Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia.org.in

2010-01-18 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi Shiju,

wikipedia.in is owned by Jitendra Jain. but he has not put up anything.

I guess, finding an indic language wikipedia is difficult from
http://wikipedia.org/ from a users perspective.

Thanks,
Naveen Francis



2010/1/18 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 I don't think http://wikipedia.in/ is registered by any one. Kindly
 verify.


 But, do we actullay require this site? What is its purpose?  Is it just for
 listing link to Indic languages wikis.



 *NOTE:* Some Indic languages like Tamil, Bengali, and Urdu are the
 official languages in more than one country.

 Shiju



 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Jyothis Edathoot j...@jyothis.net
 wrote:
  I believe that the name wikipedia is owned by foundation. If that is the
  case, Foundation can officially request the InRegistrar to revoke the
 domain
  from him.
  Casey, Please correct me if I am wrong.

 From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
 trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
 involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
 India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
 which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
 first.

 Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
 that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia.org.in

2010-01-18 Thread Anirban Debaprabha Das
Can pressure tactics be employed?

Thanks,
Anirban

From: wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
[mailto:wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Shiju Alex
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He is interested in making wikipedia.inhttp://wikipedia.in/  as homepage for 
indian language wikipedias.
But his condition is that his name must be there in that page. Is it possible 
for us to give the credit on that page ?

I don't think Wikipedians will accept that idea. If that is the case, it is 
better to go with the current system.

Shiju



On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Naveen Francis 
navee...@gmail.commailto:navee...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Shiju,

wikipedia.inhttp://wikipedia.in is owned by Jitendra Jain. but he has not put 
up anything.

I guess, finding an indic language wikipedia is difficult from 
http://wikipedia.org/ from a users perspective.

Thanks,
Naveen Francis



2010/1/18 Shiju Alex 
shijualexonl...@gmail.commailto:shijualexonl...@gmail.com

I don't think http://wikipedia.in/ is registered by any one. Kindly verify.


But, do we actullay require this site? What is its purpose?  Is it just for 
listing link to Indic languages wikis.



NOTE: Some Indic languages like Tamil, Bengali, and Urdu are the official 
languages in more than one country.

Shiju


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Casey Brown 
li...@caseybrown.orgmailto:li...@caseybrown.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Jyothis Edathoot 
j...@jyothis.netmailto:j...@jyothis.net wrote:
 I believe that the name wikipedia is owned by foundation. If that is the
 case, Foundation can officially request the InRegistrar to revoke the domain
 from him.
 Casey, Please correct me if I am wrong.
From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
first.

Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia.org.in

2010-01-18 Thread Omshivaprakash H L
Hi,

wikimedia.in rights are currently with User:Hpnadig though my contact
details are retained in whois records. He will be responding to this thread.

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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:

 On a related note, wikimedia.in is parked by User:Omshivaprakash . We
 could also use this. Though i agree that we must get wikipedia.in from the
 cybersquatter.

 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 He is not interested in donating in the domain name.
 We need a fair deal, since he has spent money on that.
 He wants us to sent a proposal to him.

 Can we make a list of domain names ask 'in registry' to release to
 wikimedia ?

 Thanks,
 Naveen Francis


 2010/1/18 TT Arvind ttteuncm...@gmail.com

 Casey Brown wrote:

  From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
  trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
  involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
  India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
  which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
  first.
 
  Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
  that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

 They have a published dispute resolution policy:


 http://www.registry.in/.IN%20Domain%20Name%20Dispute%20Resolution%20Policy%20(INDRP)http://www.registry.in/.IN%20Domain%20Name%20Dispute%20Resolution%20Policy%20%28INDRP%29

 The relevant clauses are 4  6, possibly 7.  Is Wikipedia registered as
 a trademark in India?  Reading clause 4, I'm not sure anyone except the
 holder of a trademark will be able to challenge a registration.  Have a
 look at the decisions they've put up on the website.  They complainant
 seems to have an Indian trademark or to have applied for one in most
 cases:

 http://www.registry.in/Dispute%20Case%20Decisions

 regards,

 Arvind

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia.org.in

2010-01-17 Thread arunram25
Naveen and all,

There may be more on this list.

I could notice Bishnupriya Manipuri missing here.

bpy.wikipedia.org

Regards
Arun

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia.org.in

2010-01-17 Thread Jyothis Edathoot
Guys,

I believe that the name wikipedia is owned by foundation. If that is the
case, Foundation can officially request the InRegistrar to revoke the domain
from him.

Casey, Please correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,
Jyothis.

http://www.Jyothis.net

http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis

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but i have promises to keep and
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:29 PM, arunra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Francis,

 Please inform him that it is not a fair request.

 His holding the domain name of a registered global entity is tantmount to
 cyber squatting.

 Let us see how he reacts then.

 We could possibly take legal help from the foundation towards addressing
 this. CIS team may also be able to advise us here.

 Regards
 Arun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia.org.in

2010-01-17 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Jyothis Edathoot j...@jyothis.net wrote:
 I believe that the name wikipedia is owned by foundation. If that is the
 case, Foundation can officially request the InRegistrar to revoke the domain
 from him.
 Casey, Please correct me if I am wrong.

From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
first.

Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

-- 
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023

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