Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Ravishankar
This is a really useful discussion and there's a powerful idea. I agree with Ravi that there is an opportunity to build awareness and traffic to Indic language sites. While we are already seeing considerable readership of Indic languages, there's clearly a lot more that can be done to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Anirudh Bhati
Most of the visitors on Wikipedia end up there through search engines. But there is another group which attempts to access Wikipedia directly by typing in www.wikipedia.com or www.wikipedia.org in the address bar of their browsers. Currently, the landing page for www.wikipedia.org (wikipedia.com

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, Perhaps somebody here has already brought this up, but you can now switch languages on Commons using a drop down menu. You can spot the drop down just below the Village Pump link. There is also a helpful site notice, that suggested I read Commons in British English :). It seems to do this

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Shiju Alex
Currently, the landing page for www.wikipedia.org (wikipedia.comredirects to wikipedia.org) lists the ten largest Wikipedia projects. Apart from the English Wikipedia, the rest of the projects are practically useless for most of us in this country. Replacing the foreign language projects

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-20 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Rather than replacing, I suggest reorganising the order. Indic ones on top and others below. Who knows, an Indian may try and access European or African languages too. On 12/20/11, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Currently, the landing page for www.wikipedia.org

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 17:24, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available in Tamil. Very neatly done as it somehow detected that I am from Tamilnadu. Geolocation within India is impossible. My guess is it used your

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
A good idea no doubt, but I think the detecting which state the user comes from part is a small road block. While Google Mail has been showing which state the IP is from in the logins section, I think the browser or system language should also be taken into consideration, though it may seem

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
On a slightly related note http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector -TC On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available in Tamil. Very neatly done as it somehow detected

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Subha, If you check WordPress.com it shows all available Indic languages. If you check WordPress.org, I think it is showing only Tamil (may be because as you said it is the only translation available and that too for Srilankan Tamil : ) But the point is: Even if you show all available Indic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
A small extension of my previous post. Logic, geolocation within India is very much possible. Atleast I know Google can do it. The only hitch is that it doesn't work well with Wireless connections. For instance, I frequently use a Reliance Wireless modem, which is registered in K'taka but even in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
A single line like Wikipedia is also available in Bengali, Hind, Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil at the top and to the left of Login/create account link will be fine. The line can be as what you see in http://www.google.co.in/ . If we feel showing too many languages is clutter, show random and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Ravi, I agree. The rotation system, if implemented works best. However do note, this is best suited for the desktop version only, not Mobiles. I'd like to point out that - People who use Opera Mini on their mobiles, get routed thru a European server while all BlackBerry users get routed thru a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Surya Prakash
I think Sundar has suggested something like this before in this list. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 19 December 2011 18:04, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote: Ravi, I agree. The rotation system, if

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Srikanth, Even if only x% (or say people who wear white shirt on Monday evenings) are going to see this notice, it is still useful and not going to hurt the project in anyway. Unless the community stands united and requests this feature, it will not happen any sooner. So, let us not loose steam

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 18:12, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Srikanth, {{Disambiguation needed}},Not just here, in many threads going forward, especially atleast 2 Srikanth's are active on the list :D So, let us not loose steam on discussing the technical hurdles up front. I

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Today, I went to download WordPress and it told me it is also available in Tamil. Very neatly done as it somehow detected that I am from Tamilnadu. See the screenshot at: http://ravidreams.com/ta-wordpress.png A

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Theo10011
Also, we already have that in the left side of every page, the sidebar on every article lists the version of that article available in different languages. Regards Theo On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ravishankar

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Theo, last time I checked, Indic languages are no longer listed in the side of the English Main Page. A limited number of languages is there with a link to More Languages. On 12/19/11, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Also, we already have that in the left side of every page, the sidebar on

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Ravishankar
Conclusion, it did not make a dent. Most people dismissed the banners, and never clicked, those that did, never followed to edit. It made little to no difference in the visitor or editor stats for the period. Theo, Clearly, links in sidebars are not getting enough eyeballs. It is also hard

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Theo, Clearly, links in sidebars are not getting enough eyeballs. It is also hard to look for one's own language when there are too many interwiki links. Unless you are intentionally looking for it, it is hard to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ONE simple step to double or triple visits to Indic Wikipedias

2011-12-19 Thread Hisham
On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: This is a really useful discussion and there's a powerful idea. I agree with Ravi that there is an opportunity to build awareness and traffic to Indic language sites.