Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-24 Thread Shiju Alex

 Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju)
 perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article
 quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a
 conversation with Erik about this.


This report is a subset of the report that is already available at
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/Sitemap.htm

But it is real pain to filter and take the information of only those
languages that we want (in our case, it is Indian language wikis). In fact I
was preparing my monthly report like that only (using the above link) for
the past 3 years.

When I went to Gdansk to attend Wikimania 2010, I met Erik Zachte and we
discussed various topics related to his wonderful site and statistical
reports. During discussion, I mentioned the about the above issue with him.

This special report for Indian languages came out as a result of that
conversation with Erik. He published a post regarding this at
http://infodisiac.com/blog/2010/11/wikipedia-reports-filtered-by-region/



I am happy that he remembered my request and implemented it.

Article quality, page views, edits per article, number of active users, and
so on are part of this new report also.
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/Sitemap.htm

Shiju








On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is invaluable - thank you Erik, and thanks Gerard for bringing it to
 attention.

 Erik, I know that you report geographic trends on EN on the main stats
 page, is there any way you can easily and comprehensibly integrate India
 edits and readership to EN on the India page? That would be very helpful,
 esp. as it probably dominates all other Indian languages currently (and
 since English is an official Indian language too).

 Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju)
 perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article
 quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a
 conversation with Erik about this.

 Good wishes,
 Achal

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
Including English on the page for India only makes sense when the traffic is
the traffic generated for the English Wikipedia in India. When the other
languages have to compete with the world wide audience, the information is
not really relevant.
Thanks,
GerardM

On 24 November 2010 08:21, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is invaluable - thank you Erik, and thanks Gerard for bringing it to
 attention.

 Erik, I know that you report geographic trends on EN on the main stats
 page, is there any way you can easily and comprehensibly integrate India
 edits and readership to EN on the India page? That would be very helpful,
 esp. as it probably dominates all other Indian languages currently (and
 since English is an official Indian language too).

 Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju)
 perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article
 quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a
 conversation with Erik about this.

 Good wishes,
 Achal

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[Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-24 Thread Achal Prabhala
Yes Gerard, I assumed it was obvious that we're talking about India-based
traffic and edits to EN - the information is reported on the main stats
page, my point was simply that it would be interesting to see in the same
table (though we're measuring slightly different things, since the Indian
language Wikipedia stats are not based on geographical origin but
destination).
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-24 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
While at it, should the title be changed to something more accurate?
Since the list includes Nepali (also the official language of Nepal), Bangla 
(the national language of Bangladesh, a bulk of edits come from there), Tamil 
(an official language of Sri Lanka, also a source of a significant number of 
edits), and Sinhala (one of the official languages of Sri Lanka and not spoken 
in India to my knowledge), shall we expand the list to include the remaining 
South Asian languages under the title Wikipedia Statistics - South Asia?

- Sundar

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 8:03:23 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

Yes Gerard, I assumed it was obvious that we're talking about India-based 
traffic and edits to EN - the information is reported on the main stats page, 
my 
point was simply that it would be interesting to see in the same table (though 
we're measuring slightly different things, since the Indian language Wikipedia 
stats are not based on geographical origin but destination).
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[Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I just learned that Erik has created a special version of the traffic
statistics for India.
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm

When I look at the numbers, I do not understand why Malayalam is doing so
poorly. It is not that it has a limited number of viewers, it is that it has
gone down so much. This is also true for other Wikipedias. What is happening
and, more importantly what can be done about it ???
Thanks,
   Gerard
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-23 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hoi,
 I just learned that Erik has created a special version of the traffic
 statistics for India.
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm


This is great stuff, Gerard!  Many thanks to Erik Zachte on the behalf
of the Indian community. :)

Hopefully, the under-reported pageviews issue will be resolved soon!
Thanks for posting.

anirudh


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[Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)

2010-11-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
This is invaluable - thank you Erik, and thanks Gerard for bringing it to
attention.

Erik, I know that you report geographic trends on EN on the main stats page,
is there any way you can easily and comprehensibly integrate India edits and
readership to EN on the India page? That would be very helpful, esp. as it
probably dominates all other Indian languages currently (and since English
is an official Indian language too).

Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju)
perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article
quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a
conversation with Erik about this.

Good wishes,
Achal
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