Yes it did get very messy. As I remember it, cards were actually printed
for some volunteers before it had been approved by the board, and then
"recalled". The cost seemed very high, and Wikipediocracy (or was it WR
then) took a keen interest. But I think it remains a useful idea, so
long as: the people getting them and "job titles" used are clear and
agreed, perhaps there is a light agreement of the type Stevie mentioned
to limit WMUK liability, and the cost is reasonable (even if it means
square corners). I think there should be a page on the WMUK site
clarifying the status of those using them, for outsiders to see and
verify who they've been talking to etc.
John
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 16:36:21 +0100 From: Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> To: UK
Wikimedia mailing list <wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re:
[Wikimediauk-l] Tools for identifying Wikimedians at press events, etc
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 15 May 2014 12:29, Michael
Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote: ...
a year. Although I’m aware there were some discussions before then, which I
believe may have been somewhat contentious (I’m not sure, as it was before
my time), I can certainly see that there could be benefits in allowing...
>From someone old enough to have lived through these times, the issues included:
1. The creation of special titles for business cards which could
mislead other institutions about whether the person they were talking
to officially represented the charity, and whether an agreement they
made was a commitment by the charity. For example, job titles like
'Coordinator' or 'Project Manager' ought to be reserved for people
employed or under contract to the Charity so that stuff like
professional liability insurance is in place. I would prefer titles
for volunteers to be avoided, however something with 'volunteer' in
it, like 'volunteer team', would be smarter.
2. When providing business cards for *one person* costs £100
(I think past actual costs have been quite a bit higher), this looks like
an expensive way to invest the donor's money in open
knowledge. In the past Harry printed out his own versions, this may
be a suitable thing to do so that if a volunteer just needs some
cards for one event, they don't end up with a box of 1,000 business
cards, 90% of which will end up in paper recycling. One past solution
has been standard charity business cards with no specific name, that
may still be the most economic and least contentious option. If a
volunteer uses up their first 200 cards, it might be worth getting
their own named set printed. This policy could equally apply to
trustees... always good to set responsive procedures for efficiency.
It is all in the page archives, both from the old version of the Water
cooler and in board minutes talk pages, along with some posts to this
email list, I think. It has also been a topic of discussion on
Wikipediocracy several times - something that you may want to safely
ignore, but considering that apparently the new WMF CEO's parter is
active there right now, many might be following it. I'm sure someone
can track this stuff down if you wished to review it.
Fae
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