Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Commons] Commons and the India relation
Thanks a lot Ansu. This is important, keeping in mind that the Commons is virtually the backbone of EVERY Wikimedia project. On 12/30/11, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Good research Srikanth, Keep it up. We should spread awareness during Wikipedia Meetup/workshop/akademy. I will keep this in mind and will keep a small session in every wiki event I am going to conduct. Thanks :) On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, so I went about doing some homework on the Commons and it's usage from both sides in India. Here is what I cam across. This isn't related at all to my previous mail For uploads, Commons is hardly used in India. Major reasons are: 1 The ND/NC Conflict, or the I want my Picture on Wikipedia, but don't want it to be edited. Most people want their content on Wikipedia, [not Commons, but Wikipedia], but don't want it to be edited. I've come across numerous of these cases on Flickr and Picasa. 2 Isn't Wikimedia a part of Wikipedia? How did you get your images out there? People are curious. They think that Wikimedia is part of Wikipedia and that only select stuff lands up there. Again, as Bala stated in Coimbatore, this myth needs to be explained. Wiki is for the people, of the people, by the people. 3 No comments. A LOT of people want to contribute, but don't, simply because one can't comment on pictures on the Commons. I suggest that they upload to Flickr, release it under a Commons Compatible licence, and let FlickrBot take over. 4 Photographs? What? Most people are unaware that the Commons can also host Audio and Video. Awareness is needed. 5 My file isn't getting uploaded [Audio and Video] Most people end up using Propriety formats such as *.mp3, *.aac *.avi and *.mpg. They don't know or don't want to convert it to *.ogg and *.ogv. Again, awareness is the only solution. Around six months ago, F-Secure had stated that Facebook accounts for 4% of all uploaded images. My estimation is that atleast 10% of these images ALSO exists on the Commons. I've been trying to spread awareness about the Commons. Literally preaching about it in my lab, cyber cafes, and the likes. Alternatively, I've been trying to get people interested in the matter on Twitter [My test bed]. Those following me [and NOT too] would know about this. Others can look up http://t.co/lEwZkuWW The only things currently catalysing contributions to the Commons are: 1 TamilWiki Media Contest. 2 Wikipedia Takes Cities. 3 Various Photowalks. 4 The upcoming Wiki Loves Monuments [It will] Do let me know what your thoughts on this matter are. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. P.S: Sundar, Manish, this is the 'research' I mentioned on Twitter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- * *Thanks n Regards Ansuman * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://twitter.com/smileyansu * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ansumang * * ___ * * Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Commons] Commons and the India relation
Nice findings, if these things are included in our presentations during Outreach activities, lot of misconceptions would get clear, and people will definitely know more about it and love it. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Ansu. This is important, keeping in mind that the Commons is virtually the backbone of EVERY Wikimedia project. On 12/30/11, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Good research Srikanth, Keep it up. We should spread awareness during Wikipedia Meetup/workshop/akademy. I will keep this in mind and will keep a small session in every wiki event I am going to conduct. Thanks :) On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, so I went about doing some homework on the Commons and it's usage from both sides in India. Here is what I cam across. This isn't related at all to my previous mail For uploads, Commons is hardly used in India. Major reasons are: 1 The ND/NC Conflict, or the I want my Picture on Wikipedia, but don't want it to be edited. Most people want their content on Wikipedia, [not Commons, but Wikipedia], but don't want it to be edited. I've come across numerous of these cases on Flickr and Picasa. 2 Isn't Wikimedia a part of Wikipedia? How did you get your images out there? People are curious. They think that Wikimedia is part of Wikipedia and that only select stuff lands up there. Again, as Bala stated in Coimbatore, this myth needs to be explained. Wiki is for the people, of the people, by the people. 3 No comments. A LOT of people want to contribute, but don't, simply because one can't comment on pictures on the Commons. I suggest that they upload to Flickr, release it under a Commons Compatible licence, and let FlickrBot take over. 4 Photographs? What? Most people are unaware that the Commons can also host Audio and Video. Awareness is needed. 5 My file isn't getting uploaded [Audio and Video] Most people end up using Propriety formats such as *.mp3, *.aac *.avi and *.mpg. They don't know or don't want to convert it to *.ogg and *.ogv. Again, awareness is the only solution. Around six months ago, F-Secure had stated that Facebook accounts for 4% of all uploaded images. My estimation is that atleast 10% of these images ALSO exists on the Commons. I've been trying to spread awareness about the Commons. Literally preaching about it in my lab, cyber cafes, and the likes. Alternatively, I've been trying to get people interested in the matter on Twitter [My test bed]. Those following me [and NOT too] would know about this. Others can look up http://t.co/lEwZkuWW The only things currently catalysing contributions to the Commons are: 1 TamilWiki Media Contest. 2 Wikipedia Takes Cities. 3 Various Photowalks. 4 The upcoming Wiki Loves Monuments [It will] Do let me know what your thoughts on this matter are. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. P.S: Sundar, Manish, this is the 'research' I mentioned on Twitter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- * *Thanks n Regards Ansuman * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://twitter.com/smileyansu * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ansumang * * ___ * * Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Commons] Commons and the India relation
Thank you Arnav. I think it is good when you have 10 sources saying that with 32 lanes, the Delhi-Gurgaon toll booth is the largest in India, but better when you have a picture of it. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Commons] Commons and the India relation
The only major reason that my use of Commons has gone down is because I don't think that I'd be doing justice to the article with a pic taken from my camera (2 MP) of my mobile phone will be of any help. I do not particularly like my own pictures. Quite a few people have told me that having a low-res pic is better than no pic at all, but this has not moved me to upload more pics to Commons. Yes, these misconceptions exist. Also, have not tried video or audio upload. A video of a Bangalore traffic snarl for a small period might be good? Pradeep On 30 December 2011 22:30, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you Arnav. I think it is good when you have 10 sources saying that with 32 lanes, the Delhi-Gurgaon toll booth is the largest in India, but better when you have a picture of it. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Commons] Commons and the India relation
Prad, having a 2mp camera isn't an eligibility criteria here. My initial set of junk came with one of those. I myself didn't like it. But, I uploaded it as there were no other pics. A low per picture is any day better than No Picture. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
