Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-gu] Attn: Wikisource communities - Don't waste your time typing text. Get paid.

2014-05-02 Thread Jayanta Nath 
Thank you Dhaval for confirming that , I was assuming that Gujarati
Wikisource project  was coming from Gujarati wiki community. It is mean
that project is CIS own preparation  So why they are not proposed for
others Indic Wikisource project like Bengali, Tamil Telugu, Marathi,
Malayalam?


Regards,
Jayanta Nath
EC WMIN
Bengali Wikisource


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Vishnu  wrote:

>  Dear Dhaval,
>
> I am sharing the link on the Meta where this has been discussed
>
>
> Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Questions_about_this_form_and_the_relationship_between_CIS_and_Wikimedia
>
> Best,
> Vishnu
>
> On Friday 02 May 2014 12:38 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas wrote:
>
> Dear Kartikbhai,
>
> That is not the proposal by Gujarati wiki community, it is from CIS. Also,
> if you notice, in that proposal, there is no payment to the community, who
> will really be putting pain in digitising/uploading/typing/correcting the
> content. And on the contrary, CIS staff will be paid a reasonable share
> from the grant.
>
> I have my name mentioned in that proposal, for which I have to had provide
> declaration on a discussion page of CIS's grant application. I am on my
> mobile at the moment so can't find the link to it to share. If anyone wants
> to see my comment, let me know and I will share the link.
>
> Yes, of course, the idea on which CIS has built the proposal was from me,
> but I had only spoken once soon after wikimenia and then came to know about
> proposal just when it was ready. I have had no more involvement in that
> proposal apart from initial idea, which was jointly shared by Sushant
> Savla, a fellow admin on gu.wikisource.
>
> Dhaval
> On 2 May 2014 04:33, "Kartik Mistry"  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
>> > Please visit the link in below email, where Wikimedia Foundation
>> (shortly
>> > known as WMF) is suggesting that they are funding (in simpler term
>> paying)
>> > for content upload. This is the task that we all are doing free of cost
>> so
>> > far. Because you have uploaded hundreds (may be thousands) of pages so
>> far
>> > as we have created 50+ books on gu.wikisource, all our efforts will be
>> paid
>> > now by WMF (in fact should have been paid so far as well). If you have
>> any
>> > doubt, reach out to User:Bluerasberry and User:Ijon on meta
>> > (meta.wikimedia.org). Asaf (User:Ijon) clearly suggests that Bots are
>> under
>> > the paid activity considered by WMF.
>> >
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q2c
>>
>> Already in progress:
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/100_Books_on_Gujarati_Wikisource
>>
>> --
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>>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-gu] Attn: Wikisource communities - Don't waste your time typing text. Get paid.

2014-05-02 Thread Vishnu 

Dear Dhaval,

I am sharing the link on the Meta where this has been discussed

Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Questions_about_this_form_and_the_relationship_between_CIS_and_Wikimedia

Best,
Vishnu

On Friday 02 May 2014 12:38 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas wrote:


Dear Kartikbhai,

That is not the proposal by Gujarati wiki community, it is from CIS. 
Also, if you notice, in that proposal, there is no payment to the 
community, who will really be putting pain in 
digitising/uploading/typing/correcting the content. And on the 
contrary, CIS staff will be paid a reasonable share from the grant.


I have my name mentioned in that proposal, for which I have to had 
provide declaration on a discussion page of CIS's grant application. I 
am on my mobile at the moment so can't find the link to it to share. 
If anyone wants to see my comment, let me know and I will share the link.


Yes, of course, the idea on which CIS has built the proposal was from 
me, but I had only spoken once soon after wikimenia and then came to 
know about proposal just when it was ready. I have had no more 
involvement in that proposal apart from initial idea, which was 
jointly shared by Sushant Savla, a fellow admin on gu.wikisource.


Dhaval

On 2 May 2014 04:33, "Kartik Mistry" > wrote:


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas mailto:dsv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Please visit the link in below email, where Wikimedia Foundation
(shortly
> known as WMF) is suggesting that they are funding (in simpler
term paying)
> for content upload. This is the task that we all are doing free
of cost so
> far. Because you have uploaded hundreds (may be thousands) of
pages so far
> as we have created 50+ books on gu.wikisource, all our efforts
will be paid
> now by WMF (in fact should have been paid so far as well). If
you have any
> doubt, reach out to User:Bluerasberry and User:Ijon on meta
> (meta.wikimedia.org ). Asaf
(User:Ijon) clearly suggests that Bots are under
> the paid activity considered by WMF.
>
>

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q2c

Already in progress:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/100_Books_on_Gujarati_Wikisource

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-gu] Attn: Wikisource communities - Don't waste your time typing text. Get paid.

2014-05-02 Thread Vishnu 

Dear Dhaval,

I am sharing the link on the Meta where this has been discussed

Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Questions_about_this_form_and_the_relationship_between_CIS_and_Wikimedia

Best,
Vishnu


On Friday 02 May 2014 12:38 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas wrote:


Dear Kartikbhai,

That is not the proposal by Gujarati wiki community, it is from CIS. 
Also, if you notice, in that proposal, there is no payment to the 
community, who will really be putting pain in 
digitising/uploading/typing/correcting the content. And on the 
contrary, CIS staff will be paid a reasonable share from the grant.


I have my name mentioned in that proposal, for which I have to had 
provide declaration on a discussion page of CIS's grant application. I 
am on my mobile at the moment so can't find the link to it to share. 
If anyone wants to see my comment, let me know and I will share the link.


Yes, of course, the idea on which CIS has built the proposal was from 
me, but I had only spoken once soon after wikimenia and then came to 
know about proposal just when it was ready. I have had no more 
involvement in that proposal apart from initial idea, which was 
jointly shared by Sushant Savla, a fellow admin on gu.wikisource.


Dhaval

On 2 May 2014 04:33, "Kartik Mistry" > wrote:


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas mailto:dsv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Please visit the link in below email, where Wikimedia Foundation
(shortly
> known as WMF) is suggesting that they are funding (in simpler
term paying)
> for content upload. This is the task that we all are doing free
of cost so
> far. Because you have uploaded hundreds (may be thousands) of
pages so far
> as we have created 50+ books on gu.wikisource, all our efforts
will be paid
> now by WMF (in fact should have been paid so far as well). If
you have any
> doubt, reach out to User:Bluerasberry and User:Ijon on meta
> (meta.wikimedia.org ). Asaf
(User:Ijon) clearly suggests that Bots are under
> the paid activity considered by WMF.
>
>

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q2c

Already in progress:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/100_Books_on_Gujarati_Wikisource

--
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-gu] Attn: Wikisource communities - Don't waste your time typing text. Get paid.

2014-05-02 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas 
Dear Kartikbhai,

That is not the proposal by Gujarati wiki community, it is from CIS. Also,
if you notice, in that proposal, there is no payment to the community, who
will really be putting pain in digitising/uploading/typing/correcting the
content. And on the contrary, CIS staff will be paid a reasonable share
from the grant.

I have my name mentioned in that proposal, for which I have to had provide
declaration on a discussion page of CIS's grant application. I am on my
mobile at the moment so can't find the link to it to share. If anyone wants
to see my comment, let me know and I will share the link.

Yes, of course, the idea on which CIS has built the proposal was from me,
but I had only spoken once soon after wikimenia and then came to know about
proposal just when it was ready. I have had no more involvement in that
proposal apart from initial idea, which was jointly shared by Sushant
Savla, a fellow admin on gu.wikisource.

Dhaval
On 2 May 2014 04:33, "Kartik Mistry"  wrote:

> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> > Please visit the link in below email, where Wikimedia Foundation (shortly
> > known as WMF) is suggesting that they are funding (in simpler term
> paying)
> > for content upload. This is the task that we all are doing free of cost
> so
> > far. Because you have uploaded hundreds (may be thousands) of pages so
> far
> > as we have created 50+ books on gu.wikisource, all our efforts will be
> paid
> > now by WMF (in fact should have been paid so far as well). If you have
> any
> > doubt, reach out to User:Bluerasberry and User:Ijon on meta
> > (meta.wikimedia.org). Asaf (User:Ijon) clearly suggests that Bots are
> under
> > the paid activity considered by WMF.
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q2c
>
> Already in progress:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/100_Books_on_Gujarati_Wikisource
>
> --
> Kartik Mistry/કાર્તિક મિસ્ત્રી | IRC: kart_
> {kartikm, 0x1f1f}.wordpress.com
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-gu] Attn: Wikisource communities - Don't waste your time typing text. Get paid.

2014-05-01 Thread Kartik Mistry 
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> Please visit the link in below email, where Wikimedia Foundation (shortly
> known as WMF) is suggesting that they are funding (in simpler term paying)
> for content upload. This is the task that we all are doing free of cost so
> far. Because you have uploaded hundreds (may be thousands) of pages so far
> as we have created 50+ books on gu.wikisource, all our efforts will be paid
> now by WMF (in fact should have been paid so far as well). If you have any
> doubt, reach out to User:Bluerasberry and User:Ijon on meta
> (meta.wikimedia.org). Asaf (User:Ijon) clearly suggests that Bots are under
> the paid activity considered by WMF.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q2c

Already in progress:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/100_Books_on_Gujarati_Wikisource

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