Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-24 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 23:24, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: By virtue of being very active the chapter may be stifling non-chapter chat. You put an image in my mind of non-chapter messages being bounced out of the system by a raging torrent of chapter messages that cannot

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Gordon Joly
On 21/04/12 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: What is the solution; to split the list? Yes, in my opinion. Then I will set up an email filter, and deal this the business of the Charity first. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Gordon Joly
On 21/04/12 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: The line at which the chapter ends and the community begins is very blurred Not in UK law. The Charity has members (and Trustees and staff). The membership have obligations in law. They are responsible, for example, for electing the Trustees and

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Gordon Joly
Another example: I get emails from The Tellers for the AGM. I assume that these will only go to members of the Charity? And those are treated (by me) with a high priority. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Chris Keating
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 21/04/12 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: The line at which the chapter ends and the community begins is very blurred Not in UK law. The Charity has members (and Trustees and staff). The membership have obligations

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
For what its worth, I would prefer that WMUK matters are included to this list rather than have a separate mailing list. In my view the amount of UK specific Wikimedia Email has not yet got to the point where we need to subdivide the list. I'm sure the tellers will only allow members of the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread James Farrar
On the general point, it is my opinion that the Charity is a subset of the UK community; much as with a square and a rectangle, all that is Charity-related is ipso facto UK community-related; but not all that is UK community-related is necessarily Charity-related. There's probably a technical

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread HJ Mitchell
  From: James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2012, 13:35 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec On the general point, it is my opinion that the Charity is a subset of the UK community; much

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 22 April 2012 05:35, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: On the general point, it is my opinion that the Charity is a subset of the UK community; much as with a square and a rectangle, all that is Charity-related is ipso facto UK community-related; but not all that is UK

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 21:19, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to the business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of members of this email list and the set of members of the charity are distinct.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 21 April 2012 21:19, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to the business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of members of this email list and the set of members of the charity are distinct. I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 April 2012 21:41, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 April 2012 21:19, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to the business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of members of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Michael Peel
On 21 Apr 2012, at 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: The Chapter and the UK community are distinct, certainly. And this list does get a lot of use for Chapter business - less so for general community issues. I'm not sure why the two of you are trying to draw this line in the sand, since I don't

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 22:23, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: On 21 Apr 2012, at 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: The Chapter and the UK community are distinct, certainly. And this list does get a lot of use for Chapter business - less so for general community issues. I'm not sure

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 23:01, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 April 2012 22:51, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Hmm. That line in the sand seems critical. I'd hate for it to reach a point whereby to be a UK Wikimedian meant being part of Wikimedia UK. I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 21 April 2012 23:15, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes. But, if someone wants sod all to do with the chapter then that is entirely up to them. And arguably the chapter shouldn't interpose itself in such a way as to stop those people having their own discussions. That

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 23:19, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 April 2012 23:15, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes. But, if someone wants sod all to do with the chapter then that is entirely up to them. And arguably the chapter shouldn't interpose itself