[Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Heya, I think it is time to make a clear distinction between FOSS and Wikipedia out here. Wikipedia is NOT FOSS and FOSS is NOT Wikipedia. Only the basic ideology is the same, nothing else. Several of us, including Me, Pradeep have been victims of FOSS activism, both on the list and off the list.

[Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines

2012-01-04 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all, Off late the traffic to India list has gone up much more than what it was before (already a highly active list!). During the last couple of months, we moderators have got requests from members that the list is becoming pointless due to the volume of mails and quality of threads. I

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 4 January 2012 13:38, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: list and off the list. Wikipedia so't wholely reliant on FOSS, and will never be. I don't mean to offend anyone but this is it. Please

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread wheredevelsdare
Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argumentum_ad_Jimbonem From: anivar.arav...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:06:47 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Gautam John

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Gautam John
Please attack the argument on merit. Not the person articulating them. Thank you. Best, Gautam (handheld) On Jan 4, 2012 2:16 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argumentum_ad_Jimbonem -- From:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread wheredevelsdare
I was not attacking anyone, with reference to the link forwarded, pointing to this statement: I think that almost any argument, on any topic, which has premises beginning with Jimbo said... is a pretty weak argument. Surely the merits of the proposal should be primary, not what I happen to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
With due respect to Jimmy Wales, Free Knowledge may run on Free Software but doesn't need to be contributed using Free Software. I remember the time when some FOSS activists/extremists didn't like me editing Wikipedia because I use Windows and Opera, neither of which are FOSS. -- Regards,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, My only contribution to this shall be this. I am irritated at a PoV being pushed on the list sometimes that FOSS is the best way of doing things. People who edit Wikipedia comes from various backgrounds and FOSS advocates on this list have pushed me towards Microsoft products and I've found

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Fwd: Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012

2012-01-04 Thread Noopur
-- Forwarded message -- From: Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012 To: Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com Cc: Mailing list for

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argumentum_ad_Jimbonem It was not. Instead of articulating same point again, i pointed the link. It does not matter even if it someone else's article . Please respond to it that ,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines

2012-01-04 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 15:14, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote: hi, Do any other Wikipedia lists have such guidelines which we can 'get inspired' by? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Guidelines has some related points which can be used by us too. Lets be inspiration for

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India IRC meetup

2012-01-04 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi friends, We will have our IRC meetup on Jan 7, 2011, from 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/Jan_07,2012 We from Wikimedia India Chapter invites you all to take part in the IRC meetup. On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter (India) Thanks, Naveen

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread wheredevelsdare
Would have been good to mention that when you posted the link. I have said what I have to, I will not be commenting on this thread any further. IMHO This subject has been debated enough on this list in the last few months, we surely have more positive stuff to discuss. From:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:31 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Would have been good to mention that when you posted the link. I am not much aware about such strange rules in English wikipedia :-) Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
You do not provide only references, you write the relevant paragraph that you are referencing. We did not think that we should write that down. The originator of this thread has informed me that he has left the list. Agree with Pranav, that we have much better things to do than discuss this. If

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: You do not provide only references, you write the relevant paragraph that you are referencing. We did not think that we should write that down. The whole article is relevant in the context of this thread, so why

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Ashwin Baindur
I think people need to increase their tolerance level for what is not bad faith or unencyclopedic on this list. It seems that just mentioning FOSS is enough to trigger off rejoinders. See WP:IDONTLIKEIT This list exists to discuss matters related to Wikimedia community at large. Occasionally it

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: So I request that we may all simmer down a bit. If this continues then I would like to join them since I cant beat them. This I shall do by getting upset about the abhorrent word *baingan. *I dont like the taste of

[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMedia 11th Anniversary + India Chapter 1st Anniversary Celebrations !

2012-01-04 Thread RadhaKrishna Arvapally
Hi All, We are Celebrating WikiMedia 11th anniversary WikiMedia India Chapter 1st Anniversary in Bangalore on 15th January ! Please forward to concerned people. All those in Bangalore, please join along with all your friends. -- Thanks Regards, A.Radha Krishna On behalf of Bangalore SIG

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMedia 11th Anniversary + India Chapter 1st Anniversary Celebrations !

2012-01-04 Thread RadhaKrishna Arvapally
For details registration, please visit http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiMeetups/Bangalore/Bangalore41 Best Regards, RadhaKrishna On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are Celebrating WikiMedia 11th anniversary WikiMedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012

2012-01-04 Thread Anirudh Bhati
Gerard Meijssen blogged about Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad: http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/01/wikipedia-takes-ahmedabad.html anirudh On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops! Link to category:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines

2012-01-04 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Some more pointers http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l#Rules Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 15:14, Pradeep Mohandas

[Wikimediaindia-l] Birthday of Indic language wikipedias

2012-01-04 Thread Shiju Alex
Dear Indic wikipedians One of the aspects that was raised during the discussions with almost all Indic language wiki communities was the need to build existing communities, motivate existing community members, attract new community members by increasing awareness of projects and communities, and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines

2012-01-04 Thread Theo10011
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 15:14, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Do any other Wikipedia lists have such guidelines which we can 'get inspired' by?

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India IRC meetup

2012-01-04 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Naveen typically I'm invited for dinner at this time not able to make it on Saturday yet again. The day/timing sucks. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends, We

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India IRC meetup

2012-01-04 Thread wheredevelsdare
The day/timing sucks. +1 Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends, We will have our IRC meetup on Jan 7, 2011, from 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines

2012-01-04 Thread Ashwin Baindur
I think Srikanth's list is quite an acceptable list of guidelines. A list exists for the purpose of discussion. Theoretically every Wikipedian subscribed to this list can respond to every thread and start a thread of their own everyday. Should this happen, our discussions would rise in magnitude

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines

2012-01-04 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, I think it is broad enough in its current form to serve as a begining. Let's share it here and request comments from the list and other administrators before finalising? Pradeep User:Prad2609 On 4 January 2012 19:45, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: I think Srikanth's list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines

2012-01-04 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Hi, Another guidelines page here: http://www.plug.org.in/mailing-list And (supposed to be) the master of them all is here: http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html I am afraid that these are from the FOSS world and with FOSS context. Take it or leave it. -Sudhanwa

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMedia 11th Anniversary + India Chapter 1st Anniversary Celebrations !

2012-01-04 Thread Shrinivasan T
please send a separate mail as an invitation for the event with full details like place, time, agenda. Will be useful to send to other lists in banglore. thanks. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Report on Wikipedians participation in CMDA IT Expo, 2011- (15 to 18 Dec. 2011)

2012-01-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you, Sudhanwa, for this detailed and inspiring report. As you say, it sounds like very good value for the time and money invested. I hope the community makes the most of this by effectively following up with those 250 interested folks. I have taken the liberty of sharing the heartwarming

[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Ahmedabad Mirror : Amdavadis explore city through their lens

2012-01-04 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
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