Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Pradeep Mohandas]

Sudhanwa,

Given the promise, perhaps you could repeat your question on the Chapter's wiki 
and solicit the EC's response?

Warm regards,
Pradeep

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15-Sep-2014, at 14:23, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:
> 
> Dear Viswam,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:41 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)
>  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Kindly see this page on the public wiki of Wikimedia India Chapter
>> announcing the newly reconstituted Director Board.
>> 
>> As a matter of self-discipline, Wikimedia India Chapter will try to abstain
>> from discussions on its own internal affairs in this forum / mail list to
>> the maximum possible extend.
>> Everyone is welcome to inquire and discuss any topics related to the chapter
>> on appropriate pages or talk pages within the public wiki of the chapter
>> mentioned above. From the chapter, we assure you prompt and responsible
>> responses there, abiding by the very culture of Wikimedia missions.
> 
> The current messup has happened because of absolutely no response from
> the EC to any members and/or community on any of the
> forums-wiki/mailing list etc. Whatever you are telling about abstaing
> from discussions is just a continuation of the same.
> 
> The wiki page about the new members of the EC was created just
> yesterday and as Pradeep rightly pointed out, new members were
> mentioned as delegates on the consultation page much earlier. Are you
> hiding something here?
> 
> 
> IIRC, there was a resolution earlier stating that all kind of
> decisions taken by EC are to be made public. That has not been
> followed for quite a long time. At least from the time I have asking
> for updates. Can you please check the internal wiki and find that
> resolution and work accordingly.
> 
> Please note that even though this mail is addressed to you, it is
> meant for all in the EC. In one of the mails you had mentioned that
> you will not respond to any mails other than directing to you. Thats
> why this communication is addressed to you in a hope that at least one
> person will read and act on it.
> 
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
> 
>> 
>> 
>> With regards,
>> Viswanathan Prabhakaran
>> Treasurer,
>> (On behalf of the Executive Committee)
>> Wikimedia India Chapter
>> 
>> viswapra...@wikimedia.in
>> Wikimedia user:viswaprabha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Srikanth,
>>> 
>>> Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
>>> wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
>>> studying the MOA.
>>> 
>>> From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
>>> members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
>>> it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
>>> about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
>>> by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
>>> justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
>>> reason.
>>> 
>>> It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
>>> mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
>>> on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
>>> EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
>>> Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)
>>> 
>>> Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
>>> way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
>>> you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
>>> not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
>>> for the chapter.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> -Sudhanwa
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>>>  wrote:
 To the remaining EC members,
 This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
 
 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
 year,
 ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
 reinstate
 membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
 membership as
 on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was
 the
 first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week
 of
 July itself.
 
 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
 second and third EC member loss out of seven.
 
 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were
 passed
 regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
 However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
 July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
 Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and
 void.
 
 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
 nu

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Viswam,

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:41 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Kindly see this page on the public wiki of Wikimedia India Chapter
> announcing the newly reconstituted Director Board.
>
> As a matter of self-discipline, Wikimedia India Chapter will try to abstain
> from discussions on its own internal affairs in this forum / mail list to
> the maximum possible extend.
> Everyone is welcome to inquire and discuss any topics related to the chapter
> on appropriate pages or talk pages within the public wiki of the chapter
> mentioned above. From the chapter, we assure you prompt and responsible
> responses there, abiding by the very culture of Wikimedia missions.

The current messup has happened because of absolutely no response from
the EC to any members and/or community on any of the
forums-wiki/mailing list etc. Whatever you are telling about abstaing
from discussions is just a continuation of the same.

The wiki page about the new members of the EC was created just
yesterday and as Pradeep rightly pointed out, new members were
mentioned as delegates on the consultation page much earlier. Are you
hiding something here?


IIRC, there was a resolution earlier stating that all kind of
decisions taken by EC are to be made public. That has not been
followed for quite a long time. At least from the time I have asking
for updates. Can you please check the internal wiki and find that
resolution and work accordingly.

Please note that even though this mail is addressed to you, it is
meant for all in the EC. In one of the mails you had mentioned that
you will not respond to any mails other than directing to you. Thats
why this communication is addressed to you in a hope that at least one
person will read and act on it.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

>
>
> With regards,
> Viswanathan Prabhakaran
> Treasurer,
> (On behalf of the Executive Committee)
> Wikimedia India Chapter
>
> viswapra...@wikimedia.in
> Wikimedia user:viswaprabha
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
>  wrote:
>>
>> Dear Srikanth,
>>
>> Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
>> wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
>> studying the MOA.
>>
>> From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
>> members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
>> it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
>> about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
>> by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
>> justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
>> reason.
>>
>> It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
>> mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
>> on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
>> EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
>> Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)
>>
>> Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
>> way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
>> you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
>> not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
>> for the chapter.
>>
>> Regards
>> -Sudhanwa
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>>  wrote:
>> > To the remaining EC members,
>> > This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
>> >
>> > 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
>> > year,
>> > ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
>> > reinstate
>> > membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
>> > membership as
>> > on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was
>> > the
>> > first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week
>> > of
>> > July itself.
>> >
>> > 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
>> > second and third EC member loss out of seven.
>> >
>> > 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were
>> > passed
>> > regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
>> > However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
>> > July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
>> > Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and
>> > void.
>> >
>> > 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
>> > number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a
>> > minimum
>> > quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left
>> > (Jayanta,
>> > Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can be
>> > passed.
>> >
>> > 5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC
>> > members
>> > now contact the Regi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Pradeep Mohandas]

Viswa,

Suggest you also a leave a note in this regard on the talk page here - 
http://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India

Warm regards,
Pradeep
Sent from my iPhone

> On 15-Sep-2014, at 4:41, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Kindly see this page on the public wiki of Wikimedia India Chapter announcing 
> the newly reconstituted Director Board.
> 
> As a matter of self-discipline, Wikimedia India Chapter will try to abstain 
> from discussions on its own internal affairs in this forum / mail list to the 
> maximum possible extend.
> Everyone is welcome to inquire and discuss any topics related to the chapter 
> on appropriate pages or talk pages within the public wiki of the chapter 
> mentioned above. From the chapter, we assure you prompt and responsible 
> responses there, abiding by the very culture of Wikimedia missions.
> 
> 
> With regards,
> Viswanathan Prabhakaran
> Treasurer,
> (On behalf of the Executive Committee)
> Wikimedia India Chapter 
> 
> viswapra...@wikimedia.in
> Wikimedia user:viswaprabha
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
>>  wrote:
>> Dear Srikanth,
>> 
>> Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
>> wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
>> studying the MOA.
>> 
>> From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
>> members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
>> it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
>> about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
>> by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
>> justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
>> reason.
>> 
>> It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
>> mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
>> on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
>> EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
>> Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)
>> 
>> Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
>> way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
>> you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
>> not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
>> for the chapter.
>> 
>> Regards
>> -Sudhanwa
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>>  wrote:
>> > To the remaining EC members,
>> > This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
>> >
>> > 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal year,
>> > ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to reinstate
>> > membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her membership 
>> > as
>> > on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was the
>> > first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week of
>> > July itself.
>> >
>> > 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
>> > second and third EC member loss out of seven.
>> >
>> > 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were passed
>> > regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
>> > However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
>> > July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
>> > Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and 
>> > void.
>> >
>> > 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
>> > number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a 
>> > minimum
>> > quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left 
>> > (Jayanta,
>> > Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can be passed.
>> >
>> > 5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC members
>> > now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and ask 
>> > them
>> > to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting and
>> > elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.
>> >
>> > 6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
>> > cannot take any decision at the moment.
>> >
>> > P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put in
>> > a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
>> > prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve 
>> > hers
>> > or any other new applications until elections are held. If an administrator
>> > is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator would have 
>> > the
>> > power to approve new applications.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
>> > What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
>>

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Vikram Vincent]

On 15 September 2014 00:39, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
wrote:

> 
> Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
> way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
> you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
> not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
> for the chapter.
>

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

Dear all,

Kindly see this page on the public wiki

of Wikimedia India Chapter announcing the newly reconstituted Director
Board.

As a matter of self-discipline, Wikimedia India Chapter will try to abstain
from discussions on its own internal affairs in this forum / mail list to
the maximum possible extend.
Everyone is welcome to inquire and discuss any topics related to the
chapter on appropriate pages or talk pages within the public wiki of the
chapter mentioned above. From the chapter, we assure you prompt and
responsible responses there, abiding by the very culture of Wikimedia
missions.


With regards,
Viswanathan Prabhakaran
Treasurer,
(On behalf of the Executive Committee)
Wikimedia India Chapter

viswapra...@wikimedia.in
Wikimedia user:viswaprabha



On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:

> Dear Srikanth,
>
> Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
> wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
> studying the MOA.
>
> From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
> members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
> it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
> about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
> by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
> justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
> reason.
>
> It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
> mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
> on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
> EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
> Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)
>
> Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
> way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
> you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
> not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
> for the chapter.
>
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
>
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
> > To the remaining EC members,
> > This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
> >
> > 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
> year,
> > ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
> reinstate
> > membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
> membership as
> > on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was the
> > first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week
> of
> > July itself.
> >
> > 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
> > second and third EC member loss out of seven.
> >
> > 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were passed
> > regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
> > However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
> > July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
> > Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and
> void.
> >
> > 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
> > number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a
> minimum
> > quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left
> (Jayanta,
> > Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can be
> passed.
> >
> > 5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC
> members
> > now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and ask
> them
> > to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting and
> > elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.
> >
> > 6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
> > cannot take any decision at the moment.
> >
> > P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put
> in
> > a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
> > prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve
> hers
> > or any other new applications until elections are held. If an
> administrator
> > is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator would have
> the
> > power to approve new applications.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
> > What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
> > back.
> >
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Srikanth,

Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
studying the MOA.

From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
reason.

It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)

Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
for the chapter.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
 wrote:
> To the remaining EC members,
> This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
>
> 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal year,
> ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to reinstate
> membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her membership as
> on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was the
> first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week of
> July itself.
>
> 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
> second and third EC member loss out of seven.
>
> 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were passed
> regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
> However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
> July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
> Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and void.
>
> 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
> number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a minimum
> quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left (Jayanta,
> Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can be passed.
>
> 5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC members
> now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and ask them
> to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting and
> elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.
>
> 6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
> cannot take any decision at the moment.
>
> P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put in
> a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
> prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve hers
> or any other new applications until elections are held. If an administrator
> is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator would have the
> power to approve new applications.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
> What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
> back.
>
> Ab tak Chappan!
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rsrikanth05/Project_56
>
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> https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi,

Srikanth is referring to the cessation of membership as a result of
non-payment of fees. It is placed as under, from Article V, 2:

"By failing to pay annual membership fees of the Society by the end of
the third month from the start of the Fiscal Year for which said fees
were due; in such cases membership may be reinstated upon payment of
fees, in case of all members."

Srikanth interprets this to mean that once you do not pay your
membership dues by June 30 (for which Sowmyan also sent several emails
to this list, alerting on the members list as well) you are no longer
a member of the Chapter.

This has happened to me as well. I have lost membership number 52 due
to non-renewal and when I re-applied, the membership number allotted
to me was in the 280s in 2012/3. The Chapter has hence had this
practice since 2013 at least, if not earlier. Hence, once the member
pays the fees, it is treated as a fresh membership application and not
as a renewal. Also, the fresh membership application has to be
approved by the Executive Committee, which also acts as something akin
to the Membership Committee in other non-profits.

From Viswam's emails to this list, I think he has interpreted this
rule to apply that once the person pays the membership fees,
membership is considered as renewed and not as a fresh application.

EC, I would suggest that you consult your legal aide and Sowmyan on
the interpretation of this clause and also it's interpretation in
practice thus far. I would think that it is in the best interests of
the Chapter to clear this at the earliest.

warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas





On 13 September 2014 21:06, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)
 wrote:
> Dear All,
> On behalf of the EC, I would wait for at least three senior members
> (respectable to me)  of this list to opine here if this mail qualifies for a
> reply here in this exact forum or not. Until then, kindly avoid believing in
> the contorted interpretations expressed in the same.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> -Viswam
>
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
>>
>> To the remaining EC members,
>> This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
>>
>> 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
>> year, ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
>> reinstate membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
>> membership as on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter.
>> This was the first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the
>> first week of July itself.
>>
>> 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
>> second and third EC member loss out of seven.
>>
>> 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were passed
>> regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
>> However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
>> July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
>> Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and void.
>>
>> 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
>> number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a minimum
>> quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left (Jayanta,
>> Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can be passed.
>>
>> 5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC
>> members now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and
>> ask them to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting
>> and elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.
>>
>> 6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
>> cannot take any decision at the moment.
>>
>> P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put
>> in a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
>> prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve hers
>> or any other new applications until elections are held. If an administrator
>> is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator would have the
>> power to approve new applications.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
>> What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
>> back.
>>
>> Ab tak Chappan!
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rsrikanth05/Project_56
>>
>> Please sign this petition for Volvo buses in Coimbatore:
>>
>> https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

Dear All,
On behalf of the EC, I would wait for at least three senior members
(respectable to me)  of this list to opine here if this mail qualifies for
a reply here in this exact forum or not. Until then, kindly avoid believing
in the contorted interpretations expressed in the same.

Thank you.


-Viswam

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To the remaining EC members,
> This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
>
> 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
> year, ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
> reinstate membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
> membership as on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter.
> This was the first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the
> first week of July itself.
>
> 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
> second and third EC member loss out of seven.
>
> 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were passed
> regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
> However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
> July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
> Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and void.
>
> 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
> number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a
> minimum quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left
> (Jayanta, Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can
> be passed.
>
> 5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC
> members now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and
> ask them to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting
> and elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.
>
> 6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
> cannot take any decision at the moment.
>
> P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put
> in a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
> prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve
> hers or any other new applications until elections are held. If an
> administrator is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator
> would have the power to approve new applications.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
> What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
> back.
>
> Ab tak Chappan!
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rsrikanth05/Project_56
>
> Please sign this petition for Volvo buses in Coimbatore:
>
> https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore
>
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