Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-06 Thread praveenp
Please read mails in this thread. Counter acting first mail, some people forwarding the idea that one's contribution is relevant if only they are contributing through a free software. Which is totally wrong. Selecting a convenient software is user's option. And even sometimes they have no options

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-06 Thread Gautam John
On 6 January 2012 20:49, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Please read mails in this thread. Counter acting first mail, some people forwarding the idea that one's contribution is relevant if only they are contributing through a free software. Which is totally wrong. Agreed. So long as the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Praveen Prakash
FOSS and wikimedia project have some similarities but they are different projects. Wikimedians are not a subgroup of FOSS followers, infact most of them living outside ideal FOSS world (I use free softwares, but i don't like FOSS extremism, many others using non-free softwares). I don't think

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Gautam John
On 5 January 2012 19:02, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: softwares, but i don't like FOSS extremism, many others using non-free softwares). Agreed. Extremism, FOSS, Wikipedian or otherwise, isn't a good thing. Choice, on the other hand, is. Thank you. Best, Gautam

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Well elucidated, Praveen. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld On 05/01/2012, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 5 January 2012 19:02, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: softwares, but i don't like FOSS extremism, many others using non-free softwares). Agreed. Extremism,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Praveen, I'm assuming good faith in thinking that you do not mean to accuse FOSS advocates of imposing their POV on Wikimedians in general. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Pradeep Mohandas

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Debanjan Bandyopadhyay
Excuse me for commenting here, I am not a techie, hence I assume, it might not be the best place for me to comment, but after so many discussion over FOSS or not, (yes, I googled what is FOSS) and I just want to know, is this discussion really necessary? Is it really necessary to get into long

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Praveen Prakash
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Praveen, I'm assuming good faith in thinking that you do not mean to accuse FOSS advocates of imposing their POV on Wikimedians in general. Whatever! FOSS or Something else! One cannot demoralize a wikimedian by

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Ashwin Baindur
On a lighter vein, this will give a nice script for a conspiracy theory - * One cannot demoralize a wikimedian by peeping into the license of software which he/she uses to contribute wikimedia projects. * Rest assured, Praveen, that other than hoping that we will get enlightened by expressing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Praveen Prakash
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: On a lighter vein, this will give a nice script for a conspiracy theory - * One cannot demoralize a wikimedian by peeping into the license of software which he/she uses to contribute wikimedia projects. * Rest

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-05 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Obviously, you don't understand, WHO is forcing you? There is nothing to rebel against. This is my last post on this issue but not on brinjal. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Praveen Prakash

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 4 January 2012 13:38, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: list and off the list. Wikipedia so't wholely reliant on FOSS, and will never be. I don't mean to offend anyone but this is it. Please

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread wheredevelsdare
Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argumentum_ad_Jimbonem From: anivar.arav...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:06:47 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Gautam John gau

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Gautam John
...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:06:47 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 4 January 2012 13:38, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread wheredevelsdare
to think. - Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:32:32 +0530 From: gau...@prathambooks.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia Please attack the argument on merit. Not the person articulating them. Thank you. Best, Gautam (handheld) On Jan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
With due respect to Jimmy Wales, Free Knowledge may run on Free Software but doesn't need to be contributed using Free Software. I remember the time when some FOSS activists/extremists didn't like me editing Wikipedia because I use Windows and Opera, neither of which are FOSS. -- Regards,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
of the proposal should be primary, not what I happen to think. - Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:32:32 +0530 From: gau...@prathambooks.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia Please attack the argument on merit. Not the person articulating

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argumentum_ad_Jimbonem It was not. Instead of articulating same point again, i pointed the link. It does not matter even if it someone else's article . Please respond to it that ,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread wheredevelsdare
...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:20:18 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argumentum_ad_Jimbonem

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:31 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Would have been good to mention that when you posted the link. I am not much aware about such strange rules in English wikipedia :-) Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
You do not provide only references, you write the relevant paragraph that you are referencing. We did not think that we should write that down. The originator of this thread has informed me that he has left the list. Agree with Pranav, that we have much better things to do than discuss this. If

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: You do not provide only references, you write the relevant paragraph that you are referencing. We did not think that we should write that down. The whole article is relevant in the context of this thread, so why

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Ashwin Baindur
I think people need to increase their tolerance level for what is not bad faith or unencyclopedic on this list. It seems that just mentioning FOSS is enough to trigger off rejoinders. See WP:IDONTLIKEIT This list exists to discuss matters related to Wikimedia community at large. Occasionally it

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: So I request that we may all simmer down a bit. If this continues then I would like to join them since I cant beat them. This I shall do by getting upset about the abhorrent word *baingan. *I dont like the taste of