Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
During the chennai meetup, one gentlemen had told us people from
blind-user-group do access Tamil Wikipedia through a screen reading software
they have and it was pleasant news to us.

Regards
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 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్
Can you share the tool with us?

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:

 During the chennai meetup, one gentlemen had told us people from
 blind-user-group do access Tamil Wikipedia through a screen reading software
 they have and it was pleasant news to us.

 Regards
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 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:05, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Shiju Alex
Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users from
blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us
feedback also.

Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is *
e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians have
helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software.

If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has developed
text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long back in 2008.
Santhosh can provide details about it.

Shiju Alex

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arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Anoop
Dhvani can be found here : http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shiju,
 Thank you for the software.
 While I couldn't find Dhwani, I believe this is the one for eSpeak:
 http://espeak.sourceforge.net/
 Kindly, verify and if possible please provide the links for Dhwani.
 Thank you,
 Regardsm
 Srikanth R.

 On 26 April 2011 12:19, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users from
 blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us
 feedback also.

 Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is *
 e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians have
 helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software.

 If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has developed
 text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long back in 2008.
 Santhosh can provide details about it.

 Shiju Alex

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Anoop
Also, online version of Dhvani is avaialble at http://silpa.org.in/TTS

Note that this module is experimental.


Thanks

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Dhvani can be found here : http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/


 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shiju,
 Thank you for the software.
 While I couldn't find Dhwani, I believe this is the one for eSpeak:
 http://espeak.sourceforge.net/
 Kindly, verify and if possible please provide the links for Dhwani.
 Thank you,
 Regardsm
 Srikanth R.

 On 26 April 2011 12:19, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users from
 blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us
 feedback also.

 Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is *
 e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians
 have helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software.

 If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has developed
 text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long back in 2008.
 Santhosh can provide details about it.

 Shiju Alex

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Shiju Alex
The below online version is a nice way to test it for your language.

Remember if Dhwani works fine for Malayalam it is not hard to extend the
same for other Indic languages. In fact it is already supporting most of the
Indic languages. At least the following languages are supported.

   - Bengali
   - Gujarati
   - Hindi
   - Kannada
   - Malayalam
   - Marathi
   - Oriya
   - Punjabi
   - Tamil
   - Telugu

More important thing is, the respective language community need to take some
interest to provide this type of extra features to the speakers of that
language.




On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, online version of Dhvani is avaialble at http://silpa.org.in/TTS

 Note that this module is experimental.


 Thanks


 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Dhvani can be found here : http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/


 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shiju,
 Thank you for the software.
 While I couldn't find Dhwani, I believe this is the one for eSpeak:
 http://espeak.sourceforge.net/
 Kindly, verify and if possible please provide the links for Dhwani.
 Thank you,
 Regardsm
 Srikanth R.

 On 26 April 2011 12:19, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users from
 blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us
 feedback also.

 Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is *
 e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians
 have helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software.

 If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has developed
 text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long back in 2008.
 Santhosh can provide details about it.

 Shiju Alex

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Anoop, Shiju,
Thank you for the link(s) and the update.
This is good news for us Indic wikipedians.
--Regards,
Srikanth R.

On 26 April 2011 13:49, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The below online version is a nice way to test it for your language.

 Remember if Dhwani works fine for Malayalam it is not hard to extend the
 same for other Indic languages. In fact it is already supporting most of the
 Indic languages. At least the following languages are supported.

- Bengali
- Gujarati
- Hindi
- Kannada
- Malayalam
- Marathi
- Oriya
- Punjabi
- Tamil
- Telugu

 More important thing is, the respective language community need to take
 some interest to provide this type of extra features to the speakers of that
 language.




 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, online version of Dhvani is avaialble at http://silpa.org.in/TTS

 Note that this module is experimental.


 Thanks


 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Dhvani can be found here : http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/


 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shiju,
 Thank you for the software.
 While I couldn't find Dhwani, I believe this is the one for eSpeak:
 http://espeak.sourceforge.net/
 Kindly, verify and if possible please provide the links for Dhwani.
 Thank you,
 Regardsm
 Srikanth R.

 On 26 April 2011 12:19, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users from
 blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us
 feedback also.

 Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is *
 e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians
 have helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software.

 If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has
 developed  text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long back 
 in
 2008. Santhosh can provide details about it.

 Shiju Alex

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I blogged about this quite recently. There is however quite some distance
between being visually impairred and being blind. Some people I know are
helped with specific fonts that are BIG and/or coloured . The consequence is
that he uses different fonts and has them coloured. When I get his emails, I
always adjust them to something that is nice on my eyes.

As we are developing the WebFonts extension, it would be awesome when it is
tested what font works best for the visually impaired.


NB it is possible to include Dhvani as an extension in MediaWiki. This may
happen when you test it and ask for it on Bugzilla
Thanks,
  GerardM

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2011/04/roar-for-wikipedia-in-india.html



On 26 April 2011 10:25, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anoop, Shiju,
 Thank you for the link(s) and the update.
 This is good news for us Indic wikipedians.
 --Regards,
 Srikanth R.

 On 26 April 2011 13:49, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The below online version is a nice way to test it for your language.

 Remember if Dhwani works fine for Malayalam it is not hard to extend the
 same for other Indic languages. In fact it is already supporting most of the
 Indic languages. At least the following languages are supported.

- Bengali
- Gujarati
- Hindi
- Kannada
- Malayalam
- Marathi
- Oriya
- Punjabi
- Tamil
- Telugu

 More important thing is, the respective language community need to take
 some interest to provide this type of extra features to the speakers of that
 language.




 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, online version of Dhvani is avaialble at http://silpa.org.in/TTS

 Note that this module is experimental.


 Thanks


 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Dhvani can be found here : http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/


 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shiju,
 Thank you for the software.
 While I couldn't find Dhwani, I believe this is the one for eSpeak:
 http://espeak.sourceforge.net/
 Kindly, verify and if possible please provide the links for Dhwani.
 Thank you,
 Regardsm
 Srikanth R.

 On 26 April 2011 12:19, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users
 from blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us
 feedback also.

 Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is
 *e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians
 have helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software.

 If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has
 developed  text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long 
 back in
 2008. Santhosh can provide details about it.

 Shiju Alex

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Thanks for the update.

Here is the page for Dhvani. http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/
It is an amazing tool indeed.

And Silpa http://silpa.org.in/ is a source base of many interesting stuff,
thanks a lot Santhosh and team. Santhosh was introdcing me to the webfont
project few days back, they work indeed great, few small glitches to be
fixed, and then it's ready to be published. And languages like Odia which
have rendering problem in XP  Mac will be really usable by more people.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Arun Ganesh
He was from this group called Third Eye in Chennai  http://thirdeyetvg.com .
They support student volunteers to develop accessible technology.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:

 During the chennai meetup, one gentlemen had told us people from
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 they have and it was pleasant news to us.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Aravind, thank you for the link.
It comes very handy.
Good to know that the state government is involved in this. Maybe, we could
try it in other states.
Regards,
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On 26 April 2011 20:41, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:

 in Kerala , I have seen many people visually challenged people
 accessing wikipedia (english hindi wikipedia's) throughout the state
 using orca+festival  with the training provided by INSIGHT .a joint
 project of state IT mission  a non profit group SPACE this is the
 project website http://insight.kerala.gov.in/about/


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  He was from this group called Third Eye in Chennai
 http://thirdeyetvg.com .
  They support student volunteers to develop accessible technology.
 
  On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
 srik@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  During the chennai meetup, one gentlemen had told us people from
  blind-user-group do access Tamil Wikipedia through a screen reading
 software
  they have and it was pleasant news to us.
  Regards
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aravind, thank you for the link.
 It comes very handy.
 Good to know that the state government is involved in this. Maybe, we could
 try it in other states.
 Regards,
 Srikanth.


The project i mentioned is not limited to wikipedia. It is more on
e-accessibility level.
And the attention received for Kanija encyclopedia , just by using a
Text to Speech system(TTS) implies theneed of lobbying on
E-accessibility policies to make Free Knowledge available for Indian
Population

India has a phenomenally large percentage of disabled persons.
Aproximately 6% of the population has a disability. An additional 34%
of the population is illiterate and an additional 77 million are
elderly (as per 2001 Census). The largest democracy in the world
cannot afford to exclude this significant a chunk of its population
from participating in the life of the country, which is increasingly
intertwined with the Internet.

Such exclusion is contrary to the Indian Constitution which guarantees
to its Citizens a Right to receive information. The Freedom of Speech
and Expression enshrined in Art. 19(1) (a) is inclusive of the right
to receive information. This right extends to receiving speech that is
of a commercial nature as well.

India is signatory to the United Nation Convention on the Rights of
Persons with Disabilities, 2006 (UNCRPD) and the Biwako Millennium
Framework Towards an Inclusive, Barrier-free and Rights-based Society
for Persons with Disabilities in Asia and the Pacific, 2002

In my perception a policy on  E-accessibility on webComputers must
cover Free Knowledge available to all in accessible formats, including
offline access (in the lines of WMF's vision) , Localised Interfaces 
Free Technologies supporting Local language( Text to speech, speech to
text etc , and indic on web Projects) , Open standards ( WCAG 2.0
Guidelines http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/) and Trainings in FOSS based
accessibility tools for Disabled  for ensuring e-accessibility

A process for building a national e-accessibility Policy is in place.
Groups like Centre for Internet  Society is pushing WCAG 2.0 adoption
to that
If WMF  can involve in this work by highlighting the link between
E-accessibility , and Free Knowledge Resources , it will be an
interesting step.

Anivar

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