[Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption

2013-10-20 Thread Anirudh Bhati
Mashable:  Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of
Corruption

http://mashable.com/2013/10/17/wikipedia-donation-corruption/

When Wikipedia decided to roll out an aggressive fundraising effort a
few years ago, the free encyclopedia came with a remarkably effective
battle plan. For the entirety of the campaign, co-founder Jimmy Wales
stared visitors down from the top of every page, making you feel guilty
every time you viewed an article without paying a dime.

It worked. From 2011 to 2012, Wikipedia's fundraising arm, the Wikimedia
Foundation, pulled in $38.4 million. It was a major increase from the $5
million raised from 2007 to 2008, one that occurred even as editorial
involvement with Wikipedia was on the decline.

But where does all this money go?

In an unusually candid statement last month, outgoing Wikimedia
Foundation Chair Sue Gardner criticized the way her organization has
doled out funds. Too much is being spent on groups that do too little to
enhance the value of the encyclopedia itself, she argued. What's worse,
many of those being awarded grants are the same people responsible for
giving them out, which Gardner warned could lead to log-rolling,
self-dealing and other corrupt practices.

Though not in charge of Wikipedia's content, the Wikimedia Foundation,
or WMF, is the most powerful promoter of the open-source encyclopedia.
It manages the technical infrastructure and day-to-day business
operations of Wikipedia --- one of the most-visited sites in the world.

WMF is based in San Francisco, but more than 40 independent-chapter
Wikimedia organizations exist around the world, ostensibly advancing the
foundation's agenda in their native regions. These chapters are the
biggest recipients of Wikimedia grant funding. But according to Gardner,
it's not clear how filling the coffers of the chapter organizations
benefits the site as a whole.

Last year, the Funds Dissemination Committee gave out $5.65 million in
grants, the lion's share of which --- 89% --- went to affiliate
chapters. And 12 chapters in particular received 83% of the total grants.

I believe that currently, too large a proportion of the movement's
money is being spent by the chapters, Gardner, who has largely been
responsible for the foundation's transition into a fundraising behemoth,
wrote in response to the FDC's latest report.

The value in the Wikimedia projects is primarily created by individual
editors: individuals create the value for readers, which results in
those readers donating money to the movement.

In an email to the Daily Dot, Gardner noted that these opinions were
not new, nor are they unique to her.

Indeed, Gardner's statement echoed the criticism of a number of
prominent Wikipedia editors and critics in recent years. The concern is
that all this funding has done less to help the site than it has to
create a professional bureaucratic class surrounding the Wikipedia
project, as the Register's Andrew Orlowski put it. Orlowski points out
that the foundation's staff grew from three full-timers in 2006 to 174
in 2012-13.

Gardner herself notes that there are very few members on the FDC who
aren't also chapter members. In fact, the majority of the committee's
members are either former or current chapter board members.

The coziness that exists between the FDC and chapter board members calls
up memories of past chapter improprieties. In 2012, a former chapter
board member was accused of using his position within the organization
to promote Gibraltar on the site. At the same time, he served on the
Gibraltar government payroll as a PR consultant.

Though Gardner believes the FDC is uniquely transparent and that its
members are capable of acting without self-interest, others aren't quite
so convinced.

One critic, Gregory Kohs, co-founder of the muckraking site
Wikipediocracy, describes the foundation's appetite for expansion as
empire building. He argues that the work of a nearly 200-member
Wikimedia staff could easily be done by a workforce a fraction of the size.

But it's not just the longtime critics. Many everyday Wikipedians are
concerned about whether WMF still exists to serve Wikipedia, or vice versa.

Conflicts of interest are a major area of concern throughout Wikipedia
culture, and editors like Tango say they are unavoidable with so much
money involved.

'Assume Good Faith' is a great policy when writing an collaborative
encyclopaedia, Tango writes, referring to a fundamental principle on
Wikipedia whereby editors are encouraged to assume all contributions to
the encyclopedia are done with good intent. It's not so simple when you
are dealing with [$11 million].

But others are less concerned about corruption and more worried about
how chapters actually spend all that money. Andreas Kolbe, an active
Wikipedian and Wikipediocracy moderator, says many of the chapters have
a propensity for spending on projects intended to bring publicity rather
than genuinely enhancing the site.

I see little 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption

2013-10-20 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Keeping this post in mind, the idea of Rs 110 Lakh budget for the
Chapter really raises a lot of disquiet in my mind.

Frankly, imho budget growth should be organic, not catastrophic. The
items proposed for expenditure should be discussed amongst the
community and explicit support got for this. Plus last year's budget
details  what they were planned for  how  many objectives were met
needs to be clear to the public.

Ashwin

On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mashable:  Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of
 Corruption

 http://mashable.com/2013/10/17/wikipedia-donation-corruption/

 When Wikipedia decided to roll out an aggressive fundraising effort a few
 years ago, the free encyclopedia came with a remarkably effective battle
 plan. For the entirety of the campaign, co-founder Jimmy Wales stared
 visitors down from the top of every page, making you feel guilty every time
 you viewed an article without paying a dime.

 It worked. From 2011 to 2012, Wikipedia's fundraising arm, the Wikimedia
 Foundation, pulled in $38.4 million. It was a major increase from the $5
 million raised from 2007 to 2008, one that occurred even as editorial
 involvement with Wikipedia was on the decline.

 But where does all this money go?

 In an unusually candid statement last month, outgoing Wikimedia Foundation
 Chair Sue Gardner criticized the way her organization has doled out funds.
 Too much is being spent on groups that do too little to enhance the value of
 the encyclopedia itself, she argued. What's worse, many of those being
 awarded grants are the same people responsible for giving them out, which
 Gardner warned could lead to log-rolling, self-dealing and other corrupt
 practices.

 Though not in charge of Wikipedia's content, the Wikimedia Foundation, or
 WMF, is the most powerful promoter of the open-source encyclopedia. It
 manages the technical infrastructure and day-to-day business operations of
 Wikipedia — one of the most-visited sites in the world.

 WMF is based in San Francisco, but more than 40 independent-chapter
 Wikimedia organizations exist around the world, ostensibly advancing the
 foundation's agenda in their native regions. These chapters are the biggest
 recipients of Wikimedia grant funding. But according to Gardner, it's not
 clear how filling the coffers of the chapter organizations benefits the site
 as a whole.

 Last year, the Funds Dissemination Committee gave out $5.65 million in
 grants, the lion's share of which — 89% — went to affiliate chapters. And 12
 chapters in particular received 83% of the total grants.

 I believe that currently, too large a proportion of the movement's money is
 being spent by the chapters, Gardner, who has largely been responsible for
 the foundation's transition into a fundraising behemoth, wrote in response
 to the FDC's latest report.

 The value in the Wikimedia projects is primarily created by individual
 editors: individuals create the value for readers, which results in those
 readers donating money to the movement.

 In an email to the Daily Dot, Gardner noted that these opinions were not
 new, nor are they unique to her.

 Indeed, Gardner's statement echoed the criticism of a number of prominent
 Wikipedia editors and critics in recent years. The concern is that all this
 funding has done less to help the site than it has to create a professional
 bureaucratic class” surrounding the Wikipedia project,” as the Register’s
 Andrew Orlowski put it. Orlowski points out that the foundation’s staff grew
 from three full-timers in 2006 to 174 in 2012-13.

 Gardner herself notes that there are very few members on the FDC who aren't
 also chapter members. In fact, the majority of the committee's members are
 either former or current chapter board members.

 The coziness that exists between the FDC and chapter board members calls up
 memories of past chapter improprieties. In 2012, a former chapter board
 member was accused of using his position within the organization to promote
 Gibraltar on the site. At the same time, he served on the Gibraltar
 government payroll as a PR consultant.

 Though Gardner believes the FDC is uniquely transparent and that its members
 are capable of acting without self-interest, others aren't quite so
 convinced.

 One critic, Gregory Kohs, co-founder of the muckraking site Wikipediocracy,
 describes the foundation’s appetite for expansion as “empire building.” He
 argues that the work of a nearly 200-member Wikimedia staff could easily be
 done by a workforce a fraction of the size.

 But it's not just the longtime critics. Many everyday Wikipedians are
 concerned about whether WMF still exists to serve Wikipedia, or vice versa.

 Conflicts of interest are a major area of concern throughout Wikipedia
 culture, and editors like Tango say they are unavoidable with so much money
 involved.

 'Assume Good Faith' is a great policy when writing an collaborative
 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption

2013-10-20 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Hi,br/br/IIRC a call was put out on the list for discussion on the budget 
by the Chapter EC. br/br/I however agree that something like an exit budget 
to see how programmes funded have worked out and the impact they had on 
Wikipedia would be a helpful exercise to help the Chapter in future fundraising 
and budget exercises.br/br/Pradeepa 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption

2013-10-20 Thread Gautam John
The functional assumption being that what the WMF/WMIN are solving are
technical challenges for which outcomes are immediately apparent. I believe
that what they are both doing is engaging with an eco-system and that is an
adaptive challenge for which outcomes are not always know immediately.
There is much complexity in the model and solutions emerge - not
necessarily are known at the outset.


Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://www.akshara.org.in/


On 20 October 2013 22:40, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 IIRC a call was put out on the list for discussion on the budget by the
 Chapter EC.

 I however agree that something like an exit budget to see how programmes
 funded have worked out and the impact they had on Wikipedia would be a
 helpful exercise to help the Chapter in future fundraising and budget
 exercises.

 Pradeep

 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS

  --
 * From: * Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com;
 * To: * Wikimedia India Community list 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
 * Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia
 Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption
 * Sent: * Sun, Oct 20, 2013 12:36:16 PM

   Keeping this post in mind, the idea of Rs 110 Lakh budget for the
 Chapter really raises a lot of disquiet in my mind.

 Frankly, imho budget growth should be organic, not catastrophic. The
 items proposed for expenditure should be discussed amongst the
 community and explicit support got for this. Plus last year's budget
 details  what they were planned for  how  many objectives were met
 needs to be clear to the public.

 Ashwin

 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Mashable:  Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of
  Corruption
 
  http://mashable.com/2013/10/17/wikipedia-donation-corruption/
 
  When Wikipedia decided to roll out an aggressive fundraising effort a few
  years ago, the free encyclopedia came with a remarkably effective battle
  plan. For the entirety of the campaign, co-founder Jimmy Wales stared
  visitors down from the top of every page, making you feel guilty every
 time
  you viewed an article without paying a dime.
 
  It worked. From 2011 to 2012, Wikipedia's fundraising arm, the Wikimedia
  Foundation, pulled in $38.4 million. It was a major increase from the $5
  million raised from 2007 to 2008, one that occurred even as editorial
  involvement with Wikipedia was on the decline.
 
  But where does all this money go?
 
  In an unusually candid statement last month, outgoing Wikimedia
 Foundation
  Chair Sue Gardner criticized the way her organization has doled out
 funds.
  Too much is being spent on groups that do too little to enhance the
 value of
  the encyclopedia itself, she argued. What's worse, many of those being
  awarded grants are the same people responsible for giving them out, which
  Gardner warned could lead to log-rolling, self-dealing and other corrupt
  practices.
 
  Though not in charge of Wikipedia's content, the Wikimedia Foundation, or
  WMF, is the most powerful promoter of the open-source encyclopedia. It
  manages the technical infrastructure and day-to-day business operations
 of
  Wikipedia — one of the most-visited sites in the world.
 
  WMF is based in San Francisco, but more than 40 independent-chapter
  Wikimedia organizations exist around the world, ostensibly advancing the
  foundation's agenda in their native regions. These chapters are the
 biggest
  recipients of Wikimedia grant funding. But according to Gardner, it's not
  clear how filling the coffers of the chapter organizations benefits the
 site
  as a whole.
 
  Last year, the Funds Dissemination Committee gave out $5.65 million in
  grants, the lion's share of which — 89% — went to affiliate chapters.
 And 12
  chapters in particular received 83% of the total grants.
 
  I believe that currently, too large a proportion of the movement's
 money is
  being spent by the chapters, Gardner, who has largely been responsible
 for
  the foundation's transition into a fundraising behemoth, wrote in
 response
  to the FDC's latest report.
 
  The value in the Wikimedia projects is primarily created by individual
  editors: individuals create the value for readers, which results in those
  readers donating money to the movement.
 
  In an email to the Daily Dot, Gardner noted that these opinions were not
  new, nor are they unique to her.
 
  Indeed, Gardner's statement echoed the criticism of a number of prominent
  Wikipedia editors and critics in recent years. The concern is that all
 this
  funding has done less to help the site than it has to create a
 professional
  bureaucratic class” surrounding the Wikipedia project,” as the Register’s
  Andrew Orlowski put it. Orlowski points out that the foundation’s staff
 grew
  from three full-timers in 2006 to 174 in 2012-13.
 
  Gardner herself

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption

2013-10-20 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Gautam, all the more reason to move forth steadily - one step on the ground.


On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Gautam John gau...@akshara.org.in wrote:

 The functional assumption being that what the WMF/WMIN are solving are
 technical challenges for which outcomes are immediately apparent. I believe
 that what they are both doing is engaging with an eco-system and that is an
 adaptive challenge for which outcomes are not always know immediately.
 There is much complexity in the model and solutions emerge - not
 necessarily are known at the outset.


 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://www.akshara.org.in/


 On 20 October 2013 22:40, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 IIRC a call was put out on the list for discussion on the budget by the
 Chapter EC.

 I however agree that something like an exit budget to see how programmes
 funded have worked out and the impact they had on Wikipedia would be a
 helpful exercise to help the Chapter in future fundraising and budget
 exercises.

 Pradeep

 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS

  --
 * From: * Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com;
 * To: * Wikimedia India Community list 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
 * Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia
 Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption
 * Sent: * Sun, Oct 20, 2013 12:36:16 PM

   Keeping this post in mind, the idea of Rs 110 Lakh budget for the
 Chapter really raises a lot of disquiet in my mind.

 Frankly, imho budget growth should be organic, not catastrophic. The
 items proposed for expenditure should be discussed amongst the
 community and explicit support got for this. Plus last year's budget
 details  what they were planned for  how  many objectives were met
 needs to be clear to the public.

 Ashwin

 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Mashable:  Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of
  Corruption
 
  http://mashable.com/2013/10/17/wikipedia-donation-corruption/
 
  When Wikipedia decided to roll out an aggressive fundraising effort a
 few
  years ago, the free encyclopedia came with a remarkably effective battle
  plan. For the entirety of the campaign, co-founder Jimmy Wales stared
  visitors down from the top of every page, making you feel guilty every
 time
  you viewed an article without paying a dime.
 
  It worked. From 2011 to 2012, Wikipedia's fundraising arm, the Wikimedia
  Foundation, pulled in $38.4 million. It was a major increase from the $5
  million raised from 2007 to 2008, one that occurred even as editorial
  involvement with Wikipedia was on the decline.
 
  But where does all this money go?
 
  In an unusually candid statement last month, outgoing Wikimedia
 Foundation
  Chair Sue Gardner criticized the way her organization has doled out
 funds.
  Too much is being spent on groups that do too little to enhance the
 value of
  the encyclopedia itself, she argued. What's worse, many of those being
  awarded grants are the same people responsible for giving them out,
 which
  Gardner warned could lead to log-rolling, self-dealing and other
 corrupt
  practices.
 
  Though not in charge of Wikipedia's content, the Wikimedia Foundation,
 or
  WMF, is the most powerful promoter of the open-source encyclopedia. It
  manages the technical infrastructure and day-to-day business operations
 of
  Wikipedia — one of the most-visited sites in the world.
 
  WMF is based in San Francisco, but more than 40 independent-chapter
  Wikimedia organizations exist around the world, ostensibly advancing the
  foundation's agenda in their native regions. These chapters are the
 biggest
  recipients of Wikimedia grant funding. But according to Gardner, it's
 not
  clear how filling the coffers of the chapter organizations benefits the
 site
  as a whole.
 
  Last year, the Funds Dissemination Committee gave out $5.65 million in
  grants, the lion's share of which — 89% — went to affiliate chapters.
 And 12
  chapters in particular received 83% of the total grants.
 
  I believe that currently, too large a proportion of the movement's
 money is
  being spent by the chapters, Gardner, who has largely been responsible
 for
  the foundation's transition into a fundraising behemoth, wrote in
 response
  to the FDC's latest report.
 
  The value in the Wikimedia projects is primarily created by individual
  editors: individuals create the value for readers, which results in
 those
  readers donating money to the movement.
 
  In an email to the Daily Dot, Gardner noted that these opinions were
 not
  new, nor are they unique to her.
 
  Indeed, Gardner's statement echoed the criticism of a number of
 prominent
  Wikipedia editors and critics in recent years. The concern is that all
 this
  funding has done less to help the site than it has to create a
 professional
  bureaucratic class” surrounding the Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption

2013-10-20 Thread Gautam John
My take is that they should measure what impact each intervention has on
it's own. Not necessarily against the goal of increasing editorship because
that is a complex problem that will not be solved in a single step or year.
Trying different things is not a bad idea so long as it is done with
rigorous measurement.


Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://www.akshara.org.in/


On 20 October 2013 22:46, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gautam, all the more reason to move forth steadily - one step on the
 ground.


 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Gautam John gau...@akshara.org.inwrote:

 The functional assumption being that what the WMF/WMIN are solving are
 technical challenges for which outcomes are immediately apparent. I believe
 that what they are both doing is engaging with an eco-system and that is an
 adaptive challenge for which outcomes are not always know immediately.
 There is much complexity in the model and solutions emerge - not
 necessarily are known at the outset.


 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://www.akshara.org.in/


 On 20 October 2013 22:40, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 IIRC a call was put out on the list for discussion on the budget by the
 Chapter EC.

 I however agree that something like an exit budget to see how programmes
 funded have worked out and the impact they had on Wikipedia would be a
 helpful exercise to help the Chapter in future fundraising and budget
 exercises.

 Pradeep

 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhonehttp://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS

  --
 * From: * Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com;
 * To: * Wikimedia India Community list 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
 * Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia
 Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption
 * Sent: * Sun, Oct 20, 2013 12:36:16 PM

   Keeping this post in mind, the idea of Rs 110 Lakh budget for the
 Chapter really raises a lot of disquiet in my mind.

 Frankly, imho budget growth should be organic, not catastrophic. The
 items proposed for expenditure should be discussed amongst the
 community and explicit support got for this. Plus last year's budget
 details  what they were planned for  how  many objectives were met
 needs to be clear to the public.

 Ashwin

 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Mashable:  Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of
  Corruption
 
  http://mashable.com/2013/10/17/wikipedia-donation-corruption/
 
  When Wikipedia decided to roll out an aggressive fundraising effort a
 few
  years ago, the free encyclopedia came with a remarkably effective
 battle
  plan. For the entirety of the campaign, co-founder Jimmy Wales stared
  visitors down from the top of every page, making you feel guilty every
 time
  you viewed an article without paying a dime.
 
  It worked. From 2011 to 2012, Wikipedia's fundraising arm, the
 Wikimedia
  Foundation, pulled in $38.4 million. It was a major increase from the
 $5
  million raised from 2007 to 2008, one that occurred even as editorial
  involvement with Wikipedia was on the decline.
 
  But where does all this money go?
 
  In an unusually candid statement last month, outgoing Wikimedia
 Foundation
  Chair Sue Gardner criticized the way her organization has doled out
 funds.
  Too much is being spent on groups that do too little to enhance the
 value of
  the encyclopedia itself, she argued. What's worse, many of those being
  awarded grants are the same people responsible for giving them out,
 which
  Gardner warned could lead to log-rolling, self-dealing and other
 corrupt
  practices.
 
  Though not in charge of Wikipedia's content, the Wikimedia Foundation,
 or
  WMF, is the most powerful promoter of the open-source encyclopedia. It
  manages the technical infrastructure and day-to-day business
 operations of
  Wikipedia — one of the most-visited sites in the world.
 
  WMF is based in San Francisco, but more than 40 independent-chapter
  Wikimedia organizations exist around the world, ostensibly advancing
 the
  foundation's agenda in their native regions. These chapters are the
 biggest
  recipients of Wikimedia grant funding. But according to Gardner, it's
 not
  clear how filling the coffers of the chapter organizations benefits
 the site
  as a whole.
 
  Last year, the Funds Dissemination Committee gave out $5.65 million in
  grants, the lion's share of which — 89% — went to affiliate chapters.
 And 12
  chapters in particular received 83% of the total grants.
 
  I believe that currently, too large a proportion of the movement's
 money is
  being spent by the chapters, Gardner, who has largely been
 responsible for
  the foundation's transition into a fundraising behemoth, wrote in
 response
  to the FDC's latest report.
 
  The value in the Wikimedia projects is primarily created by individual
  editors: individuals create the value for readers, which

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption

2013-10-20 Thread Ashwin Baindur
SMARTER, eh?


On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Gautam John gau...@akshara.org.in wrote:

 My take is that they should measure what impact each intervention has on
 it's own. Not necessarily against the goal of increasing editorship because
 that is a complex problem that will not be solved in a single step or year.
 Trying different things is not a bad idea so long as it is done with
 rigorous measurement.


 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://www.akshara.org.in/


 On 20 October 2013 22:46, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gautam, all the more reason to move forth steadily - one step on the
 ground.


 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Gautam John gau...@akshara.org.inwrote:

 The functional assumption being that what the WMF/WMIN are solving are
 technical challenges for which outcomes are immediately apparent. I believe
 that what they are both doing is engaging with an eco-system and that is an
 adaptive challenge for which outcomes are not always know immediately.
 There is much complexity in the model and solutions emerge - not
 necessarily are known at the outset.


 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://www.akshara.org.in/


 On 20 October 2013 22:40, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 IIRC a call was put out on the list for discussion on the budget by the
 Chapter EC.

 I however agree that something like an exit budget to see how
 programmes funded have worked out and the impact they had on Wikipedia
 would be a helpful exercise to help the Chapter in future fundraising and
 budget exercises.

 Pradeep

 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhonehttp://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS

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 * From: * Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com;
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 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
 * Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mashable: Where Do Wikipedia
 Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of Corruption
 * Sent: * Sun, Oct 20, 2013 12:36:16 PM

   Keeping this post in mind, the idea of Rs 110 Lakh budget for the
 Chapter really raises a lot of disquiet in my mind.

 Frankly, imho budget growth should be organic, not catastrophic. The
 items proposed for expenditure should be discussed amongst the
 community and explicit support got for this. Plus last year's budget
 details  what they were planned for  how  many objectives were met
 needs to be clear to the public.

 Ashwin

 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Mashable:  Where Do Wikipedia Donations Go? Outgoing Chief Warns of
  Corruption
 
  http://mashable.com/2013/10/17/wikipedia-donation-corruption/
 
  When Wikipedia decided to roll out an aggressive fundraising effort a
 few
  years ago, the free encyclopedia came with a remarkably effective
 battle
  plan. For the entirety of the campaign, co-founder Jimmy Wales stared
  visitors down from the top of every page, making you feel guilty
 every time
  you viewed an article without paying a dime.
 
  It worked. From 2011 to 2012, Wikipedia's fundraising arm, the
 Wikimedia
  Foundation, pulled in $38.4 million. It was a major increase from the
 $5
  million raised from 2007 to 2008, one that occurred even as editorial
  involvement with Wikipedia was on the decline.
 
  But where does all this money go?
 
  In an unusually candid statement last month, outgoing Wikimedia
 Foundation
  Chair Sue Gardner criticized the way her organization has doled out
 funds.
  Too much is being spent on groups that do too little to enhance the
 value of
  the encyclopedia itself, she argued. What's worse, many of those being
  awarded grants are the same people responsible for giving them out,
 which
  Gardner warned could lead to log-rolling, self-dealing and other
 corrupt
  practices.
 
  Though not in charge of Wikipedia's content, the Wikimedia
 Foundation, or
  WMF, is the most powerful promoter of the open-source encyclopedia. It
  manages the technical infrastructure and day-to-day business
 operations of
  Wikipedia — one of the most-visited sites in the world.
 
  WMF is based in San Francisco, but more than 40 independent-chapter
  Wikimedia organizations exist around the world, ostensibly advancing
 the
  foundation's agenda in their native regions. These chapters are the
 biggest
  recipients of Wikimedia grant funding. But according to Gardner, it's
 not
  clear how filling the coffers of the chapter organizations benefits
 the site
  as a whole.
 
  Last year, the Funds Dissemination Committee gave out $5.65 million in
  grants, the lion's share of which — 89% — went to affiliate chapters.
 And 12
  chapters in particular received 83% of the total grants.
 
  I believe that currently, too large a proportion of the movement's
 money is
  being spent by the chapters, Gardner, who has largely been
 responsible for
  the foundation's transition into a fundraising behemoth, wrote in
 response
  to the FDC's latest report.
 
  The value in the Wikimedia