Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Pictures of politicians

2011-02-04 Thread Andrew Gray
On 4 February 2011 11:45, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do we have a programme to get photos of every MP? Standard templates,
 etc? I need to ask mine, [[Stella Creasy]], for one ...

I think someone mooted a letter-writing campaign a while back, but I
don't know if anything ever got off the ground.

There is probably some parliamentary system for standard portraits;
maybe we could see if they could be convinced to release the end
product?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Advice on approaching schools and churches about photography for Commons

2011-02-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 4 February 2011 11:13, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Care should be taken, however, not to give the school/church/etc. the
 impression that you are representing the chapter or acting in any kind
 of official capacity (unless the chapter does actually give you some
 kind of official position or ask you to represent it).

 On the other side of the planet, for WM Hong Kong we're fine with any
 paid-up member to go out in the name of us unless we told them not to. I
 think it's overly conservative to preemptively prevent a member of your
 organisation to go out and do things as a member of Wikimedia UK...

The problem is that we could be legally responsible for what someone
does while representing us. They can say that they are a member,
that's a simple fact, but we need to maintain some degree of control
over what is done in our name. (The same is probably true in HK - you
should be careful.)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Helping with museum signs

2011-02-04 Thread Tom Morris
I told a mate of mine, Terence Eden, a mobile technologist who writes
frequently on his blog about how to do QR codes properly, about this
thread.

He's put up a post on his blog with some advice that could help
Wikimedia do QR codes properly.

http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=3586

His previous entries on how companies do QR codes wrong are worth
reading through:

http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/tag/qr-codes/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 - Europe?

2011-02-04 Thread effe iets anders
Hello all,

I know there has been some discussion about a Wiki Loves Monuments in
the UK, but I have heard little back after that. I think there is
definitely a lot of potential in the UK for setting up a project like
this, and hope that it would be possible to find the volunteers to run
this in the coming time.

Who can take the lead on this in the UK?

Please see 
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/01.html
for my email and offer to join a brainstorm session if there would be
need/advantage for that. If that would help, I am more than happy to
join you guys somewhere reachable in a conversation on how to make
this happen. I got the suggestion the coming up London Meetup might be
helpful. Are there many interested people from outside London? Would
Wikimedia UK be able and willing to set up a meeting there and to
reimburse for example some travel costs for those outside London to
join the meeting? Just shooting some suggestions here, I'm sure you
can come up with better :)

Do remind please that to make this work, you really have to give this
a start in February, or it will be very hard to have the lists and
systems in place in time.

I look forward to your positive and constructive replies!

Lodewijk Gelauff

2010/12/15 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
 Forwarding with permission of the sender. I'm very eager to see the UK and
 Ireland participate in this if possible, but from my experience of running
 Britain Loves Wikipedia I'm very aware that this needs a team of people
 running it rather than just one person. So: is anyone interested in
 leading/helping with this project?

 Thanks,
 Mike
 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
 Date: 14 December 2010 20:20:15 GMT
 To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)
 interna...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 - Europe?
 Reply-To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination \(closed
 subscription\) interna...@lists.wikimedia.org

 Summary of this email (sorry for long text): We did Wiki Loves Monuments
 (WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like to do Wiki Loves Monuments
 again in 2011, but now in Europe. This is only possible when many chapters
 participate, therefore this e-mail. To be clear: this event will only happen
 on a European level if there is sufficient chapter participation to combine
 efforts. Please feel free to forward to whomever you find appropriate.
 You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010 in the
 Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo scavenger hunt with 12.500
 submissions and over 250 participants[0]. We recently completed a post
 mortem of this event with a more extensive description and analysis [1].
 However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands which can be
 photographed, so we are considering another run for next year - but then in
 a European context. Below we will explain a bit how we got where we are,
 what we have in mind, and what you could expect.
 So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have the windmill
 project. One of the main goals was to get an article with an image for every
 windmill in the Netherlands. Lists were created of windmills per province
 and statistics were made on a regular basis to track progress. This approach
 worked very well and made it possible to tackle a big problem; All the
 windmills have an article now.
 Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to get a dataset
 of all Rijksmonumenten (Dutch national monuments - 60.000
 buildings/objects with some historical or cultural relevance) from the
 Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed (Dutch national heritage
 organisation, RCE). This marked the birth of the Rijksmonumenten project.
 The project uses the lessons learned in the windmill project. The data from
 the RCE was converted into lists by location and put on the Dutch Wikipedia.
 The community started improving the lists by adding missing information or
 adding photo's.
 In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2] : A photo
 scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite successful (5.400
 photos), but much more work intensive because you need to keep contacts with
 all the museums and usually museums are further away from people's homes
 than the nearest monuments.
 For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo competition. The
 Rijksmonumenten project was running very well so we decided to organize
 Wiki Loves Monuments to give this Wikipedia project a boost.
 So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me give you an idea
 of what we are thinking of, changes are open for debate of course. Trying to
 incorporate the main lessons from last year in the Netherlands into a
 European model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments is
 organized on a national level primarily, but with cooperations, shared
 resources and international prizes 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Helping with museum signs

2011-02-04 Thread Roger Bamkin
Tom,   * Update at Derby*

Terence's blog looks very useful.
If anyone is in travelling distance of Derby main museum then there are now
some demo QR codes in their geology and natural history section. Comments
welcomed. Bravely they agreed to just do it. Help from Fae and JamesB
enabled us to laminate some codes and get them mounted. Assuming we clear
out teething problems then wikipedians can write an article on (say) a
Joseph Wright Painting and have it available on Wikipedia but they can also
have that article available to the museums customers. This will supplement
the existing labels.

The demo session should allow the museum to find out what size works and
whether low-light or being behing glass hinders readability. Anyone got real
experience of minimum size to allow 99% of phones to be able to scan it?

Wikipedia issues so far

   - We could do with a tool that allows a lot of Wikipedia articles to be
   droppin and it then creates nice A4 pages of QRCodes that are annotated with
   the url and the articles title. It is possible to use scissors and a
   laminator for a dozen labels but museums will need 100s.
   - Language is an issue. Its never occured to me, but its odd that I log
   on to wikipedia using the en: main page. I deally I should just log in to
   wikipedia.org and my computer tells the site that I normally use English
   to view articles.
   - Most museum staff are not equipped with smart phones to demonstrate how
   this works to visitors


This looks like it will be a feature of our collaboration with Derby
Museums. Do sign up if you have helped or hope to attend in April.

Oh and there are pictures on Flickr  I'll move them to commons

cheers
Victuallers

On 4 February 2011 12:36, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:

 I told a mate of mine, Terence Eden, a mobile technologist who writes
 frequently on his blog about how to do QR codes properly, about this
 thread.

 He's put up a post on his blog with some advice that could help
 Wikimedia do QR codes properly.

 http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=3586

 His previous entries on how companies do QR codes wrong are worth
 reading through:

 http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/tag/qr-codes/

 --
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 http://tommorris.org/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Helping with museum signs

2011-02-04 Thread Fae
I'm thoroughly impressed that we went from my vague mention of QR
codes to a live public exhibition within 3 days. Victuallers, you
deserve a great big Making things happen barn star.

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Helping with museum signs

2011-02-04 Thread Liam Wyatt
+1! 
Got any pictures of the installation processes or labels in-situ? This deserves 
a mention in the Signpost and if you could also add it to the this month in 
GLAM report for Feb that's being compiled here 
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter

Agreed with Roger too, if we could generate labels that not only show the 
QRcode but also the article title, and maybe something like read about me on 
Wikipedia... to give some context. Roger, would you mind giving a report of 
what you've achieved to the cultural-partners mailing list and requesting 
assistance to bring this to v.2?

-Liam 

Wittylama.com/blog
Peace, love  metadata

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 I'm thoroughly impressed that we went from my vague mention of QR
 codes to a live public exhibition within 3 days. Victuallers, you
 deserve a great big Making things happen barn star.
 
 Cheers,
 Fæ
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Helping with museum signs

2011-02-04 Thread Roger Bamkin
Hi Liam, pleased to see that others agree on you being a fine fellow.
Congratulations.

There are some pics in this category which show the cutting out, the
mounting, some example locations of the codes and a lady using her phone to
access stuff about geology. I'm going to be busy this weekend on other wiki
stuff - are there any budding journalists reading this? I can write some
stuff but I may not have time to polish it.

Getting to v.2 sounds fun

cheers
Roger

On 5 February 2011 23:32, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1!
 Got any pictures of the installation processes or labels in-situ? This
 deserves a mention in the Signpost and if you could also add it to the this
 month in GLAM report for Feb that's being compiled here
 http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter

 Agreed with Roger too, if we could generate labels that not only show the
 QRcode but also the article title, and maybe something like read about me
 on Wikipedia... to give some context. Roger, would you mind giving a report
 of what you've achieved to the cultural-partners mailing list and requesting
 assistance to bring this to v.2?

 -Liam

 Wittylama.com/blog
 Peace, love  metadata

 On 05/02/2011, at 10:06, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm thoroughly impressed that we went from my vague mention of QR
  codes to a live public exhibition within 3 days. Victuallers, you
  deserve a great big Making things happen barn star.
 
  Cheers,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Helping with museum signs

2011-02-04 Thread Roger Bamkin
Opps the pictures are in [
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Quick_Response_Codes here]
although they are mixed up with other QR stuff...

Victuallers

On 5 February 2011 23:32, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1!
 Got any pictures of the installation processes or labels in-situ? This
 deserves a mention in the Signpost and if you could also add it to the this
 month in GLAM report for Feb that's being compiled here
 http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter

 Agreed with Roger too, if we could generate labels that not only show the
 QRcode but also the article title, and maybe something like read about me
 on Wikipedia... to give some context. Roger, would you mind giving a report
 of what you've achieved to the cultural-partners mailing list and requesting
 assistance to bring this to v.2?

 -Liam

 Wittylama.com/blog
 Peace, love  metadata

 On 05/02/2011, at 10:06, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm thoroughly impressed that we went from my vague mention of QR
  codes to a live public exhibition within 3 days. Victuallers, you
  deserve a great big Making things happen barn star.
 
  Cheers,
  Fæ
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Helping with museum signs

2011-02-04 Thread Alex Stinson
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:57 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 4 February 2011 12:36, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
  I told a mate of mine, Terence Eden, a mobile technologist who writes
  frequently on his blog about how to do QR codes properly, about this
  thread.
 
  He's put up a post on his blog with some advice that could help
  Wikimedia do QR codes properly.
 
  http://shkspr.mobi/blog/?p=3586

 Well 1 and 4 are doable

 5 could be done but not in a very user friendly manner (have each QR
 code coming in by a unique redirect)


Maybe propose a QR space that displays the mobile friendly list of the
interwiki links of the corresponding page? That would be easy to count use,
and you could also solve 2 (sortof). You could even shorten articles names
by using some sort of Serial number only in that space.

Alex
(not a developer, so don't know if that makes sense).
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