Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : Pune Mirror : Will Google Maps lead people astray, the Wikipedia way?
*In 2009, it was forced to recruit 20,000 editors to stop falsification of entries * Lol, as if they have that kind of money... ;) So it didn't have any editors at all prior to 2009, h, interesting!! So all those edits were put there by aliens it seems! :P Nikhil On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Shirish, I was just taking an example. Is the Bus Company to blame for a bus not having a closed door, when someone gets off with buying a ticket? Same here. As an ediotr, reviewer, Recent Changes and New Page patroller, most people have no idea how much effort we put into keeping articles vandalism free and clean.. Keeping Vandals at bay is NOT an easy taks. Maybe the author of that article should try using Huggle one day. -- Regards, 2011/4/24 shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com At bottom :- On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 19:11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, Is Wikipedia to blame for being open? Is Google to blame for Android being open? Think about it that way. --Regards, Btw Android is not really open. Please see http://lwn.net/Articles/435342/ . Its a 'business decision' . They did get quite a bit slammed on it on slashdot and others when Honeycomb code drop was taken aback for 'when its ready' . Just my 2 paise. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : Pune Mirror : Will Google Maps lead people astray, the Wikipedia way?
Heya, Umm.. Found this on Daily Mail, I believe, it needs to be further traced. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1379022/Google-Map-Maker-launched-America.html Same article incorporated into it. --Regards, On 26 April 2011 17:20, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: So, how come I created articles in 2007 and 2008? -- Srikanth On 26 April 2011 16:25, Nikhil Sheth nikhil...@gmail.com wrote: *In 2009, it was forced to recruit 20,000 editors to stop falsification of entries * Lol, as if they have that kind of money... ;) So it didn't have any editors at all prior to 2009, h, interesting!! So all those edits were put there by aliens it seems! :P Nikhil On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Shirish, I was just taking an example. Is the Bus Company to blame for a bus not having a closed door, when someone gets off with buying a ticket? Same here. As an ediotr, reviewer, Recent Changes and New Page patroller, most people have no idea how much effort we put into keeping articles vandalism free and clean.. Keeping Vandals at bay is NOT an easy taks. Maybe the author of that article should try using Huggle one day. -- Regards, 2011/4/24 shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com At bottom :- On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 19:11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, Is Wikipedia to blame for being open? Is Google to blame for Android being open? Think about it that way. --Regards, Btw Android is not really open. Please see http://lwn.net/Articles/435342/ . Its a 'business decision' . They did get quite a bit slammed on it on slashdot and others when Honeycomb code drop was taken aback for 'when its ready' . Just my 2 paise. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : Pune Mirror : Will Google Maps lead people astray, the Wikipedia way?
Interestingly a slightly negative story on Wikipedia in India after a long time. There's some pretty impressive mistakes and assertions in this article (copied below), in particular: * Many of us have also been tricked by faulty or falsified information on Wikipedia, which is edited by users who are often tempted into leading others astray. * Originally, Wikipedia allowed anyone to update its entries ... In 2009, it was forced to recruit 20,000 editors to stop falsification of entries. *Pune Mirror : Will Google Maps lead people astray, the Wikipedia way?* http://www.punemirror.in/article/26/20110423201104240122415581039affe/Will-Google-Maps-lead-people-astray-the-Wikipedia-way.html *With the launch of the new Map Maker application in the US, Google Maps can be edited by anybody, putting a question mark on the reliability of its content* * * *New York: Almost all of us have been tricked by a faulty GPS into taking a wrong turn, driving down a dead end road, in extreme cases even driving into rivers or to the edge of cliffs. Many of us have also been tricked by faulty or falsified information on Wikipedia, which is edited by users who are often tempted into leading others astray. * * * *Now, Google is set to combine both dangers into one with the launch of Map Maker in the US, reports Daily Mail. Map Maker is a web-based application that allows users to edit Google Maps using their own local knowledge of an area. It takes advantage of crowd-sourcing to map the parts * *of the world that even Google can’t get to. * * * *Crowd outsourcing* * * *“You know your neighbourhood or hometown best,” Google Map Maker tech lead Lalitesh Katragadda and product manager Manik Gupta said in a blog post. “With Google Map Maker, you can ensure the places you care about are richly represented on the map. For example, you can fix the name of your local pizza parlour, or add a description of your favourite book store.” * * * *Users are also encouraged to add bike lanes, walking paths, secret shortcuts, parking lots, and any other details they can think of using Map Maker. * * * * * *The suggestions are set to be reviewed before being published. “After approval, the edits will appear in Google Maps within minutes — dramatically speeding up the time it takes for online maps to reflect the often-changing physical world,” the blog post read.* * * *Wikipedia controversies* * * *Originally, Wikipedia allowed anyone to update its entries. But a series of malicious incidents — including changes to George W Bush’s page that saw it having to be corrected an incredible 40,000 times, and an entry giving former British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s middle name as ‘Whoop de doo’ — soon forced the site to rethink its policy.In 2009, it was forced to recruit 20,000 editors to stop falsification of entries. * * * *Review of changes* * * *Map Maker, perhaps learning from that lesson, is set to review changes before they are published. How exactly the changes will be reviewed, however, remains largely undefined. When MailOnline tested the app, changes appeared to be subject to review by other users.* * * *It was not clear how many users were needed to approve or deny a change before it was published, but Google promises that changes will appear ‘within minutes’. A request for more detail on the vetting process has not yet been answered. * * * *Already up and running* * * *Map Maker is already running in 183 countries around the world. Despite concerns, it is being hailed as a cartographical revolution, allowing some of the world’s remotest places to be mapped in a medium available to the masses for the very first time. * * * *It also allows for a level of detail — for example, of college campuses — that simply would not be available on conventional maps. “Map Maker users have mapped entire cities, road networks and universities that were never previously recorded online,” the blog post bragged.* * * *“These contributions have been incorporated into Google Maps and Google Earth, so the collective expertise of the Map Maker community benefits the millions of people using these products globally.”* *Those who have Google Earth can also watch mapping in real time by others around the world using the application. * Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : Pune Mirror : Will Google Maps lead people astray, the Wikipedia way?
Heya, Is Wikipedia to blame for being open? Is Google to blame for Android being open? Think about it that way. --Regards, On 24 April 2011 19:04, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Interestingly a slightly negative story on Wikipedia in India after a long time. There's some pretty impressive mistakes and assertions in this article (copied below), in particular: * Many of us have also been tricked by faulty or falsified information on Wikipedia, which is edited by users who are often tempted into leading others astray. * Originally, Wikipedia allowed anyone to update its entries ... In 2009, it was forced to recruit 20,000 editors to stop falsification of entries. *Pune Mirror : Will Google Maps lead people astray, the Wikipedia way?* http://www.punemirror.in/article/26/20110423201104240122415581039affe/Will-Google-Maps-lead-people-astray-the-Wikipedia-way.html *With the launch of the new Map Maker application in the US, Google Maps can be edited by anybody, putting a question mark on the reliability of its content* * * *New York: Almost all of us have been tricked by a faulty GPS into taking a wrong turn, driving down a dead end road, in extreme cases even driving into rivers or to the edge of cliffs. Many of us have also been tricked by faulty or falsified information on Wikipedia, which is edited by users who are often tempted into leading others astray. * * * *Now, Google is set to combine both dangers into one with the launch of Map Maker in the US, reports Daily Mail. Map Maker is a web-based application that allows users to edit Google Maps using their own local knowledge of an area. It takes advantage of crowd-sourcing to map the parts * *of the world that even Google can’t get to. * * * *Crowd outsourcing* * * *“You know your neighbourhood or hometown best,” Google Map Maker tech lead Lalitesh Katragadda and product manager Manik Gupta said in a blog post. “With Google Map Maker, you can ensure the places you care about are richly represented on the map. For example, you can fix the name of your local pizza parlour, or add a description of your favourite book store.” * * * *Users are also encouraged to add bike lanes, walking paths, secret shortcuts, parking lots, and any other details they can think of using Map Maker. * * * * * *The suggestions are set to be reviewed before being published. “After approval, the edits will appear in Google Maps within minutes — dramatically speeding up the time it takes for online maps to reflect the often-changing physical world,” the blog post read.* * * *Wikipedia controversies* * * *Originally, Wikipedia allowed anyone to update its entries. But a series of malicious incidents — including changes to George W Bush’s page that saw it having to be corrected an incredible 40,000 times, and an entry giving former British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s middle name as ‘Whoop de doo’ — soon forced the site to rethink its policy.In 2009, it was forced to recruit 20,000 editors to stop falsification of entries. * * * *Review of changes* * * *Map Maker, perhaps learning from that lesson, is set to review changes before they are published. How exactly the changes will be reviewed, however, remains largely undefined. When MailOnline tested the app, changes appeared to be subject to review by other users.* * * *It was not clear how many users were needed to approve or deny a change before it was published, but Google promises that changes will appear ‘within minutes’. A request for more detail on the vetting process has not yet been answered. * * * *Already up and running* * * *Map Maker is already running in 183 countries around the world. Despite concerns, it is being hailed as a cartographical revolution, allowing some of the world’s remotest places to be mapped in a medium available to the masses for the very first time. * * * *It also allows for a level of detail — for example, of college campuses — that simply would not be available on conventional maps. “Map Maker users have mapped entire cities, road networks and universities that were never previously recorded online,” the blog post bragged.* * * *“These contributions have been incorporated into Google Maps and Google Earth, so the collective expertise of the Map Maker community benefits the millions of people using these products globally.”* *Those who have Google Earth can also watch mapping in real time by others around the world using the application. * Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : Pune Mirror : Will Google Maps lead people astray, the Wikipedia way?
At bottom :- On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 19:11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, Is Wikipedia to blame for being open? Is Google to blame for Android being open? Think about it that way. --Regards, Btw Android is not really open. Please see http://lwn.net/Articles/435342/ . Its a 'business decision' . They did get quite a bit slammed on it on slashdot and others when Honeycomb code drop was taken aback for 'when its ready' . Just my 2 paise. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
