Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Coordinating Google translation kit articles

2010-02-23 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
In Tamil wiki too we#39;re extremely concerned about quality. That#39;s why even GaneshBot was constrained. On this issue, we#39;re keeping an open mind and it#39;s still in a pilot stage. sundar from mobile Jyothis Edathoot wrote: While we welcome the efforts and contributions, all wikis

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter

2010-03-09 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Please also spread the word in all Indian language wikis including the English Wiki noticeboard. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Marathi is now also done

2010-03-09 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Gerard, I finally bit the bait thanks to your consistent lobbying. :) Translated all but the copyright notice for Tamil. Will ask fellow Wikipedians to review. What next? Regards, Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter

2010-03-11 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Dear Praveen,Since I'm one of the people involved, let me introduce myself:I'm an editor at English and Tamil Wikipedias for around 6 years, though recently I'm mainly active in Tamil Wikipedia alone. My username on either wikis is 'Sundar'. I am a bureaucrat in Tamil Wiki and an admin in the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter

2010-03-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Shahid, Please don't see the executive group as an entitlement arising purely out of Wiki contributions. Every Wikipedian puts in volunteer effort to the extent they can, and we don't do it for any special previlege or quid pro quo, do we? The members you see here are merely who were known to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter

2010-03-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
, 2010), Join on : irc://irc.freenode.org/wikimedia-in http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India#IRC Thanks, Naveen Francis On 12 March 2010 13:51, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Shahid, Please don't see the executive group as an entitlement arising purely out of Wiki

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter

2010-03-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
I posted a notice in Tamil Wiki Village Pump, Arjun and Gurubrahma have posted in Telugu mailing lists, and Arun has posted in the English Wiki Indian noticeboard. Hope other language wikipedians would also be following this thread - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and

[Wikimediaindia-l] Popularising this list

2010-03-18 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi all, In the last meetup, some wikipedians felt that this list and several coordination avenues for Indian Wikipedias get perceived as only for English Wikipedia. To clear this misconception, we decided on the following course of action: 1. Popularising this list in all wikimedia projects

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Integration with OpenStreetMap

2010-03-30 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Dear Gerard, Ganesh originally wrote his bot to create articles on census data from a fixed template and spreadsheet data. You can find the details at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Ganeshbot_0 (Ganesh's anyway on this list, so he can add more details.) His

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Bangalore Meet-up April 11, 2010

2010-04-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Srikanth, A clarification: the person you're referring to, is not a Tamil Wikipedian as such (no edits). He might've claimed so. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Some information for Bangalore Mirror

2010-04-15 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Arun generally watches this list, but is travelling right now. I'm sending a twitter DM to him right away. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wikimedians meetup - 2010 April 17 - Kalamasseri, Ernakulam

2010-04-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Wonderful. My best wishes to all Malayalam Wiki participants. We had earlier faced some issues with PediaPress to generate PDF versions of Tamil Wiki articles. Was following up with the developers, but somehow left it in the limbo. Given this state, do you think the software that you people

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki2CD software

2010-04-17 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Excellent work, Santosh. I read the README and the documentation. I think for most requirements, we can simply reuse the program. Even if some customisation is needed, we can modify the code, I think. Restricting it to just one namespace, for example. Please add this project to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Number of local Wikipedians

2010-04-20 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
I think he deleted it because the title was in English. We should try pretty url on the real article on Malayalam. - Sundar from mobile On Wed Apr 21st, 2010 8:56 AM IST CherianTinu Abraham wrote: Natkeeran deleted it. Notifying him regarding this thread - Tinu Cherian On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

2010-04-21 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi Samuel, Thanks for the clarification. Good to know that the foundation is in the know. Ravi and I have acted as interlocutors with the Google team for Tamil Wikipedia. We have exchanged several emails and have had one conference call with the Google team. During these communications, we

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Good to see many Indian language scripts added to the logo. :) And, admittedly on account of them being growth areas for Wikipedia. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] a linux input method available for many Indic scripts

2010-06-24 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
For your information: I've used SCIM for typing in Tamil and currently use IBUS. Both work very well for typing in Tamil. They support various key mappings for each language. I think they're available for most of the languages. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Urgently need to reach Salmaan Haroon

2010-07-04 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Bishaka, Where is Salmaan from? India, Bangladesh? If Dhaka, Bellayet can help. He seems to be online. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Urgently need to reach Salmaan Haroon

2010-07-04 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Bellayet if he knows him. Janusz may know? 2010/7/5 BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com Bishaka, Where is Salmaan from? India, Bangladesh? If Dhaka, Bellayet can help. He seems to be online. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Urgently need to reach Salmaan Haroon

2010-07-05 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Salmaan Haroon Really no clue...please ask Bellayet if he knows him. Janusz may know? 2010/7/5 BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com Bishaka, Where is Salmaan from? India, Bangladesh? If Dhaka, Bellayet can help. He seems to be online. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] About small wikipediae

2010-07-06 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
It is Jimbo Wales himself. To my knowledge, once you respond, he actually follows up with a chat over Skype to understand better. (At least, he did that with a Tamil Wikipedian.) So, I guess this is a serious effort. You can highlight the factors responsible for slow growth of many Indian

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

2010-08-07 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please help test geolocation

2010-08-11 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Ravi, Good idea. It identifies Bangalore and Karnataka correctly. Can you click on the link and verify whether it shows Kovai correctly? Sundar from mobile On Wed Aug 11th, 2010 11:15 AM IST Ravishankar wrote: Eric, Good tool. Can this be used to display banners country wide or state wide?

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

2010-08-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
and add 2 spaces. On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia. Thanks for the suggestions. Regards, Srikanth L ___ Wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam WIkipedia /Wikimedia Academy - Madurai , Tamil Nadu- 21 Sep 2010

2010-09-17 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Tinu, ML Wiki is going places! Can you also request them to display some slides from Tamil wiki, considering it happens in Madurai? - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gyanpad (Knowledge kiosk) web app: Easy interface to search Wikipedia and sister sites in Indian languages

2010-09-17 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
(copying my response from another list) Good work, Arjuna. (Though not a fan of phonetic keyboards that rely on English alphabet sounds due to long term negative impact,) I tried Tamil and Malayalam and they both work very well. One suggestion would be to handle backspace to erase the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gyanpad (Knowledge kiosk) web app: Easy interface to search Wikipedia and sister sites in Indian languages

2010-09-17 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 8:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gyanpad (Knowledge kiosk) web app: Easy interface to search Wikipedia and sister sites in Indian languages On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com

[Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia crosses the 25, 000 article mark

2010-10-05 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
I'm pleased to inform you all that Tamil Wikipedia has crossed the 25,000 article milestone now. :-) - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal: Wiki Marathon

2010-10-13 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
How will we quantify the efforts on the same day without a theme ? Blind editing on anything can be done on any day. The participants can all sign up on a project page. We then can use Mediawiki's show contributions and show the aggreagate to see the net effect. We may need to do a creative

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aapka Apna Wikipedia

2010-10-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Thanks for sharing it, Bishakha. Journalists do love to mention anecdotes, it seems. :) While there's a good coverage of Tamil Wikipedia like Fred says in his email, it's a good spotlight on all Indian Wikipedias in general. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiBhasha Mediawiki extension

2010-10-18 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
I looked into the architecture and the introduction. It seems to be the open source equivalent of Google Translator tool. It looks promising, because: 1. It's open source and hence bugs can be fixed directly instead of waiting for the company to fix. I speak from my experience of having to do a

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: [Wikipedia-l] International Forum on Access to Culture and Knowledge in the Digital Era: Barcelona 28 -31 October 2010

2010-10-21 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
- Forwarded Message From: Mayo FM lalilar...@gmail.com To: Wikipedia mailing list wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 4:55:39 PM Subject: [Wikipedia-l] International Forum on Access to Culture and Knowledge in the Digital Era: Barcelona 28 -31 October 2010

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mobile editing reading of Wikipedia

2010-10-26 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Ramesh, Could you try http://ml.m.wikipedia.org/ from your phone? (Of course, it'll still need the fonts.) To my knowledge, Malayalam Wikipedia is the only Indian Wikipedia to have a mobile interface (I could be wrong). For Tamil Wikipedia, only the final steps are pending. - Sundar That

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mobile editing reading of Wikipedia

2010-10-27 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
as the contribution from the developers working in Indic language computing increases. Shiju Alex On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:49 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Ramesh, Could you try http://ml.m.wikipedia.org/ from your phone? (Of course, it'll still need the fonts.) To my knowledge

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wikipedia crossed the 15, 000 article mark

2010-11-10 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Congrats! ആശംസകള് :) - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture From: Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wikipedia crossed the 15, 000 article mark

2010-11-10 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
. Regards On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Barry Newstead bnewst...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great news! Congrats. Barry On 11/10/2010 09:44 AM, BalaSundaraRaman wrote: Congrats! ആശംസകള് :) - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Encyclopedia merge into Wikipedia.

2010-11-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Dear Murali, Thanks for your efforts. Natkeeran, an active Tamil Wikipedian, has also downloaded the entire encyclopaedia. He is also stalled at the OCR stage. There are some Tamil OCR projects at IISc Mile lab under Prof.A.G.Ramakrishnan and some other government-supported labs. However, I'm

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Encyclopedia merge into Wikipedia.

2010-11-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Yes, we need to get it under a suitable license. If the technical issue related to OCR is resolved, we can talk to them about releasing the content into public domain. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] support for Indic script

2010-11-15 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hello Mani, You have left out Symbian 9.1 (S60 3rd edition phones) in the table. While they do not natively support Indic languages, there's a slightly roundabout way to read most Indic scripts and other complex scripts. In my Nokia N72, for instance, I've enabled support for complex script

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] support for Indic script

2010-11-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From: BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Ravishankar Ayyakkannu ravishankar.ayyakka...@gmail.com Sent: Tue

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] List of Indian language wiki projects

2010-11-17 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Good start. Added TN Govt supported initiatives and 3 incubated wikis (Konkani Saurashtra, Bodo) in the appropriate pages. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd:Kannada -English Dictionary bot launched

2010-11-22 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Good work Santhosh and team. Hope this makes Kannada Wiktionarians' hard work reach more people. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contribute campaign

2010-11-23 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Yes, we should probably rotate various fonts to cover different writing systems. Can someone take a shot at the font used in http://indiagirl35.bloxode.com/images/122486701453.jpeg That would reflect the curved glyphs of Tamil and Malayalam, plus Telugu and Kannada to an extent. - Sundar

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contribute campaign

2010-11-23 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
: BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 2:42:34 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contribute campaign Yes, we should probably rotate various fonts to cover different writing systems. Can someone take a shot at the font used

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contribute campaign

2010-11-23 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Ravi, If we were to do away with the stereotyping of India, one good way is to rotate different styles from different cultures. It would be really nice to showcase the variety in India. If that would be too much trouble, I agree that a neutral message can be preferred. - Sundar That language

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-24 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
While at it, should the title be changed to something more accurate? Since the list includes Nepali (also the official language of Nepal), Bangla (the national language of Bangladesh, a bulk of edits come from there), Tamil (an official language of Sri Lanka, also a source of a significant

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Meetup in Ahmedabad - 21 November 2010

2010-11-25 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Excellent summary, Anirudh. I'm particularly excited about the prospect of Gujarati Lexicon getting added to Wiktionary. With our experience of uploading several thousand words to Tamil Wiktionary using a custom bot as well as AWB recently, we may be able to help in the task. - Sundar That

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-BD] Updates on Google translation project in Tamil Wikipedia

2010-12-02 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi Ragib, Belayet, Good to see you here. :) Shall I forward your email to the Google Translation team? If they wish so, they can take it from there. What do you think? Cheers, Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-BD] Updates on Google translation project in Tamil Wikipedia

2010-12-02 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Belayet Hossain bella...@gmail.com wrote: Sundar, That will be a nice idea. Please go ahead. They can discuss it in that mailing lists or at local Wikipedia page. Belayet On 3 December 2010 10:56, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Ragib, Belayet

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Commemorative Postmark

2010-12-13 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] W10: Communications Toolkit Phase I

2010-12-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
p Likely to be an early English Wikipedian from India. Should ask users Arvindn, Hemanshu et al./p pArun, was Hemanshu editing before you started?/p p- Sundar/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Looking for Devanagri help - windows this time .

2010-12-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is not Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined encoding works just fine. Please check http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95290 for more info. I'm not on Windows now,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Looking for Devanagri help - windows this time .

2010-12-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
] Looking for Devanagri help - windows this time . In-line :- On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:36, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is not Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Wikimeetup1 @ Kolkata, Dec 2010 Photos

2010-12-19 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi Tinu, From my reading of Srinivas' email, it looks like he meant it as a simple word of caution and as a way of sharing (with the group) a piece of information that he came across recently. Knowing your efforts, he wouldn't have meant anything else, I suppose. So, let's all AGF on this. :)

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Note on Wikimedia stall at FOSS.in

2010-12-21 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Thanks Arjuna. I've done a bit of copyediting. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture From: Arjuna Rao Chavala

[Wikimediaindia-l] Project and volunteer directories

2010-12-21 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi all, We have all witnessed a lot of community activity in the recent months. Be it outreach activities like meetups, bringing out offline editions, conducting contests, writing bots, creating strategies, and what not, there is currently no single place to find them all. Let's put the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Project and volunteer directories

2010-12-22 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
your geograpical area,username and active wikipedias so that we can get in touch with you for a local Wikimeetup or any other Wikimedia event at your city/town. Adding your name in this list is highly optional. Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:48 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Note on Wikimedia stall at FOSS.in

2010-12-22 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Besides, he helped me sneak in for Erik's walkthrough. ;) Thanks PlaneMad Arun. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture -

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages unicode issues.

2010-12-26 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Unicode's decision to bring the second encoding in standard was widely debated and opposed mainly by FOSS developer community from Malayalam. Unicode announced the dual encoding scheme without canonical equivalence definition in 2005 and reverted it when scholars and developers opposed

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Kannada Wikipedia meet-up of 25th December 2010

2010-12-26 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Great to see the momentum with Kannada wiki projects. Congrats for the team. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture From: Hari

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages unicode issues.

2010-12-28 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Fellow and Assistant Research Scientist Dept of Computer Science Johns Hopkins University 3400 N Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Website: http://www.ragibhasan.com On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:29 AM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Unicode's decision to bring

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Have some editing queries, where should I go ?

2010-12-28 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Shirish, https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l would be the best place to discuss this issue. Once you're totally convinced it should have that level of security, you can file a request at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ - Sundar That language is an instrument of human

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages unicode issues.

2010-12-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
they occur in inappropriate places. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From: BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages unicode issues.

2010-12-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Thanks Santhosh for the excellent resource (http://unicode.org/reports/tr31/). But for Tamil, I am not aware of any valid pattern where ZWJ or ZWNJ is valid. It's valid only to force the decomposition of ksha (க்ஷ) into k- (க்) followed by sha (ஷ). It's an extremely rare and only an

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Have some editing queries, where should I go ?

2010-12-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
accessible through https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page (for different language versions and projects you have to manipulate the url a bit, e.g. change the en to the language code you need). Best regards, Bence On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 8:07 AM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe

[Wikimediaindia-l] India tech list?

2010-12-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Glad to see more tech discussions in the WikimediaIndia list. Is this a good time to fork an India Tech list? I'd prefer though not to split if people who are not interested in tech issues do not mind having those discussions here. Thoughts? - Sundar That language is an instrument of human

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India tech list?

2010-12-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
at 5:11 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Thoughts? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26436 anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2011 registration and scholarship application to begin on January 1st!

2011-01-01 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Thanks for sending this, Delphine. I'm sure many community members would make good use of the scholarships. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-hyd] Anniversary event in Hyderabad

2011-01-11 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Ravi, (dropped Hyd mailing list and added wikita-l and Steven Walling into the loop) Thanks for the alert. Both events do seem suspect. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiX-l] India specific Designs / Artwork for Wikipedia 10

2011-01-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
so does that mean that files created in GIMP cant be printed in big sizes ? Unlike svg files, other format images do not scale well. Some svg files can scale infinitely. Inkscape is available on Ubuntu as well. I took the liberty to add Shymal L to the loop. He's our resident expert for svg

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiX-l] India specific Designs / Artwork for Wikipedia 10

2011-01-13 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture From: BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Tony Thomas tony.tho...@oneindia.co.in; Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org; Planning for WP

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Banners, India

2011-01-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
HPN, Good work with the banners. I liked the way you have placed the various script families spread out in the banner. Of course, we can add as many more language scripts as possible to the list. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Celebrations -- Summary

2011-01-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Great to know this. Thanks for everyone Manian, Mahir, Paridhimathi, Ravichandar, Theni.Subramani, and Srikanth for making this event a success. I'm pretty impressed with the attendance given that the event happened on Pongal day! சென்னை நிகழ்வை ஒருங்கிணைத்து நடத்திய மணியன், மாகிர், பரிதிமதி,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from India

2011-01-16 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Congrats, Achal. Your area of research is very interesting and has a huge potential fallout. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-25 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
pCongrats to all Malayalam Wikipedians on this milestone!br/p p- Sundar/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
+1. Yes, milestones are nice things to celebrate, but not something to start regarding as a metric. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award

[Wikimediaindia-l] Why do new users create accounts on Wikipedia?

2011-01-27 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Lennart is organising a survey to understand why users register in Wikipedia at all. During the first phase, English, German, French, Spanish, Swedish, Bengali and Bahasa Melayu are targetted. Some preliminary results are given at:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Praveen, You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki friends. ;) We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation in one of the finest Indian wikis. So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome them to there

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-blr] 10, 000+ articles on Kannada Wikipedia

2011-01-27 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Congrats once again to all Kannada wikians contriuting to the Wikipedia and Wiktionary. IIRC, this was a gift in time for WP TEN. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] What is page depth was Re: Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Depth - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From: shirish शिरीष

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
:16 AM, BalaSundaraRaman wrote: Hi Praveen, Unfortunately I cannot find any fun there. And provoking is not an option in collaboration. You could have just ask. I do agree. I was only referring to the incidental fallout of you getting provoked. I wouldn't support

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] GSOC 2011

2011-01-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Thanks Santhosh. I've forwarded it to my alumni list. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter

2011-01-30 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
I rmember I asked about chapter's future plans in one of the other threads, but still no answer. Is there any basic ideas about future activities? Where I can find them? Praveen, http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Main_Page is the place where chapter activities are discussed. By the way, the chapter

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter

2011-01-30 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Praveen, Forgot to answer one of your questions: Nos of edit is not criteria. The chapter created as society so there must be voting system. So not worry!! Then what was the criteria? While there's no hard criteria that I can give,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Photos from Wikipedia meetup, Mangalore - Jan 29, 2011

2011-01-30 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Good to know, HPN. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture From: Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India List

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] troubleshooting Wikipedia for schools offline project

2011-01-31 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
(copied Tamil Wiki list) Hi Nikhil, I appreciate your efforts. Request: I want to get an Offline edition of the Hindi, Marathi and Gujrati Wikipedia. (Indian languages) - preferably in the .ZIM format. I read about Malayalam / Tamil offline versions being in the works, but not in .ZIM

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SMS WIkipedia app in India

2011-02-02 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Yes, Asaf, the cost for one SMS would be approximately 50 paise or 0.01 USD. For certain subscription plans, SMS will be free upto a ceiling of 250 or more per month. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche, Chennai

2011-02-03 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi, As part of the FOSS event called Carte Blanche (http://cb.csmit.org/) to be held at the Madras Institute of Technology, a Wikipedia workshop is being conducted on February 6 between 9:30 am and 4:30 pm. Following is the proposal, the exact timings will be finalised soon. * English

[Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
committee now constitutes of: * Arjuna Rao Chavala, President * Hari Prasad HS, Secretary * Anirudh Singh Bhati, Treasurer * Arun Ramarathnam, Member * BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Member * Gautam K John, Member * Srinivas Gunta, Member We

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
pTinu,/p pI'm traveling and hence can't respond until tomorrow. I'm sure other EC members would respond by that time./p p- Sundar/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Bengali wiki in Dec 2010

2011-02-09 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Indicates some heavy maintenance activity. One indicator is that there's 231% growth in the number of redirects. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] :The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts

2011-02-09 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
and therefore effective. Thanks, GerardM On 8 February 2011 16:08, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: My guess is that it is 100% possible, Gerard. I proposed doing this for Konkani, Kashmiri, and if at all acceptable, for Punjabi. - Sundar Sent from Yahoo! Mail

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] :The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts

2011-02-10 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
scripts On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Gerard, It'll be good if someone who can read both Kannada and Devanagari scripts can do this. I'm not proficient with Kannada script. Will give it a shot if nobody else volunteers for this. Santhosh

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: [Wikipedia-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
FYI. We noticed some issues (like some custom tools not working) related to this in Tamil Wikipedia. Not sure whether all issues are resolved. Please check if other wikis are affected by this. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] Thanks for the wikipedia session at MIT

2011-02-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Thanks Shrinivasan. I've copied the Wikimedia India mailing list for wider reach. I hope the top priority requirements for Wiki projects related to India will be added to http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=Projects_List - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

2011-02-13 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Jyotis, (This is my personal view.) I concur with the broad idea behind points 3-7 though specifics need to be worked out to suit the legal entity that the chapter is. In fact, some of these have been addressed in the MoA, I think. However, what is the additional role that you envisage for the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche, Chennai

2011-02-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From: BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com To: Discussion list on Indian language projects

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages

2011-02-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi Santhosh, Good work with the library. I tried a few pages like பட்டாம்பூச்சி, மாந்தவுருவகம் etc., and I got an error. However, it worked for the Tamil Wiki example you cited, இலங்கை and the Malayalam wiki example Mango. Some quirks: 1. insertion of intra-word spacing (like Srikanth and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche, Chennai

2011-02-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
To: BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com Cc: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikita wikit...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 9:57:46 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-chn

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche, Chennai

2011-02-14 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From: BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com To: Discussion list on Indian language

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