, here I am talking from very much of an outsider perspective. I would agree to the point that Mayur has made about having an un-intentional bias which would creep in. Honestly that might

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Vibhi Jain vibhij...@yahoo.in wrote: Wikimedia India chapter is mainly Concentrated toward South Indian Languages, Any measurable work by Indian Chapter is not visible for me so far. Both with North /south indian languages/ areas. I think They are just placing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Vibhi, DO NOTE: 1 The Chapter was formed hardly six months ago. Give it some time. You're acting too impatient. 2 While the Chapter is headed in Bangalore, The Foundation offices in India will be in Delhi, as confirmed by Hisham over IRC on the 2nd of June. What more do you want? --Srikanth R.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project closing down

2011-06-05 Thread Gautam John
Thanks for sending this, Ravi. I am wondering how much this has to do with them also shutting down their translation and transliteration APIs as recently announced and how much this has to do with them having achieved what they set out to do - not as far as Wikipedia is concerned but their

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Arun Ramarathnam
Vibhi, It is great to hear about traction from New Delhi. Please use the momentum to get some regular Wikipedia meet ups going in New Delhi like Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore and Kerala. Meetups in each city are a great way to serve the needs of the local wikipedians and community. Membership to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
.As of now we Observed that whole Wikimedia and Chapter Activities are Concentrated towards South India I dont get how Delhi wikimedians got this impression. From what i can see, the chapter is still taking its baby steps and hasn't done anything in particular. Only after the chapter starts

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: I dont get how Delhi wikimedians got this impression. Perhaps using the phrases Wikimedians in Delhi, as opposed to Delhi Wikimedians would be a good start. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter

2011-06-05 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: I dont get how Delhi wikimedians got this impression. Perhaps using the phrases Wikimedians in Delhi, as opposed to Delhi Wikimedians

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter (User:AroundTheGlobe)

2011-06-05 Thread wheredevelsdare
Having a new Delhi chapter could just be dropping a match in a haystack - for a spate of new regional chapters all over India. All I see this creating is politics and mayhem. It would be like the BCCI - 30+ state level associations making up the national society. Something that we can avoid