Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread sankarshan
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub
 http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?272101 ( web version)

[snip]

 It was inevitable, really. Wikimedia had little choice but to come to India
 as growth in the West, or the ‘Global North’, tapers off.

[snip]

 with its “strong culture of free speech” and its numerous languages. “There
 is a huge growth potential here...just look at the number of languages,”
 says Datta.

I had a small conversation with Gautam on Twitter (not the best medium
for a discussion really !) -
https://twitter.com/#!/gkjohn/status/77251118433968128 and so forth.

What interests me is the scope of the word 'growth' - what does growth
mean, when applied to Wikimedia ?
-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
I need to agree with Gautam.

Growth = More Participations* | *More User/Contributions on  both English
and Language Wikipedias* |* More language Wikipedias and Wikimedia Projects

( Not necessarily donations ;P )

- TC

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
  The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub
  http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?272101 ( web version)

 [snip]

  It was inevitable, really. Wikimedia had little choice but to come to
 India
  as growth in the West, or the ‘Global North’, tapers off.

 [snip]

  with its “strong culture of free speech” and its numerous languages.
 “There
  is a huge growth potential here...just look at the number of languages,”
  says Datta.

 I had a small conversation with Gautam on Twitter (not the best medium
 for a discussion really !) -
 https://twitter.com/#!/gkjohn/status/77251118433968128 and so forth.

 What interests me is the scope of the word 'growth' - what does growth
 mean, when applied to Wikimedia ?
 --
 sankarshan mukhopadhyay
 http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread Gautam John
So here's something that got me thinking, assuming there is a bot that
could create perfect translations, both linguistically and
idiomatically, from English to every other language and we ran that on
Wikipedia - would that be considered growth?

Or do we have our own triple bottom line, of a kind? People,
Projects and Knowledge?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/




On 5 June 2011 14:08, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need to agree with Gautam.
 Growth = More Participations | More User/Contributions on  both English and
 Language Wikipedias | More language Wikipedias and Wikimedia Projects
 ( Not necessarily donations ;P )
 - TC

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
  The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub
  http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?272101 ( web version)

 [snip]

  It was inevitable, really. Wikimedia had little choice but to come to
  India
  as growth in the West, or the ‘Global North’, tapers off.

 [snip]

  with its “strong culture of free speech” and its numerous languages.
  “There
  is a huge growth potential here...just look at the number of languages,”
  says Datta.

 I had a small conversation with Gautam on Twitter (not the best medium
 for a discussion really !) -
 https://twitter.com/#!/gkjohn/status/77251118433968128 and so forth.

 What interests me is the scope of the word 'growth' - what does growth
 mean, when applied to Wikimedia ?
 --
 sankarshan mukhopadhyay
 http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 So here's something that got me thinking, assuming there is a bot that
 could create perfect translations, both linguistically and
 idiomatically, from English to every other language and we ran that on
 Wikipedia - would that be considered growth?

 In a limited way, yes - but in a more substantial way, no. The assumption
that all knowledge can get created/contained in one language and then
transferred to others - is that tenable?

Bishakha
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press} : The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub

2011-06-05 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
  The Outlook : Help: This Is A Stub
  http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?272101 ( web version)

 [snip]

  It was inevitable, really. Wikimedia had little choice but to come to
 India
  as growth in the West, or the ‘Global North’, tapers off.

 [snip]

  with its “strong culture of free speech” and its numerous languages.
 “There
  is a huge growth potential here...just look at the number of languages,”
  says Datta.

 I had a small conversation with Gautam on Twitter (not the best medium
 for a discussion really !) -
 https://twitter.com/#!/gkjohn/status/77251118433968128 and so forth.

 What interests me is the scope of the word 'growth' - what does growth
 mean, when applied to Wikimedia ?

 I meant growth in knowledge - and growth in users, editors, languages,
projects when I used the term.

Cheers
Bishakha
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