Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-22 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19/08/2011 14:53, Roger Bamkin wrote: There is actually a copy of the DNB on ODNB. I would have thought the ODNB may give us it as it is clearly out of copyright? (and it would legally be PD anyway) It might be worth asking if the wiki project hasnt already made a request It might not.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-19 Thread Michael Peel
On 18 Aug 2011, at 23:39, Richard Farmbrough wrote: What about the missing pages from the DNB project? Fairly small scale, the list is at least ready to go for a significant number of volumes, and an individual copy of the DNB is not a priceless artifact. That sounds like an excellent

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-19 Thread Patel, Vinesh
What's DNB? On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:43, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: On 18 Aug 2011, at 23:39, Richard Farmbrough wrote: What about the missing pages from the DNB project? Fairly small scale, the list is at least ready to go for a significant number of volumes,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-19 Thread Michael Peel
the Dictionary of National Biography; see: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:WikiProject_DNB Mike On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:50, Patel, Vinesh wrote: What's DNB? On 19 Aug 2011, at 08:43, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: On 18 Aug 2011, at 23:39, Richard

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-19 Thread Roger Bamkin
There is actually a copy of the DNB on ODNB. I would have thought the ODNB may give us it as it is clearly out of copyright? (and it would legally be PD anyway) It might be worth asking if the wiki project hasnt already made a request On 19 August 2011 08:55, Michael Peel

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19/08/2011 08:43, Michael Peel wrote: On 18 Aug 2011, at 23:39, Richard Farmbrough wrote: What about the missing pages from the DNB project? Fairly small scale, the list is at least ready to go for a significant number of volumes, and an individual copy of the DNB is not a priceless

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-19 Thread Andrew Gray
On 19 August 2011 17:59, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hang on - much as I love the DNB, there is huge amount to know before saying spending money on it would be a good use. There are literally hundreds of Google Books keys for DNB volumes, some of which don't work

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-18 Thread Richard Farmbrough
What about the missing pages from the DNB project? Fairly small scale, the list is at least ready to go for a significant number of volumes, and an individual copy of the DNB is not a priceless artifact. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Keating
We don't have the resources to do a Google and digitise all of a large institution's archive - even if my wildest fantasies about our future fundraising turn out to be true. Neverthless I'd say there is a good case that we should support digitisation. Obviously creating more open cultural content

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 17/08/2011 04:04, Fae wrote: snip I welcome any feedback on how well these projects fulfil our mission and how often our funds ought to be invested in these projects compared to other projects which may have greater impact for new user outreach or wider e-volunteer engagement. Well, if

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Burt
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: snip Further, experience at Wikisource suggests that proofreading is the bottleneck, rather than scanning. /snip Other items in this interesting discussion notwithstanding, does anyone know the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread Sebastian Moleski
Hi WMUK folks, I can maybe add a little useful information here. WMDE has had a special budget for German Wikisource since 2007. It's been (to my knowledge) exclusively used for digitization of individual documents. The budget has not been used up in any year since it was creatd. Michail

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 17/08/2011 12:11, Harry Burt wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com mailto:charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: snip Further, experience at Wikisource suggests that proofreading is the bottleneck, rather than scanning.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread geni
On 17 August 2011 12:01, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: So I would be in favour of a pilot, to see how it all goes. Criteria: on a medium scale; in a topic area that is rather clearly UK-centric, and of fairly general interest; and something that could be pointed to as

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread Roger Bamkin
My view would be only to show people how. e.g. I felt it was novel that we were digitising someones stuff they had left in their will to be published. However once we have proved it can be done and it is easy then we should leave it to volunteers. Our budget does not compare to Google's. On 17

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Holden
I'm not sure the question at this point is whether it's the absolute best use of WMUK funds. It is _a_ use of those funds, which is what has been lacking up to now so far as I've noticed. In any case the third/fourth bullet points sound like pretty ideal uses of funds to me. I don't think