Hoi Gerard,
The disucssion in the mail thread is about cost / benefit comparison of two
similar outreach events
1.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Wiki-Data_India_Marathon
and
2.
Hoi,
Ravi, I am not a professional. I am a volunteer.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 2 May 2014 09:47, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi Gerard,
The disucssion in the mail thread is about cost / benefit comparison of
two similar outreach events
1.
Gerard,
I am aware that you have been largely a volunteer except for a brieft part
time stint with WMF some time before.
And, I have already appreciated your work in WikiData and TranslateWiki as
a volunteer.
Ravi
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Aren't we all volunteers here?
Atleast the ones not getting paid?
On 2 May 2014 14:15, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
Ravi, I am not a professional. I am a volunteer.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 2 May 2014 09:47, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi Gerard,
Hi Gerard,
The discussion, if I am not mistaking, is on paid staffs from India
involved with indic wiki, while you're replying with your experience of
Netherland and also admit that you have no Idea of it in Indian context. Do
you think that your reply here does help readers in getting the issue
Hi Vishnu,
Thanks for identifying the resource person and providing the rationale for
inviting him.
Hoi Gerard,
When I was discussing about a fundamental issue of WMF intervention in
India spoiling community dynamics, you came out of nowhere and questioned
my bias.
Then you went on giving
Dear Ravi,
On Wednesday 30 April 2014 01:12 PM, Ravishankar wrote:
But, when an unusually high amount is spent on a resource person
through CIS-A2K, I can't help point out the double standards followed
for similar programs planned by WMIN.
Please check
Vishnu,
Volunteers come and volunteers go. That is the nature of the movement.
Do you propose to build a better Wikipedia with paid staff?
Please try.
Ravi
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Ravi,
When I observe the activities of the Dutch chapter I find that they take up
things that volunteers are not able to. They are things that are often
complex and take a large network. What the Dutch chapter does for GLAM is
much more than reaching out to individual GLAM institutions. It takes
Hi Gerard,
/ It takes a full time effort of very dedicated people.
I understand two points from this: 1. Either you say that the volunteer
community here is not dedicated?? 2. Or either the paid community is not
dedicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm, that's because you are going
Hoi,
I am saying neither. When I describe the efforts by the paid staff of the
Dutch chapter, I find that they are really dedicated and deal with complex
issues where many people and organisations are involved. It takes a deep
understanding and availability in time and is very much supportive of
Volunteers are equally dedicated, if not more, than paid employees.
I've known people who have traveled long distances at their own expense to
hold workshopa and other events.
Rarely have I seen a paid employee work with the same efficiency.
On May 1, 2014 1:40 AM, Gerard Meijssen
Dear Ravi,
Please see no. 9 on Meta here [1] where we discussed the potential
benefits of Wikidata for Indic projects. In addition to this, I would
like to give a broader context and background for this program, which
will also help answer some of your concerns.
As the community well knows
Hoi Gerard, Vishnu
Who is the resource person for this Wiki Data Marathon program?
Let me continue discussing after I get answer for this simple and straight
forward question.
Ravi
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Hoi Gerard,
( Context for others:
Please see
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Wiki-Data_India_Marathon
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Hoi,
The point I made and the point that I make again. You did not ask, you do
not know and you consider your opinion to be of paramount importance. In
stead of asking you go from a fixed point of view that are limited and
denounce a plan because everything has to be done elsewhere first to be
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