[Wikimediameta-l] [Fwd: Wikisource]
Eh, thank you for the support GerardM. Ant - Hoi, There is a growing movement where people restore images and recordings and make them part of both featured articles, sounds and pictures. They restore pictures and fyi this involves a lot of work. This project that is centred around the "Not the Wikipedia News" people, is looking for material that helps in making the effort not as USA centred. The best way forward is in making the group of people involved bigger; this is done by reaching out to other projects and sharing the expertise gained. When museums make their material public, the public can become involved in the restauration of the material. Key here is the license of the material involved; the work is not done for free when this means that it cannot be used / shared. Also the quality of the digitised material has to be really good. While I do expect that people will get involved, I do not see that an integral job of such resources are to be expected. I think it great when the cherries get picked. Thanks, GerardM So YES, a great idea. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > > Hello, > > > > A couple of weeks ago, I went to an event organized in Paris by the > > Fren ch Government about "economics of culture". > > During that event, I mentionned that the French chapter has several > > ongoing discussions with various museums to set up content partnerships. > > > > Here are two examples of such potential partnerships: > > * a small museum with very old and precious documents. The museum has > > limited room for access and documents are fragile, so only a few > > visitors are allowed to look at them. The museum wants to digitize these > > docs, but has limited technical infrastructure. > > Opportunity: we host their documents on wikisource and provide them > > additional visibility through an article on Wikipedia, featuring their > > best manuscripts. > > * a large museum already has a digitization procedure for the documents, > > as well as a hosting service. However, the digitized version contains > > mistakes (errors generated in the process) and the museum simply does > > not have the human power to provide the corrections of the numerous > > documents digitized by their services. Our members can take care of this > > task. > > > > Wikisources members know all that very well and much better than I. I > > just summarize that very quickly for reference. > > > > In Europe, at least in some countries, we meet several problems > > * many scholars have a rather bad image of Wikipedia (because written by > > amateurs, anonymous members, plagued by vandals etc...) > > * the other wikimedia projects have rather poor popularity and would > > benefit from more "light" > > * journalists are bored and need new information (otherwise, they focus > > on all the bad stories) > > * some projects are more difficult to advertise than others, because > > they are full competitors with other commercial projects of very good > > quality (eg, wiktionary, wikinews...) > > > > > > Besides, my feeling is that contributors and in particular members from > > chapters need a project on which they can team. > > > > I would like to propose that next year be Wikisource year. > > > > And since the planet is very large, if this is done in large part > > through chapters, that it be an opportunity for some european chapters > > to work together. > > > > I am not necessarily thinking of anything very complicated. Examples of > > efforts we could make together: > > > > * leaflets about wikisource updated and available in a large number of > > languages; > > * webbuttons to advertise the project on the web; > > * each time someone gives a conference about Wikipedia, take the > > opportunity to spend a couple of minutes of Wikisource as well; > > distribute leaflets; > > * summarize our best cases on Wikisource; > > * develop stories about these best cases. Illustrate. Feature these > > stories on chapter websites; > > * develop initiatives on projects for cross project challenges (eg, best > > article with content improved in at least 3 projects); > > * chapters may write and distribute a couple of press releases about > > wikisource; > > * chapters may propose conferences about wikisource (and speakers > > available to talk about it); > > * develop arguments for museums etc... > > > > Measures of success are numerous, from improvements of Wikisource > > (number of docs), number of mentions in the press, partnerships > > established with museums etc... > > > > What do you think ? > > > > Ant > > > > > > ___ > > Wikipedia-l mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l ___ Wikimediameta-l mailing list Wikimediameta-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediameta-l
Re: [Wikimediameta-l] [Fwd: Wikisource]
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Florence Devouard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forward. I was on the wrong list. > ... > In Europe, at least in some countries, we meet several problems > * many scholars have a rather bad image of Wikipedia (because written by > amateurs, anonymous members, plagued by vandals etc...) > * the other wikimedia projects have rather poor popularity and would > benefit from more "light" > * journalists are bored and need new information (otherwise, they focus > on all the bad stories) In English speaking nations, we are also seeing contributors becoming bored, resulting in contributors giving journalists bad stories. Wikisource will not only give the contributors _work_ to do, they will have infinitely more to write about historical topics. > * some projects are more difficult to advertise than others, because > they are full competitors with other commercial projects of very good > quality (eg, wiktionary, wikinews...) > > Besides, my feeling is that contributors and in particular members from > chapters need a project on which they can team. > > I would like to propose that next year be Wikisource year. I second that! :-) > And since the planet is very large, if this is done in large part > through chapters, that it be an opportunity for some european chapters > to work together. > > I am not necessarily thinking of anything very complicated. Examples of > efforts we could make together: > > * leaflets about wikisource updated and available in a large number of > languages; > * webbuttons to advertise the project on the web; > * each time someone gives a conference about Wikipedia, take the > opportunity to spend a couple of minutes of Wikisource as well; > distribute leaflets; > * summarize our best cases on Wikisource; > * develop stories about these best cases. Illustrate. Feature these > stories on chapter websites; > * develop initiatives on projects for cross project challenges (eg, best > article with content improved in at least 3 projects); > * chapters may write and distribute a couple of press releases about > wikisource; > * chapters may propose conferences about wikisource (and speakers > available to talk about it); > * develop arguments for museums etc... > > Measures of success are numerous, from improvements of Wikisource > (number of docs), number of mentions in the press, partnerships > established with museums etc... This is the (only?) important measurement - proofread pages backed by scans: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:ProofreadPage_Statistics As those graphs are in such a lovely upward direction, it would be great if we could see an update to these stats: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/ There are a few more languages adopting the proofreading technology, and other Wikisource site requests listed here: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Bugs The biggest structural problem is the inability to upload djvu files greater than 20Mb. Changing the limit to 40Mb will make the situation only marginally better. e.g. [[w:JPS197]] is over 63Mb, and this held us up for over 12 months in a ridiculous copyvio discussion until it was split into four chunks, which means that a "page" can not be simply and reliably found. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Possible_copyright_violations/Archives/2008-06#JPS_1917 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Index:JPS1917 Also we are now building a centralised list of works digitised by the various Wikisource projects. http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Completed_texts -- John V ___ Wikimediameta-l mailing list Wikimediameta-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediameta-l
[Wikimediameta-l] [Fwd: Wikisource]
Forward. I was on the wrong list. Ant --- Hello, A couple of weeks ago, I went to an event organized in Paris by the French Government about "economics of culture". During that event, I mentionned that the French chapter has several ongoing discussions with various museums to set up content partnerships. Here are two examples of such potential partnerships: * a small museum with very old and precious documents. The museum has limited room for access and documents are fragile, so only a few visitors are allowed to look at them. The museum wants to digitize these docs, but has limited technical infrastructure. Opportunity: we host their documents on wikisource and provide them additional visibility through an article on Wikipedia, featuring their best manuscripts. * a large museum already has a digitization procedure for the documents, as well as a hosting service. However, the digitized version contains mistakes (errors generated in the process) and the museum simply does not have the human power to provide the corrections of the numerous documents digitized by their services. Our members can take care of this task. Wikisources members know all that very well and much better than I. I just summarize that very quickly for reference. In Europe, at least in some countries, we meet several problems * many scholars have a rather bad image of Wikipedia (because written by amateurs, anonymous members, plagued by vandals etc...) * the other wikimedia projects have rather poor popularity and would benefit from more "light" * journalists are bored and need new information (otherwise, they focus on all the bad stories) * some projects are more difficult to advertise than others, because they are full competitors with other commercial projects of very good quality (eg, wiktionary, wikinews...) Besides, my feeling is that contributors and in particular members from chapters need a project on which they can team. I would like to propose that next year be Wikisource year. And since the planet is very large, if this is done in large part through chapters, that it be an opportunity for some european chapters to work together. I am not necessarily thinking of anything very complicated. Examples of efforts we could make together: * leaflets about wikisource updated and available in a large number of languages; * webbuttons to advertise the project on the web; * each time someone gives a conference about Wikipedia, take the opportunity to spend a couple of minutes of Wikisource as well; distribute leaflets; * summarize our best cases on Wikisource; * develop stories about these best cases. Illustrate. Feature these stories on chapter websites; * develop initiatives on projects for cross project challenges (eg, best article with content improved in at least 3 projects); * chapters may write and distribute a couple of press releases about wikisource; * chapters may propose conferences about wikisource (and speakers available to talk about it); * develop arguments for museums etc... Measures of success are numerous, from improvements of Wikisource (number of docs), number of mentions in the press, partnerships established with museums etc... What do you think ? Ant ___ Wikimediameta-l mailing list Wikimediameta-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediameta-l
