Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Ravishankar]

Anasuya,

Thanks for clarifying.

Since both CIS-A2K and WMIN are in a transition period, I was just curious
to know the future course of action as a community member. Nothing fishy :)
to demand exhaustive reports and I will wait till the year end to see the
reflections report from WMF.

Meanwhile, I will wait to hear from CIS-A2K and WMIN on whatever they want
to share with the community.

Thanks,

Ravi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Anasuya Sengupta]

Hi Ravi,

Thanks for asking this question. As I said when we had our IRC
conversation, our understanding with all those we have visited during this
past year has been that we will not do official site reports at this time
beyond a financial review for the Audit Committee, instead creating shared
notes with each organisation that serve as a framework for current and
future work together. We have visited nine organisations (not all of them
full fledged site visits) so far, and believe that this process has helped
us build a much stronger rapport and shared understanding of strategy and
impact.

To elaborate on the reasons for doing it this way: for Garfield and me (as
well as other staff and FDC who have accompanied us) the site visit process
is about understanding each organisation's context, leadership, financial
and other systems, effectiveness, program design, execution and so on. But
at the core of it, it's about building trust, and creating a much more
supportive atmosphere in which we can ask tough questions of each other
(yes, we certainly get our share about WMF), at the same time as build a
solid and constructive working relationship together. I know you will
appreciate that in order to do this, we need a level of transparency and
openness between the organisation and the visiting team - so from the start
of the visit, we build our notes together. The organisation is then welcome
to share any portion of these collaboratively created notes with whomever
they'd like to, including community. In turn, our notes are shared
with the FDC,
with a financial report going to the Audit Committee.

To be clear, this past year was new, and an exploration for all of us in
the process: each organisation, WMF staff, the FDC and the community
members we interacted with in the process. During such an evolving process,
it felt unhelpful to create 'official' reports that could undermine the
trust and openness we were seeking to build. In addition, what we did not
want to happen is for issues and conversations to be taken out of context
and for unhelpful and incorrect comparisons to be made between
organisations. It may well be that from next year on, it will feel much
more appropriate and helpful for us to create shared public documentation
with each organisation of our visits, and I'd be happy to do so.

What I think is most useful for all of us right now - and which I intend to
do at the end of this fiscal year - is a 'reflections' document that looks
at the overall trends and learning from all the site visits in a way that
can support movement-wide learning.

I hope this helps,
Anasuya



On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Ravishankar  wrote:

> Any updates on this?
>
> I asked Anushaya about this during IRC with Indic Wiki IRC in Feb 2014 and
> she said I should ask WMIN and CIS-A2K :)
>
>
> //
>
> Hey,
>
> Any reports from Wikimedia India chapter / CIS - A2K regarding the plans
> after WMF grants' team visit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ravi//
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Karthik Nadar]

Thank you Vishnu,

That really helps!


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Vishnu  wrote:

>  Hi Karthik,
>
> I think our mails crossed. We will take lead in sharing a draft with you
> and other in the EC for your inputs, soon.
>
> Best,
> Vishnu
>
>
> On Friday 18 April 2014 12:40 PM, Karthik Nadar wrote:
>
> Hi Ravi,
>
>  Thanks for bringing this up.
>
>  I was wrong in believing that WMF and CIS would actively take part on
> this while making the report, but none of the full time paid people seem to
> be interested. Wikimedia India would take it up, but the report will
> completely one-sided, thus requesting the concerned parties (WMF and CIS)
> to initiate or participate and help us on this.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Ravishankar wrote:
>
>>  Any updates on this?
>>
>> I asked Anushaya about this during IRC with Indic Wiki IRC in Feb 2014
>> and she said I should ask WMIN and CIS-A2K :)
>>
>>
>> //
>>  Hey,
>>
>>  Any reports from Wikimedia India chapter / CIS - A2K regarding the plans
>> after WMF grants' team visit?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  Ravi//
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Vishnu]

Hi Karthik,

I think our mails crossed. We will take lead in sharing a draft with you 
and other in the EC for your inputs, soon.


Best,
Vishnu

On Friday 18 April 2014 12:40 PM, Karthik Nadar wrote:

Hi Ravi,

Thanks for bringing this up.

I was wrong in believing that WMF and CIS would actively take part on 
this while making the report, but none of the full time paid people 
seem to be interested. Wikimedia India would take it up, but the 
report will completely one-sided, thus requesting the concerned 
parties (WMF and CIS) to initiate or participate and help us on this.



On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Ravishankar > wrote:


Any updates on this?

I asked Anushaya about this during IRC with Indic Wiki IRC in Feb
2014 and she said I should ask WMIN and CIS-A2K :)


//
Hey,

Any reports from Wikimedia India chapter / CIS - A2K regarding the
plans after WMF grants' team visit?

Thanks,

Ravi//

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Vishnu]

Dear Ravi,

Thanks for flagging this. You did send an earlier reminder about this, 
but we completely got consumed by the work planning and the FDC proposal 
and could not get to this. Apologies!


Will share the draft soon and will request friends from WMIN EC to 
contribute to it.


Cheers,
Vishnu

On Friday 18 April 2014 10:41 AM, Ravishankar wrote:

Any updates on this?

I asked Anushaya about this during IRC with Indic Wiki IRC in Feb 2014 
and she said I should ask WMIN and CIS-A2K :)



//
Hey,

Any reports from Wikimedia India chapter / CIS - A2K regarding the 
plans after WMF grants' team visit?


Thanks,

Ravi//


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Karthik Nadar]

Hi Ravi,

Thanks for bringing this up.

I was wrong in believing that WMF and CIS would actively take part on this
while making the report, but none of the full time paid people seem to be
interested. Wikimedia India would take it up, but the report will
completely one-sided, thus requesting the concerned parties (WMF and CIS)
to initiate or participate and help us on this.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Ravishankar  wrote:

> Any updates on this?
>
> I asked Anushaya about this during IRC with Indic Wiki IRC in Feb 2014 and
> she said I should ask WMIN and CIS-A2K :)
>
>
> //
> Hey,
>
> Any reports from Wikimedia India chapter / CIS - A2K regarding the plans
> after WMF grants' team visit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ravi//
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Ravishankar]

Any updates on this?

I asked Anushaya about this during IRC with Indic Wiki IRC in Feb 2014 and
she said I should ask WMIN and CIS-A2K :)


//
Hey,

Any reports from Wikimedia India chapter / CIS - A2K regarding the plans
after WMF grants' team visit?

Thanks,

Ravi//
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Reports on WMF grants team visit

[Ravishankar]

Hey,

Any reports from Wikimedia India chapter / CIS - A2K regarding the plans
after WMF grants' team visit?

Thanks,

Ravi
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