Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread Roger Bamkin
Lodewijk wrote I can imagine that whether Wikipedia is publicly beneficial is not really into question ... actually ... it is. This is not about reality but law. In this case we need to prove that Wikipedia is of public benefit. As Fae notes, WMUK raises funds which it uses in part to fund

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread Richard Symonds
...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Roger Bamkin Sent: 19 September 2011 15:54 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit Lodewijk wrote I can imagine that whether Wikipedia is publicly beneficial

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 September 2011 16:01, Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com wrote: · How quickly we remove advertising from articles, how we spot it, etc etc (to cover private benefits) · How quickly we remove libel from articles, and what processes we have in place to ensure that

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread Richard Symonds
@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit On 19 September 2011 16:01, Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com wrote: · How quickly we remove advertising from articles, how we spot it, etc etc (to cover private benefits

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 September 2011 15:54, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote: Lodewijk wrote I can imagine that whether Wikipedia is publicly beneficial is not really into question ... actually ... it is. This is not about reality but law. In this case we need to prove that Wikipedia is of public

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread Andrew West
On 19 September 2011 16:58, Thomas Dalton innherently beneficial to the public. That's why In Re Shaw isn't applicable to our application in the slightest. That case is about research into a new alphabet and I think most people would agree that the proposed research isn't likely to benefit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread Katie Chan
On 19/09/2011 16:58, Thomas Dalton wrote: I think it is fair to say that increasing knowledge isn't necessarily in the public benefit. I would seriously disagree with that but the point is moot. The Charities Act 2006 is what it is. KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fees are

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread Fae
Hi, Though I'm happy to see the issues discussed (you can imagine that many of these issues have been discussed in the preparation of our application), please remember to fish out those examples of public benefit to add to the wiki page:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of, public benefit

2011-09-19 Thread John Byrne
Please note that though the link Katie just supplied with the CC's guidance on The Advancement of Education for the Public Benefit is relevant to the theoretical issue, we are not actually now applying under that heading but under one of general public utility, so it is the general guidance

[Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-18 Thread Fae
Hi, ** Do you know of examples of WM-UK's charitable public benefit? ** Please go to the collaboration page at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Charity_status_application/help_wanted to raise further good examples for our charity application team to incorporate in our final proposal to the Charity

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-18 Thread Lodewijk
What I find a bit confusing is whether you are looking for Wikipedia's Public Benefit proof, for Wikimedia Foundation or Wikimedia UK. I can imagine that whether Wikipedia is publicly beneficial is not really into question - whether WMUK is, is a whole different game and discussion. In that case,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public benefit

2011-09-18 Thread Fae
Yes, I agree it is confusing; however as WM-UK contributes a significant sum of money from the UK fundraiser (more than half) to WMF and organizes events that promote the use and improvement of Wikimedia projects, that these outcomes have public benefit in the context of our UK charity's mission

[Wikimediauk-l] Call for help: WM-UK Charity application, evidence of public, benefit

2011-09-18 Thread John Byrne
To answer Lodewijk's question it is all the Wikimedia projects, and not WMUK's activities, that we need to show public benefit from (without saying too much, anyone who finds this puzzling might start here http://www.btinternet.com/%7Eakme/shaw.html). There is also a special page set up on