Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Bangalore Meet-up April 11, 2010

2010-04-13 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Bishaka, Welcome to Wikipedia. No ill-feelings :) I have had similar misreporting experiences with media. One way for better media management will be to take minutes during the meeting and handing over a formal written press release to the media people. We can also give contact numbers to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Bangalore Meet-up April 11, 2010

2010-04-13 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, 1. Whether they take or not, this will be a professional way for us to do. This will also be a good way to document our activities. 2. And if they take, it is a good chance for us to convey the exact message as it is. During the press conference on Tamil Wiki contest, while many

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Bangalore Meet-up April 11, 2010

2010-04-14 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, We have selected such spokespersons through a vote in Tamil Wikipedia itself. (similar to sysop voting process). Since Tamil Wiki is a close knit community, we proposed around 12 names and all were elected unanimously. After having this team of 12, we form subgroups for various

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Bangalore Meet-up April 11, 2010

2010-04-14 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, Thanks for the understanding. An ideal and desirable state will be that the WMF, Local chapters and Local Wiki communities all co-exist with autonomy and facilitate each other's function rather than routing everything through one or another. Regards, Ravi On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at

[Wikimediaindia-l] Number of local Wikipedians

2010-04-17 Thread Ravishankar
Hi all, The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is interesting. Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects. One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active contributors are present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct

[Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

2010-04-20 Thread Ravishankar
Hi all, An update on the Google translated articles issue in Tamil Wiki. We exchanged few emails with the Google team and had a conference call once and the progress so far has been: * Google gets our approval on article topics before translating. * Some of the software issues have been

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

2010-04-20 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Shiju, Ramesh Thanks for the input. Can you update the status in ml wiki regarding Google translated articles? Seems it is banned in Bengali Wikipedia. We understand that this project is run in many Indian language Wikis but not sure of the exact list. Manish, This whole conversation is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Number of local Wikipedians

2010-04-20 Thread Ravishankar
://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam Minor tweaking of template is required. We will help to fix it. Shiju On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Shiju. Should see if we can make sense from the malayalam page. Else, an english tutorial will be appreciated

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: [Board-l] Fwd: Fwd: Philosophical view on Google translated articles

2010-04-24 Thread Ravishankar
just checked out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid_editing. Best Bishakha -- Forwarded message -- From: *Ravishankar* ravidre...@gmail.com mailto:ravidre...@gmail.com ravidre...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:19 PM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contact info for bengali wikipedians

2010-07-13 Thread Ravishankar
Thanks Casey. I could get more contact numbers after leaving a message in bn wiki itself. (should have that first :) ) May be it is a good idea to create a central page somewhere (and have a copy of it in each wiki's embassy) with emails, phone numbers of media contacts for indic language wiki.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contact info for bengali wikipedians

2010-07-13 Thread Ravishankar
If you can send upto 3 contacts per each wiki, I can compile the list and put it in appropriate place. meaning, if people from each wiki can nominate 3 contacts... ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contact info for bengali wikipedians

2010-07-15 Thread Ravishankar
No problem bellayat. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100714/jsp/frontpage/story_12681775.jsp http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100714/jsp/frontpage/story_12681775.jspRavi On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Belayet Hossain bella...@gmail.comwrote: Since I was in flight, not able to response you

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please help test geolocation

2010-08-10 Thread Ravishankar
Eric, Good tool. Can this be used to display banners country wide or state wide? Many Indian Wikipedian users don't even know about the existance of regional language Wikipedias. So, if we can display a banner at the top giving links to regional Wikipedias, it will greatly boost the awareness

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Question for Hindi Wikipedians

2010-09-21 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, I am not surprised at the low edit rate of Hindi. What surprises me is the high and comparable rates in other wikis :) I assume that web users just sign up in many sites with expectations like some premium features etc., The biggest barrier to increasing contribution to Wikipedia is that

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki meetup 19 at Bangalore - 2010 September 24

2010-09-22 Thread Ravishankar
On the occasion of Babri-masjid case judgment, how advisable is it to travel Bangalore for the meetup? http://sify.com/news/ayodhya-verdict-two-day-holiday-for-karnataka-schools-news-national-kjwragbcgfb.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

[Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal: Wiki Marathon

2010-10-11 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, An idea / proposal for the next Wiki meetups: There has been lot of talk. So would like to see some action :) Can we decide a Sunday in next month and call for meetups in all cities at the same time? This time can be a bit extended the usual duration. Say, 4-6 hours? During this time, all

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal: Wiki Marathon

2010-10-14 Thread Ravishankar
1. Any name is fine. 2. Should we bring media for everything ? :) We can have a first shot next month and arrange such events on special occasions if we would like to bring media in. 3. If we force a theme, I myself will lose interest in participating. The basic idea is to give a a taste of wiki

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal: Wiki Marathon

2010-10-19 Thread Ravishankar
We have started a project page in Tamil Wikipedia for the proposed Wikithon (guess we have consensus on this name ) and people are already signing up. If all interested Indic language Wiki communities can discuss this in their village pumps, then we can coordinate the info in Wikimedia.in ravi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal: Wiki Marathon

2010-10-27 Thread Ravishankar
, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: We have started a project page in Tamil Wikipedia for the proposed Wikithon (guess we have consensus on this name ) and people are already signing up. If all interested Indic language Wiki communities can discuss this in their village

[Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Wiki Meetup + Wiki Marathon on November 14, 2010

2010-10-30 Thread Ravishankar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal: Wiki Marathon

2010-11-13 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Just a gentle reminder about the first Wiki Marathon starting in few hours. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India/Marathon1 The chennai, Bangalore Wiki Meetups, Tamil Wikipedians from all over the world will take part in this. It will be nice if the Delhi Meetup can also

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wiktionary now Top 10 globally

2010-11-16 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Thanks everyone for the wishes. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contribute campaign

2010-11-23 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Salmaan, I will share my ideas soon. But, please consider using non-hindi / devanagri styled english fonts for indic promotion drives. We are tired seeing this Hindi = India thing everywhere. Please consider that many of the south indian languages have very active wiki communities. Ravi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wiktionary in use

2010-11-23 Thread Ravishankar
Good Work Malayalam Wiktionarians. Some Tamil developers are interested in creating a downloadable dictionary based on Wiktionary. The use could be tremendous in mobile phones. If anyone is interested we can get connected. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Contribute campaign

2010-11-23 Thread Ravishankar
Sundar, need not search for dravidian looking fonts :) just don't project devanagiri looking fonts alone :) any aesthetic english font is fine. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikimediaindia-l] Performing Indic Wikipedias

2010-11-24 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Based on Erik's Indic Wiki stats, I did an analysis for reach of Indic Wikipedias. Wikis having at least 1000 views an hour and 1 Million population were taken for this. Page views per article per hour indicates the overall usefulness of articles. Page views per million speakers indicates

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] indiawikipedia ?

2010-11-30 Thread Ravishankar
I think they use it in the sense Wikipedia = Encyclopedia (they are covering India related news). Like Xerox machine became synonymous with photo copying. People might even mistake any wiki for Wikimedia projects. Probably there are 100s of sites like this all over the world. Unless someone is

[Wikimediaindia-l] Updates on Google translation project in Tamil Wikipedia

2010-12-02 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Some updates on the Google translation project in Tamil Wikipedia. ( Refer http://bit.ly/adRtak for some background info ) The project started around August 2009 and went on continuously till August 2010 and added 1000+ articles. During May 2010 - August 2010, we reduced adding new

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 84%. Pune School Chldren refer Wikipedia, stats

2010-12-18 Thread Ravishankar
It says //The survey found that 88% have home access to computers and 62% are cyber cafe regulars. // which indicates that the survey respondents may be from higher income group and english medium convent schools. We can safely assume anyone who uses Internet and search will land in Wikipedia.

[Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wiki workshop in Eastern University, SriLanka

2010-12-28 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Tamil Wikipedians from SriLanka conducted a Tamil Wikipedia Workshop at Eastern University of Srilanka on 28th December. Around 55 people including lecturers, employees, students, visitors from nearby institutions participated. This is the first organized Wiki meetup / workshop in SriLanka

[Wikimediaindia-l] India specific banners in en wiki, meta

2011-01-10 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Today, I could see India specific promo banners in en wiki, meta wiki. Are these geo-targeted banners? It will be great then. Would like to know more details on creating more such banners. Thanks, Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-hyd] Anniversary event in Hyderabad

2011-01-11 Thread Ravishankar
Just now found two events in Tamilnadu organized by people whose wiki involvement is not recognizable. Found a spamy link too. Raised an alert notice in respective pages and left the details in talk pages. http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podanur http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coimbatore

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread Ravishankar
Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread Ravishankar
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:59 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: +1. Yes, milestones are nice things to celebrate, but not something to start regarding as a metric. +1 :) When you start comparing with other wikis then it becomes a metric. And depth is the only metric related

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread Ravishankar
It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental to depth. So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :) Hi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Survey regarding Indic wikis

2011-02-02 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Mayur, Interesting analysis. Thanks for the hard work. Is there any academic reference based on which the formula was arrived or is it empirical? One possible indicator for a Wikipedia's quality may be offline activisim / organizing as it indicates the community's rapport which is very vital

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SMS WIkipedia app in India

2011-02-02 Thread Ravishankar
I tried the following: @wikipedia Tamil it gives: Tamil may refer to: (which is the first line and has a paragraph break after that. so it gives text until there is a paragraph break) @wikipedia ta:AU (which is a redirect page in Tamil Wikipedia for Astronomical Unit with a active Tamil

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Survey regarding Indic wikis

2011-02-02 Thread Ravishankar
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:18 PM, mayur mayur...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I choose many important factors that was available in wikimedia stats, The formula was derived by me but as a past student of economics i tried to do my best, basically i marked each factor on the scale of 100 so that no

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google Translation on Indian language Wikipedias Paid editing

2011-02-04 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Bala, Thanks for the stats. On Google: While we have no new Google articles for the last 5 months, around 600 articles get created every month in Tamil Wikipedia. So concerning Tamil Wikipedia's case, Google has not contributed much article number wise. But all their articles are very

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google Translation on Indian language Wikipedias Paid editing

2011-02-04 Thread Ravishankar
fluent in Hindi. So can somebody post a link or two of translated hindi article/s so one can see how to note /notice if an article is translated . While the translated article is posted, there will be a edit summary that mentions the articles is translated using Google Translation Kit. This

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Bangalore Photowalk, Bangalore loves Wikipedia #2

2011-02-07 Thread Ravishankar
Good effort, Hari. May be we need to network with photo enthusiasts in each city to do events like this. Ravi On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a photo from Saturday's event: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hpnadig/5418774809/ There were 28

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 10,000+ articles on Kannada Wikipedia

2011-02-07 Thread Ravishankar
Congrats for the Kannada Wikimedians. Kannada Wikipedia was one of the earliest Indo Wikipedias to be active. Good to see it in action again. Hopefully, the general activity in Bangalore around Wikipedia will also help spread awareness about Kannada Wikipedia. Ravi On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:12

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A report on the Trichy wikimeetup/workshop

2011-02-21 Thread Ravishankar
Awesome report, Bala. I am waiting for the day when kids of first generation Wikipedians start editing too :) ( Analogy: The university, school I attended were many decades old who had many such next generation students from same family ) Ravi ___

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recent Tamil Wiki outreach efforts

2011-03-01 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Subhashish, Tinu Thanks for your wishes. Just to clarify, I was personally involved in only one of the workshops. Most of the workshops were team efforts including help coming from non-Tamil Wikipedians too. Mainly, people like User:Sodabottle, User:Logicwiki (Srikanth Lakshmanan), Mahir,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Choosing topics for Wikipedia for Schools (Offline Ed) - Indian version : #1 Cities

2011-03-10 Thread Ravishankar
Note: By 'we' I am referring to the persons actively and voluntarily taking part in this project, not the naysayers. As of now only Ashlin seems to have done any effort at all - hence all the others who have raised some concern or the other while loosely but visibly alleging that wikipedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Broadband growth in India

2011-03-18 Thread Ravishankar
Any stats on mobile broadband users, 3G and GPRS based internet users? This may be a considerable number and will continue to increase. Increase in views for Indic language Wikipedias can also be due to non-resident citizens. For languages like Bengali and Tamil present in more than one country,

[Wikimediaindia-l] Quantity Vs Quality: Hindi Wikipedia story

2011-03-18 Thread Ravishankar
http://ut7.in/2011/03/quantity-over-quality-the-sad-story-of-hindi-wikipedia/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : India is No.6 in donating to Wikipedia

2011-03-19 Thread Ravishankar
If the Indian chapter / Foundation will allow donations by Net banking, may be more people can donate. Not all have credit card / Paypal. Ravi On 19 March 2011 04:34, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: *The Hindu : India is No.6 in donating to Wikipedia*

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Srikanth, Well done on the URL shortening work. Wikimedia should take this and do a centralized shortening service. If each Wikimedia project is going to have different domain names Wikimedia branding value gets diluted. Also, the domain names, service need to be maintained forever and can't

[Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Wikimedia projects SEO

2011-03-31 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Some thoughts on SEO for Indic Wikimedia projects: 1. URL redirects / shortners won't help in SEO. First, search engines may not index them. Second, they won't give much value for them. So, any design for URL shortening should keep in mind only the usability aspect. 2. Keywords Meta tag is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Angry with Wikileaks, Indian Union minister for law and justice Veerappa Moily lashes against Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Facebook, Twitter campaign by ourselves will help. I can see some doing it already. The Indian Wikimedia chapter can consider circulating a press release clarifying this. A banner campaign can be the last resort. Ravi On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Shiju, In fact redirect pages are very much required for each wiki article. We never know what all keywords people will use to search for wiki articles. All the possible keywords should be made redirects. In fact if you are not creating the redirect page *India* for the article

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Deletion (aka genocide) of articles

2011-03-31 Thread Ravishankar
HI Nikhil, A request first: When you address specific issues based on your experience from a particular Wikipedia, please be candid about the details. Because, it will help to see the issue clearly and won't annoy Wikipedians from other languages. Some practices in Tamil Wikipedia regarding

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Ravishankar
So you'll have URLs like http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/262. While definitely longer than http://tawp.in/r/262, it can be made much shorter via a simple apache mod_rewrite so http://ta.wikipedia.org/r/262 also works. Way to go ! Thanks and congrats Yuvi. Ravi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] The Hindu : Malayalam Wiki all set to expand database

2011-04-07 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Someone should help create a template to keep congratulating ml wikimedians :) Ravi On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:06 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: *The Hindu : Malayalam Wiki all set to expand database*

[Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Meetup 4 at Hyderabad on 15th May

2011-05-18 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, On 15th May, we had the 4th Wikimedia meetup at Hyderabad as planned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MHB4 Around 20 people attended. We had participants from Telugu Wikipedia, Tamil Wikipedia, English Wikipedia and Esperanto Wikipedia and few new comers. We had an open agenda with

[Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project closing down

2011-06-05 Thread Ravishankar
In a recent mail to the google group regarding Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project, Dimple Batra from Google reported: We are in the process of closing down the wikipedia indic language translation project. We had initiated this project to bootstrap the creation of indic content and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Delhi Chapter (User:AroundTheGlobe)

2011-06-06 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Mayur, Not Only Chapter But also Foundation Activities are Totally Focused towards South India.WE are not Blaming the chapter for this but A New Chapter in New Delhi will make more Opportunity to grow Wikimedia movement in the Biggest Educational City of India which has been completely

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project closing down

2011-06-06 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Gautam, I am not sure if this is related with them closing down other Indic related projects. Two guesses: 1. They might have started these projects with a goal of collecting some data and they might have met it. 2. They might have found the Indic market less profitable at the moment and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project closing down

2011-06-06 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Gautam, Sorry if I was not clear. Without mutual benefit no entity would enter a partnership. If a Wikipedia partners with a local museum, then it is win-win as the Wikipedia will get more content and the museum's collection is digitised. But I couldn't imagine lots of commercial cases

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Membership and Community engagement-June2011

2011-06-07 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Arjuna, Great report and hard work. Please accept my appreciation for all chapter members involved in these efforts. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Sometime before, we used the word meanings from a technical glossary provided by Tamil Virtual University for the Tamil Wiktionary project. Our rational is that only the presentation can be copyrighted and not the word or meaning. If the word or meaning itself is copyrighted, then there is no

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD released

2011-06-11 Thread Ravishankar
Great work by Malayalam Wikimedia team again ! Besides the collection, the amount and quality of technical work involved in producing a usuable CD is highly laudable. The annual Wikimedia meetup for a language is also one of its kind for Indic languages. I will definitely watch the next year's

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Social Media Partner

2011-08-17 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Will appreciate if you could move Wikiconference India announcements to a separate mailing list for those who are interested. Thanks, Ravi On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:05 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Hiya, Looking for a Social Media Partner for the WCI 2011, we have received

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] News from the Chapter and the Conference

2011-08-27 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Gautham, Here are two ways: 1. Chapter shall conduct IRC discussions with each langauge community at least once in few months. It is best done one community at a time to give more time and space for each of them. Not all language community members are in India and not all can become chapter

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] News from the Chapter and the Conference

2011-08-27 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Naveen, Srikanth Lakshmanan is already active in Tamil Wikimedia informing about WikiConference India happenings. http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VP will be a good place to leave further messages. Thanks, Ravi On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Notices on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-09-13 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Bala, Srikanth Thanks for the report on the site notice experiment. Initially, we started tracking the new editors manually at http://tawp.in/r/2gk8 and within 6 days noted 14 new editors. This is quite unusual from a Tamil Wikipedia perspective. Meaningful edits from new contributors come

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition

2011-11-10 Thread Ravishankar
Arjuna, I am not very excited with this idea of a jury for picking noteworthy Wikimedians. 1. Many noteworthy Wikimedians are serving in Jury, conference activities, chapter and WMF. Omitting them from the recognition will not give a real picture to the public. 2. Having a jury to pick this

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Topics for my talk @wikiconference India

2011-11-12 Thread Ravishankar
Barry, In last Wikimania, Jimmy Wales gave a Global Wikipedian of the year award for the phenomenal work done in Khazak Wiki. http://en.tengrinews.kz/internet/3813/ But, we couldn't learn in detail about their work. Similarly, there will be many growing global Wikipedia communities that face

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition

2011-11-12 Thread Ravishankar
keypoints behind the initiative, which was discussed with EC and other stakeholders, so I will be brief.  Additional responses inline.. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011  at 6:11 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Arjuna, I am not very excited with this idea of a jury for picking noteworthy

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 41, Issue 49

2011-11-15 Thread Ravishankar
Pratik, //*All I can say is that EVERY KING WAS ONCE A CRYING BABY. Remember the day when you created your account on wikipedia. With all due respect to your edit count at present and your current status at wiki, you were also a KID on wikipedia at that day. A KID who has grown up now and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 41, Issue 49

2011-11-16 Thread Ravishankar
Corrected: *Wikipedia is a very organic community. Unless the programs from WMF or any other organization understand and adapt to this, they can be sustained or scaled.* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Noteworthy Wikimedian recognition and Jury mention

2011-11-24 Thread Ravishankar
Arun, While all the noteworthy Wikimedians announced and jury mentions are good, I am very disappointed that some of the very outstanding nominations are left out for unknown reasons. There is no need to limit the number of selections if documentation, learning is the motive. I resisted

[Wikimediaindia-l] Need your suggestions...

2011-11-24 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Shrinivasan, Hope your married life is going great. I need your suggestions for couple of things: * I created a meetp group for WordPress lovers in Chennai at http://www.meetup.com/WordPress-Chennai/ Can this be announced in your blog at http://www.ilugc.in/ I saw a Drupal meetup being

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Need your suggestions...

2011-11-24 Thread Ravishankar
Hi all, Please ignore this mail. It was sent by mistake to this mailing list. I am really sorry for the inconvenience. Ravi On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shrinivasan, Hope your married life is going great. I need your suggestions for couple

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting the languages of India

2011-11-30 Thread Ravishankar
Gerard, The one thing I have come to understand is that many native speakers of Indic languages are effectively illiterate in their own language. The combination of highly educated people being functionally illiterate had me talking with many people. From

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting the languages of India

2011-11-30 Thread Ravishankar
Ashwin, On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: The aggressive/offended tone in a couple of posts on this thread distresses me. I humbly request that all respondents may please tone down any agression you may feel. Gerard is trying to understand Indian

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting the languages of India

2011-12-01 Thread Ravishankar
Hi All, What many of us are sharing here are personal experiences, anecdotes from one section of the community pyramid that Gerard mentioned. This can only lead to inaccurate inferences about Indic languages. So, let's do some objective analysis: Based on

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting the languages of India

2011-12-01 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, Thanks for the correction. Take away point: Huge majority of the Indians are not illiterate in their mother languages. This statistical information should not be overlooked based on personal experiences. Ravi On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-14 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, //Wait, no one called us critics. I mentioned it myself, since people felt our mail as criticism. If giving critical feedback is being criticism, am happy to be critic.// Thanks for the clarification. Santhosh, //Platonides(not an i18n team member)// Thank you for the clarification

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-14 Thread Ravishankar
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site. +1. Similar stats can be

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam

2011-12-15 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Tinu, Bala and team Very well written press release. Especially, I would like to appreciate Tinu's stellar role in media relations for Wikimedia projects in India :) Ravi On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:03 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The article is on national editions

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader

2011-12-15 Thread Ravishankar
Excellent effort, Shrinivasan. Please let us know how and where we can find more people like you ;) Ravi On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Friends. Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons media files like photos, audio and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam

2011-12-16 Thread Ravishankar
Tinu, Shrinivasan I don't think we need to be so 'scared about copyright violation. News is not news if it does not spread. If we still need to adhere to their notice, we can post an excerpt with a link to their article URL which should be perfectly OK. Ravi On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:18 PM,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] What's in it for me?

2011-12-16 Thread Ravishankar
+1 for Eric and Barry. Though we can list benefits like better writing skills, networking with similar people, global audience for our content, it is very hard to make someone a returning contributor based on these. Global / Indian education program is a good example. Even after intense and

[Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available in Tamil. Very neatly done as it somehow detected that I am from Tamilnadu. See the screenshot at: http://ravidreams.com/ta-wordpress.png A similar announcement in English Wiki projects is sure to double or triple

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Subha, If you check WordPress.com it shows all available Indic languages. If you check WordPress.org, I think it is showing only Tamil (may be because as you said it is the only translation available and that too for Srilankan Tamil : ) But the point is: Even if you show all available Indic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
A single line like Wikipedia is also available in Bengali, Hind, Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil at the top and to the left of Login/create account link will be fine. The line can be as what you see in http://www.google.co.in/ . If we feel showing too many languages is clutter, show random and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, Even if only x% (or say people who wear white shirt on Monday evenings) are going to see this notice, it is still useful and not going to hurt the project in anyway. Unless the community stands united and requests this feature, it will not happen any sooner. So, let us not loose steam

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Conclusion, it did not make a dent. Most people dismissed the banners, and never clicked, those that did, never followed to edit. It made little to no difference in the visitor or editor stats for the period. Theo, Clearly, links in sidebars are not getting enough eyeballs. It is also hard

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Ravishankar
This is a really useful discussion and there's a powerful idea. I agree with Ravi that there is an opportunity to build awareness and traffic to Indic language sites. While we are already seeing considerable readership of Indic languages, there's clearly a lot more that can be done to

[Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

2011-12-21 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, I did some testing on how the recently released Android ICS supports Indic languages. *Tamil, Bengali, Marathi and Hindi are the only Indian languages supported for now*. Oh ya, it can also show English well without a problem ;) You can view the findings in details at

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic has arrived! -- on devices !!

2011-12-21 Thread Ravishankar
Gerard, I could not view the web fonts. Should I configure something? By the way, Android ICS supports Tamil, Bengali, Marathi and Hindi even without web fonts. Please see my detailed report on another mail titled Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages. Thanks, Ravi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

2011-12-21 Thread Ravishankar
I wouldn't say supported. Language support generally includes: - display/rendering - input - keyboard layouts - fonts Only few years before even PCs supported all of these and it will take more years to get this in all gadgets. So, the only expectation now is to at least display the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Summary and perspectives from Discussions with Indic language wikimedians - 2011

2011-12-24 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Shiju, Thanks for the excellent analysis on Indic Wikipedia communities. When I consider community building, I think of 5 broad aspects: 1. Editor retention 2. Attracting newbies 3. Community communication 4. Community collaboration and 5. Community celebration Based

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Summary and perspectives from Discussions with Indic language wikimedians - 2011

2011-12-24 Thread Ravishankar
HI Srikanth R, On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Ravi, while the idea of having English editors help out on Indic wikis sounds good, it isn't feasible. Most Indic editors distrust us English editors and remain aloof from us. Indic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader

2011-12-27 Thread Ravishankar
Hi Shrinivasan, I just used this tool and found the upload process much easier. Initially, I tried uploading multiple images in the web and abandoned it. I am sure that this will motivate me to upload more images. Thanks a ton. Ravi On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Shrinivasan T

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship applications, deadline 16 Feb

2012-01-18 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Thank you for the information regarding Wikimania scholarships. I have posted info regarding scholarship availability and call for presentation in Tamil Wikipedia village pump and request each community to do so. Since I got the scholarship last year, I have decided not to apply for a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Proposal: Wikipedia participation at 'Kolkata Book Fair 2012'

2012-01-21 Thread Ravishankar
Jayanta, Kalyan and other Bengali Wikipedians It is sad that after your best efforts the plan did not materialize. But, I appreciate dropping the plan considering the cost and other issues. One way to make best use of book fair is to sell books / CDs based on Wikipedias. Don't just use them for

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Proposal: Wikipedia participation at 'Kolkata Book Fair 2012'

2012-01-21 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 16:54, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: * Try using services like http://pediapress.com/ or tie up with a local publisher to print books regarding Kolkatta, West Bengal

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